I understand. I was raised Baptist, and I saw both the good and the hypocrisy in it, the same as in all churches. My experience was that the good outweighed the bad; but not everyone has the same experience as me. I learned there's no perfect church except that Spiritual Church that believers all belong to.
I would just like to exit tonight with a word of encouragement for all true Believers.....
Never give up. The fields are white for harvest, in all the world. We are laborers under His command, and should always keep striving to spread the Word; and when the cross gets hard to bear, we have His promise that He is always with us, even to the end.
Born-again Christians-------what are you doing tonight? I've been pondering on the word "resist" in the Bible. Resist the devil (and he will flee from you.) Resist temptation (from human sources as well as the devil's directly, by fighting it/them?) Resist via prayer or via words? or both? That word has a meaning that can be applied two different ways, don't you think?
Tonight I'm using it as ....gotta get some sleep and not even think about it til later! ha
Just wondering if anyone else has ever dwelt on the definition and usage of "resist". ?
Good night for now. Might seem strange for me to invoke a discussion as I'm getting ready to turn in for the night, but I'm a procrastinator. (Is that a sin?) Talk to ya later hopefully. † ♥
Hi Brenda, Sometimes resist seems to be simply standing firm and not being pushed. Other times I have believed it to not be distracted from my objective. Depends on the situation I think. God Bless, Holly PS Tonight I am dealing with paperwork
Resisting temptation is key. Our ability to resist temptation is given POWER through Christ in us. This, I believe is an important aspect of our relationship with Him. I believe, Twenty One Days was speaking to this in regard to what we are striving towards. It is to be remade in God's image of us. To understand His perspective of who we are, we can better apply it to our lives. If our goal is to be more like Jesus, then we need to have the right perspective of what that means. In truth it will not be revealed to us, but through us to others. Resisting temptation is one aspect of this remaking. That it is challenging is our incentive to treat each other with love, compassion, understanding and forgiveness. Especially ourselves.
No need to be sorry. Actually, you ask a good question, and one that I was discussing with a Christian brother this morning. I believe that God has a purpose and a plan for every person. When we choose to put our lives in His hands, we must be ready to be re-made. For example, in my own life I have lived out many of the Scriptures regarding sacrifice. I didn't go looking for it, no one would. But in the sacrifices I have seen God's hand and the love of Jesus Christ. There is Scripture that speaks of separation of family, even within our own household. Is that a show stopper for you? Job? House? Money? I believe like with Abraham, God wants us to be happy. He must be first in our hearts, minds and souls. Working through what that means in our lives is challenging.
We have all heard the saying, "This ain't no dress rehearsal." I disagree. I believe that what we do hear in this life, and on this planet determines how we live eternally. The Scriptures do not speak of eternal death, they speak of eternal life. What I believe is determined here is what kind of eternal life we will have. Does that make sense?
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He's waiting for the rest of his children to help with the work and quit denying him. Those are the lives that are suppose to be helped by atheists but they've lost their way and their lack of faith is leaving some uncared for.
You decide. Besides, I asked someone else the question, and since you want to play games instead, it might be better if you just went back under your rock and left the adults to discuss. There's a good lad.
Let me put it this way. I watched the movie, The Passion of Christ, and realized that's it. 1 Corinthians 2, "For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.
I have some friends in Tulsa, and they lost their daughter to cancer. They had a celebration of life instead of a funeral. One thousand people showed up. A testimony of her life of 28 years was her absolute faith during her battle. At one point in time as they were going to do chemo-therapy on her, they shared with her that it would cause her to lose her hair. She said, I will not lose my hair to this cancer, I will lose my hair on my own terms. She had her mom come in and cut her hair. She then donated it to locks for life. Those kind of testimonies and the lives that were changed in her family and outside of her family was staggering. Why does God let these things happen. Changed lives. To bring people closer to him.
Was this sacrifice, not one that she sought, worthwhile? I believe she would say, yes. How much those that we make, short of that? It is the picture of Jesus.
I didn't say it was, but, she could have left in the trash can rather than give it to a charity who would make a wig for a child who wanted one. You might try thinking in different terms instead of always thinking the Christians want your baby!
Makes sense. The children of the world are so grateful your god is watching over them while they search rubbish tips for a morsel to keep them alive. Oh that's right, your god only looks after the "christian children", and the children's parents must all be sinners! What a disgusting belief this is!
I think Paper Wolf is right. It was a sacrifice. The girl took a tragic circumstance and, instead of wallowing in self-pity, used it for something good. She resisted the devil's temptation. It is the good way; the way of Christ.
Making the best of a bad situation does not require an irrational belief to do so. Nor does it make it a sacrifice.
Unless you are saying that God killed the girl as a sacrifice?
My wife did the same thing when she was faced with chemo. And she did not believe any of the garbage you believe - you know - hating gays and being scared of women preachers for going against the Word.
So - prey tell - how was this a "sacrifice" if she knew she was going to lose it anyway?
Your wife sacrificed; she sounds like a wonderful person! She was doing what Jesus would've done. Whether she actually gave God the glory for it or not is the question that tells what fruit grew from it. The Bible talks about how humans love each other. And it says God cares for His children much moreso than that, even, if I'm not mistaken. I should look up that Scripture. I do know the Word says faith without works (and therefore works without faith) is useless in the finality of it.
Brenda, I believe the flying spaghetti monster and the sky tooth fairy dance hand in hand in the aboriginal' dreamtime and when the aborigines sensed it they were afraid because they knew the Knowless Kult of the Kuckoo's time was coming
The real truth is that Mark knows more about religion and science than most. He is also a happy successful non believer. I must really stick in your throats that you have been unable to answer one of his questions in over a year and have to resort to the sort of crud that can only be responded to in kind. Non believers are simply all the people in the world that can think. You lot have had your brain taken captive by the neurotic ramblings of a few retold old stories from a bunch of sick men!
But that is where you are wrong. I have been thinking a lot about death the last few days. Like a seed, the outer shell must die before the inner seed can actually live. When you look at me, you do not see the real me. You only see my outewr shell which will eventually die away to make way for the real me which is inside.
So self denial is a bad thing to you? It isn't hate that causes one to give of their own self. Truthfully, as much as I see many talk so much about hate and love and have things backwards, I wonder if anyone knows what love really is.
If I sacrifice myself to help others, do I hate myself? If I sacrifice buying myself a new bass guitar to buy something for my son, do I do it out of hate for myself?
"You can insinuate all you like, it is meaningless as usual. Why don't you answer the question? Jesus got your tongue? lol"
Something is wrong with this thread so if this is meant for me then could you tell me what I'm insinuating? If I don't agree with the hate that you spew everyday I must be a Christian? Nah, I'm just a guy who likes to show intolerance works both ways, keep trying honey, you are way off.
When I was in prison I read a daily prayer book - in it there was a quote so I dont know if it was directly from the Bible or an interpretaion - but it said, "They who shout loudest about the crimes of others do so to conceal there own crimes", this reading has stuck with me through many years, especially here in Ireland as many politicians have been shown to be corrupt and criminal, many church leaders have been exposed as criminals and conspirators and so forth, and yet these are the very people who would condemn others and fill tabloid headlines with their hypocracy, this is an honest contribution and I would be interested to know if the initial verse was an interpretation or an actual quote from the Bible
This is well known in Psychological circles as a rule of thumb. The big squawkers are candidates for this sort of behaviour. It is because what they cannot accept about themselves they project on others, so anyone with a case against them is a target for this type of loon to vent.
I honestly don't know if that direct concept is in the Bible or not.
There are of course some similar verses....
But it's not true in every circumstance that the one who shouts loudest about crime is doing so to conceal his own crime!
I think you're very jaded or paranoid about the leaders of your country, irish, because you've mentioned it time after time.
I'm pretty disappointed in the leaders of my country too. I shout pretty loudly about them! I also loudly proclaim against things like abortion and gay marriage being made into law. Yet I'm not concealing a personal crime.
You're shouting pretty loudly about your country's leaders too! Are YOU concealing a crime of your own?
We have the right to be upset about corruption and fraud and hypocrisy. But it's not fair to label EVERYONE who speaks out boldly about something, a fraud or hypocrite.
I popped in looking forward to a continued conversation about christian matters. What I saw was the usual crew tearing up something they don't even believe in. May God bless each and every one of you immensely, Holly
Whether there's always religion or not, the seesaw, yes, stops eventually; but not in the middle. Nope, it tips. We all know which way it tips. You know the score, earnest; you were once there, on this side. Which side you gonna be on, earnest??
Like I said. It matters not. Remove god, remove his used to be buddy. The see saw stops. your made up god needs a made up fallen angel. Your belief system requires both. Take either one away creates the same result. The end of the back and forth, or in this case up and down. We are back to dealing with logic, and the human condition.
Absolutely. The human condition is encapsulated in several fields including the metaphysical. Asking ourselves our purpose in life is part of the human condition as is sexual orientations, for example.
Perhaps, you misunderstood. Sexual orientations was merely an example of that which comprises the human condition. Your belief in god is also another part of the human condition. They are merely examples to help you understand the concept better.
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