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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    I understand.
    I was raised Baptist, and I saw both the good and the hypocrisy in it, the same as in all churches.  My experience was that the good outweighed the bad;  but not everyone has the same experience as me.  I learned there's no perfect church except that Spiritual Church that believers all belong to.

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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    I would just like to exit tonight with a word of encouragement for all true Believers.....

    Never give up.
    The fields are white for harvest, in all the world.
    We are laborers under His command, and should always keep striving to spread the Word;  and when the cross gets hard to bear, we have His promise that He is always with us, even to the end.

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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    Faith multiplies with use.

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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    Born-again Christians-------what are you doing tonight?
    I've been pondering on the word "resist" in the Bible.
    Resist the devil (and he will flee from you.)
    Resist temptation (from human sources as well as the devil's directly, by fighting it/them?)
    Resist via prayer or via words? or both?
    That word has a meaning that can be applied two different ways, don't you think?

    Tonight I'm using it as ....gotta get some sleep and not even think about it til later!  ha

    Just wondering if anyone else has ever dwelt on the definition and usage of "resist".
    ?


    Good night for now.  Might seem strange for me to invoke a discussion as I'm getting ready to turn in for the night, but I'm a procrastinator.  (Is that a sin?)   
    Talk to ya later hopefully.
    † ♥

  5. h.a.borcich profile image60
    h.a.borcichposted 11 years ago

    Hi Brenda,
      Sometimes resist seems to be simply standing firm and not being pushed. Other times I have believed it to not be distracted from my objective. Depends on the situation I think.
      God Bless, Holly
    PS Tonight I am dealing with paperwork sad

  6. Flightkeeper profile image68
    Flightkeeperposted 11 years ago

    For me resist is about resisting temptation. Resist the temptation to not do things because I don't like doing them smile

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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    Thanks you two.

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    Paper Wolfposted 11 years ago

    Resisting temptation is key. Our ability to resist temptation is given POWER through Christ in us. This, I believe is an important aspect of our relationship with Him. I believe, Twenty One Days was speaking to this in regard to what we are striving towards. It is to be remade in God's image of us. To understand His perspective of who we are, we can better apply it to our lives. If our goal is to be more like Jesus, then we need to have the right perspective of what that means. In truth it will not be revealed to us, but through us to others. Resisting temptation is one aspect of this remaking. That it is challenging is our incentive to treat each other with love, compassion, understanding and forgiveness. Especially ourselves.

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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    To you, does it mean being a martyr, literally and/or spiritually?

    Or a warrior, literally or spiritually?


    Sorry, I'm probably off on a different tangent.  Just what's on my mind in relation to resistance.

  10. Paper Wolf profile image62
    Paper Wolfposted 11 years ago

    No need to be sorry. Actually, you ask a good question, and one that I was discussing with a Christian brother this morning. I believe that God has a purpose and a plan for every person. When we choose to put our lives in His hands, we must be ready to be re-made. For example, in my own life I have lived out many of the Scriptures regarding sacrifice. I didn't go looking for it, no one would. But in the sacrifices I have seen God's hand and the love of Jesus Christ. There is Scripture that speaks of separation of family, even within our own household. Is that a show stopper for you? Job? House? Money? I believe like with Abraham, God wants us to be happy. He must be first in our hearts, minds and souls. Working through what that means in our lives is challenging.

    We have all heard the saying, "This ain't no dress rehearsal." I disagree. I believe that what we do hear in this life, and on this planet determines how we live eternally. The Scriptures do not speak of eternal death, they speak of eternal life. What I believe is determined here is what kind of eternal life we will have. Does that make sense?

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      (Q)posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      So, your gods purpose and plan is to have tens of thousands of children starve to death each day?

      For what purpose and plan, pray tell?

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        sneakorocksolidposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        He's waiting for the rest of his children to help with the work and quit denying him. Those are the lives that are suppose to be helped by atheists but they've lost their way and their lack of faith is leaving some uncared for.sad

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          (Q)posted 11 years agoin reply to this

          In other words, you had to make up an incredibly lame response that contradicts his post and your beliefs. Got it.

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            sneakorocksolidposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            We're all here for a purpose. You're not doing your fair share. If you're lazy and hateful it's ok. You don't know those children anyway.

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              (Q)posted 11 years agoin reply to this

              So, tell us all, what is your gods purpose for those children that you couldn't care less about?

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                sneakorocksolidposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                We do what we can we need more help! What is the name of your Charitable atheist organization? Do you think they would help?

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                  (Q)posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  You didn't answer the question and I doubt you ever will.

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                    sneakorocksolidposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                    I have answered and as usual you reject my answer and say I haven't answered. This is why I can become sarcastic because this is no where near an exchange of ideas. It's called lobing insult grenades.smile

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                  Flightkeeperposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  It's probably called the Knowless Kult of Kharity. So annoying when they use K for pratically every word. lol

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                    sneakorocksolidposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                    Flightkeeper you're pure wisdom!big_smile

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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    The Scriptures speak of eternal punishment too.

    The "separation of family" means a spiritual separation and a separation and/or non-participation/non-condoning of certain behaviors and beliefs.   Only a literal separation if needed.\

    ..It makes sense if you mean there's a choice between heaven and hell (or the lake of fire).

    It doesn't make sense to me if you mean there's a ladder of rewards in heaven...
    ?

    1. Paper Wolf profile image62
      Paper Wolfposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      No ladders.

      Eternal life with God, or eternal life separated from Him.

      Whatever we can conjure of what those two circumstances means is probably minuscule to what the actual experience will be.

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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    What about your life?
    Your literal life.

    Are you willing to be a "John the Baptist" or "like Jesus"?
    Or do you cling to life and compromise something, anything, for dear life?

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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    or even your personal reputation?

    Do you compromise your standards for that?


    I'm not actually asking you to divulge personal information;   just a general question about your view of how a Christian should sacrifice and/or resist wickedness.

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    Paper Wolfposted 11 years ago

    Let me put it this way. I watched the movie, The Passion of Christ, and realized that's it. 1 Corinthians 2, "For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

    I have some friends in Tulsa, and they lost their daughter to cancer. They had a celebration of life instead of a funeral. One thousand people showed up. A testimony of her life of 28 years was her absolute faith during her battle. At one point in time as they were going to do chemo-therapy on her, they shared with her that it would cause her to lose her hair. She said, I will not lose my hair to this cancer, I will lose my hair on my own terms. She had her mom come in and cut her hair. She then donated it to locks for life. Those kind of testimonies and the lives that were changed in her family and outside of her family was staggering. Why does God let these things happen. Changed lives. To bring people closer to him.

    Was this sacrifice, not one that she sought, worthwhile? I believe she would say, yes. How much those that we make, short of that? It is the picture of Jesus.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Wonderful - I nearly puked.

      Refuse medical treatment, Christians!!

      I agree. Science is the work of the devil designed to stop the Work Of the Lord. Do not take medical treatment.

      Do not let this girl's death for Jesus ------ persecution for loving Jesus actually......... Do not let this get in the  way of you living FOREVER in the Lord's Loving Embrace.

      Remember - refuse medical treatment and live for the Lord. Picture Jesus. Would Jesus have taken medical treatment? I think not................. wink

      In the Name of KKK.

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        A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        I'm thinking she received the treatment but cut her hair before losing it to the radiation.

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          Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Oh - that kind of ruins the story a bit. She took the chemo and cut off her hair because it was going to fall out anyways?

          How is that a sacrifice?

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            A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I didn't say it was, but, she could have left in the trash can rather than give it to a charity who would make a wig for a child who wanted one. You might try thinking in different terms instead of always thinking the Christians want your baby!

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              Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

              Oh. Excuse me.



              My mistake Tex - I though it was a sacrifice. Don't know where I got that idea. wink

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                A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                Didn't get it from me, didja?

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                  Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  No sweetie - I got it from the guy I was speaking to. Then you butted in. :LOL:

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                    A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                    Yeah I did, I guess you want an apology?

                    Ok, I am mightily sorry for having offended thee, please find it in your blessed heart to forgive me!
                    Ameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen

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            Valerie Fposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Not everyone who takes chemo loses their hair, either.

      2. Paper Wolf profile image62
        Paper Wolfposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        No, really. We love ya.

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      (Q)posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      So, your god created cancer to bring people closer to him? Makes sense. He's bringing people closer to him by the millions, despite the evil scientists who are working against his creation.

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        sneakorocksolidposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Q, it's bath time.big_smile

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          (Q)posted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Better hurry, Springer might be on.

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        Paper Wolfposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Q: Not what I said. Your interpretation. And, of course you are welcomed to it. Twisting my words and having no real interest in the topic is also your  choice. Pointless, but a choice. Love ya.

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          (Q)posted 11 years agoin reply to this

          These are your words:



          So, what's the scoop with your god's purpose and plan for the thousands who die each day from starvation?

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            sneakorocksolidposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I already answered that question! Try another one!big_smile

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    earnestshubposted 11 years ago

    Makes sense. The children of the world are so grateful your god is watching over them while they search rubbish tips for a morsel to keep them alive. Oh that's right, your god only looks after the "christian children", and the children's parents must all be sinners!
    What a disgusting belief this is!

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      Flightkeeperposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Not more disgusting than aboriginal religions that kept them backward.

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        Brenda Durhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        I agree.
        Hi Flightkeeper!

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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    So very nice of you two to join us.
    God Loves you more than you know; or at least more than you'll admit.

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      Paper Wolfposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Yes.

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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    I was referring to Mark and earnest.

    Hadn't seen you pop in yet, A Texan.  Hello!

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      A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Howdy!

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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    I think Paper Wolf is right.
    It was a sacrifice.
    The girl took a tragic circumstance and, instead of wallowing in self-pity, used it for something good.  She resisted the devil's temptation. It is the good way; the way of Christ.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I suggest a decent dictionary sweetie pie.

      Making the best of a bad situation does not require an irrational belief to do so. Nor does it make it a sacrifice.

      Unless you are saying that God killed the girl as a sacrifice?

      My wife did the same thing when she was faced with chemo. And she did not believe any of the garbage you believe - you know - hating gays and being scared of women preachers for going against the Word. wink

      So - prey tell - how was this a "sacrifice" if she knew she was going to lose it anyway?

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        Brenda Durhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Your wife sacrificed; she sounds like a wonderful person!
        She was doing what Jesus would've done.
        Whether she actually gave God the glory for it or not is the question that tells what fruit grew from it.
        The Bible talks about how humans love each other.
        And it says God cares for His children much moreso than that, even, if I'm not mistaken.  I should look up that Scripture.
        I do know the Word says faith without works (and therefore works without faith) is useless in the finality of it.

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          Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          How inkredibly condescending.

          I see you avoided the kwestion though.

          Sleep tight Brenda. I know you are going against the Word and that brings consequences.

          So do you. wink

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            SirDentposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            How condescending you are MR. Knowles.

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            Brenda Durhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Ah, Mark, I intend to go against YOUR word, yes.
            The first "sermon" is already dedicated to you, have you heard?

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    Flightkeeperposted 11 years ago

    Hey Brenda!

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    Flightkeeperposted 11 years ago

    What's KKK, the Knowless Kult of Kuckoo?

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      Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Kristians Kausing Konflikt.... wink

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        A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Kooooooooool

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        Paper Wolfposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        So much hate in such a lil clown. We love ya.

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          Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Prove it. wink

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            Paper Wolfposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Disprove it.

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              Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

              I just did. wink

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          Flightkeeperposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Yes, it is sad that the funny clown is being used as an avatar for the Knowless Kult, but we must accede to the great designer of the Kult.

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    Flightkeeperposted 11 years ago

    We all know it as the Knowless Kult of Kuckoo. It's a weird interpretation of Christianity. But hey whatever floats your boat.

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      earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      No we do not all know it as any such thing.You handle the truth rather loosely don't you?

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        Flightkeeperposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        I would say I learned from you guys. wink

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          earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          And I would say, where? smile I have never seen any non-believers speak other than the truth on here, and I have been on this forum over a year.Show me!

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            sneakorocksolidposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            The KKK, please.

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          Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          I have certainly learned from you guys. And I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

          Really. Genuine gratitude. I am a better person from watching how you guys behave.

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            Paper Wolfposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Oh that we could say the same from watching you. Love ya!

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              earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this

              Nah! You don't learn, you regurgitate! lol

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                A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                This coming from Knowles Killer Klones!

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                  earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  I don't recall pulling your chain. smile

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                    A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                    You don't have to, I think for myself, its fun you should try it!

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              Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

              Is that the sort of love I think it is..... oh...... 

              Um.. No thanks - all the same. I am sure you understand. wink

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      Brenda Durhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It's kinfolk of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.\
      wink

      1. Flightkeeper profile image68
        Flightkeeperposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Brenda, I believe the flying spaghetti monster and the sky tooth fairy dance hand in hand in the aboriginal' dreamtime and when the aborigines sensed it they were afraid because they knew the Knowless Kult of the Kuckoo's time was coming lol lol

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          Brenda Durhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          teehee! big_smile

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    Flightkeeperposted 11 years ago

    Oh I learn every day from you Knowless Kultists of Kuckoo. Especially spelling lol lol

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    A Texanposted 11 years ago

    I thought KKK was for

    Knowles Killer Klowns

    Knowles Knows Knot

    Konstantly Konstipated Knowles

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    earnestshubposted 11 years ago

    Show me. You make an accusation that non-believers tell lies. Show me!

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      Flightkeeperposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      How can I show you a religion? lol lol lol

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      A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I hear a woman screaming

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        (Q)posted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Seek professional help for the voices in your head.

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          A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          There's another one

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            (Q)posted 11 years agoin reply to this
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              A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

              Keep screaming lady, I'll send help!

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                (Q)posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                Maybe that goofy hat is on too tight?

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                  A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Better than having my panties in a wad, ain't it Ma'am?

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                    (Q)posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                    Hardly, do you actually wear that thing in public?

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              Flightkeeperposted 11 years agoin reply to this

              Now why am I not surprised that Q knows about those Kuckoo voices? lol lol

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                (Q)posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                With so many believers claiming to hear voices in their heads, wouldn't you expect someone to do the research for them?

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            Brenda Durhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            They keep multiplying.
            Resist the devils! haha

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        earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        You can get help for that! smile

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          A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Yes,yes, I'll send help right away, high pitched screams from women bother me!

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      sneakorocksolidposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Well I don't know any klan members and I go to church every Sunday and I home teach with other members.

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    earnestshubposted 11 years ago

    The real truth is that Mark knows more about religion and science than most. He is also a happy successful non believer.
    I must really stick in your throats that you have been unable to answer one of his questions in over a year and have to resort to the sort of crud that can only be responded to in kind.
    Non believers are simply all the people in the world that can think. You lot have had your brain taken captive by the neurotic ramblings of a few retold old stories from a bunch of sick men! lol lol lol

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      sneakorocksolidposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Well I'll answer any question he has if he makes sense, If we're exchanging insults I not going to let him bait me, sorry.smile

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      SirDentposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I don't doubt this a bit myself. Mark is very knowledgable about many things pertaining to religion and science alike. That being said, does he know God? Does he know Jesus personally?

      No matter how much knowledge you get, you will have nothing compared to knowing Jesus.

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        earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Give him some space SirDent! The guy has been dead 2000 years already! smile

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          SirDentposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          But that is where you are wrong. I have been thinking a lot about death the last few days. Like a seed, the outer shell must die before the inner seed can actually live. When you look at me, you do not see the real me. You only see my outewr shell which will eventually die away to make way for the real me which is inside.

          Jesus shed His outer shell amd is alive forever.

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            Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            That is so sad. You are you and should never be ashamed.

            This is why I despise your beliefs. They teach you to hate your true self on the promise of a better life after death. Sad. sad

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              Flightkeeperposted 11 years agoin reply to this

              Sir Dent, in mark's KKK he sees hate in Christianity, haven't you learned by now?  If he can smell global warming, all he sees is hate in Christianity, it's a peculiar skill.

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                A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                At least Mark can be entertaining, his Klones are just, well, not quite the same.

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                  earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  You can insinuate all you like, it is meaningless as usual.
                  Why don't you answer the question? Jesus got your tongue? lol

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                  Flightkeeperposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes, mark can be entertaining. And his poor Klones are all wannabes who bow down to the great mark.

                  Texan, do you realize that if the Knowless Kult of the Kuckoos becomes the most popular religion we would have to spell Khikago like that? There goes skools -- I'm praktiking, just in kase.

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                    A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                    It Kould Katch on.

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              SirDentposted 11 years agoin reply to this

              So self denial is a bad thing to you? It isn't hate that causes one to give of their own self. Truthfully, as much as I see many talk so much about hate and love and have things backwards, I wonder if anyone knows what love really is.


              If I sacrifice myself to help others, do I hate myself? If I sacrifice buying myself a new bass guitar to buy something for my son, do I do it out of hate for myself?

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                Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                Aww sweetie - But you haven't sacrificed yourself. Have you? wink

                But yes - denying who you are is a bad thing. Bad, bad thing. Simple really. You are not a martyr after all. Pretending that you are... Well... laughable really.  Sad even.

                If you cannot be honest with your self - you cannot be honest with anyone else. And that shows.

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                  SirDentposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  I know this one thing for certain. Nothing I say will cause you to make a comment that is nice to anyone. You call everyone condecending when it is you who is condecending.

                  Toss your insults out as you will. It hurts no one but your own self. THis is hate. Insulting, bashing, calling names, etc. . .

                  Love is putting yourself in the line of fire and recieving all the hate that is tossed your way.

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      Flightkeeperposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      We know that Mark is the learned hubber of science and religion that's why he published his great work, Talking About Nothing in 10 Days and has established the KKK, the Knowless Kult of the Kuckoo.

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    A Texanposted 11 years ago

    Its been fun but the level of competition has declined considerably!

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      (Q)posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Stop posting then.

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        sneakorocksolidposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Only you can post thats not fair either! I declare that Q has commited a major foul! Somebody get the paddle!big_smile

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        A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        See?

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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    I think the hat is cool.

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    SirDentposted 11 years ago

    I think it is time for a nap.

    http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/parenting/2007/02/07/051022_Pacifiers_hsmall.widec.jpeg

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      SirDentposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      .

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    sneakorocksolidposted 11 years ago

    C'mon Q! Q doesn't stand for quitter does it?big_smile

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    A Texanposted 11 years ago

    "You can insinuate all you like, it is meaningless as usual.
    Why don't you answer the question? Jesus got your tongue? lol"

    Something is wrong with this thread so if this is meant for me then could you tell me what I'm insinuating? If I don't agree with the hate that you spew everyday I must be a Christian? Nah, I'm just a guy who likes to show intolerance works both ways, keep trying honey, you are way off.

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    (Q)posted 11 years ago

    "Paper Wolf wrote:

        I believe that God has a purpose and a plan for every person."

    Paper Wolf, where are you? Toss out your superstitious beliefs and then run and hide? Typical.

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    Flightkeeperposted 11 years ago

    Where is everybody? Huh, just like a Kult Klone to leave when everything was getting fun.  They must be converting more Klones. Very well. Bye all.

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      A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      You know women, no offense!

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      Brenda Durhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      haha maybe they did.  I just left to grab some dinner and leave 'em to the fight! ha

      Wow, though; it occurs to me that this was an odd discussion....

      Two ardent non-Believers showed an inordinate amount of interest in a talk about sacrifice and resisting the devil,

      And a man who doesn't claim to be a Christian was accused of being one.

      I think that's the first time I've ever seen a non-Christian persecuted for the sake of Christ.......

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        A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        They follow the Book of Mark! Knowles, that is.

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          Twenty One Daysposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          its not a booK, Tex, its a 'blog'. lol

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            Mark Knowlesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Gawd - finally a witty response. 21 days to wait until the next one huh? wink

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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    Yep I guess so!

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      A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Forgive them, for they know not what they do, literally!

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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    I'll try.
    Although I'm not totally convinced they don't really know....

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      A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      They don't bother me, they like to try and make people look bad all the while sucking up to others. Its a character flaw for sure, and maybe a mental one as well.

      Either way they are predictable!

      1. earnestshub profile image89
        earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        He says sucking up to another religionist! Very funny! lol

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          A Texanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Like I said, predictable!

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        lyricsingrayposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        sorry to interrupt, but

        hey babe,
        wanna come over to MYSPACE and
        TWITTER my YAHOO 'till I GOOGLE
        all over your FACEBOOK?

        just a thought.

  35. profile image0
    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    I think he likes us....

  36. profile image0
    A Texanposted 11 years ago

    I think nobody likes him and he's hurting inside, sad really.

    1. earnestshub profile image89
      earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Do you know anything about any other hubbers?

      I'll rephrase that. Do you know anything? smile

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    lyricsingrayposted 11 years ago

    lol

  38. theirishobserver. profile image60
    theirishobserver.posted 11 years ago

    When I was in prison I read a daily prayer book - in it there was a quote so I dont know if it was directly from the Bible or an interpretaion - but it said, "They who shout loudest about the crimes of others do so to conceal there own crimes", this reading has stuck with me through many years, especially here in Ireland as many politicians have been shown to be corrupt and criminal, many church leaders have been exposed as criminals and conspirators and so forth, and yet these are the very people who would condemn others and fill tabloid headlines with their hypocracy, this is an honest contribution and I would be interested to know if the initial verse was an interpretation or an actual quote from the Bible smile

    1. earnestshub profile image89
      earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      This is well known in Psychological circles as a rule of thumb. The big squawkers are candidates for this sort of behaviour.
      It is because what they cannot accept about themselves they project on others, so anyone with a case against them is a target for this type of loon to vent. smile

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      lyricsingrayposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      thank you irish for sharing that with us.  My respect for you continues to grow each time we cross paths. be well.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I honestly don't know if that direct concept is in the Bible or not.

      There are of course some similar verses....

      But it's not true in every circumstance that the one who shouts loudest about crime is doing so to conceal his own crime!

      I think you're very jaded or paranoid about the leaders of your country, irish, because you've mentioned it time after time.

      I'm pretty disappointed in the leaders of my country too.
      I shout pretty loudly about them!   I also loudly proclaim against things like abortion and gay marriage being made into law.   Yet I'm not concealing a personal crime.

      You're shouting pretty loudly about your country's leaders too!
      Are YOU concealing a crime of your own?

      We have the right to be upset about corruption and fraud and hypocrisy.  But it's not fair to label EVERYONE who speaks out boldly about something, a fraud or hypocrite.

      See what I mean??

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        china manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        I don't agree. Just because one cannot see ones own hypocrisy does not mean it is not there.

    4. Valerie F profile image60
      Valerie Fposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It's not in the Bible at all, though the Bible has something to say about removing the beam from your own eye before trying to pick out the speck in another's.

  39. theirishobserver. profile image60
    theirishobserver.posted 11 years ago

    earnestshub - thanks for that feed back smile

    1. earnestshub profile image89
      earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      You are most welcome. smile

  40. h.a.borcich profile image60
    h.a.borcichposted 11 years ago

    I popped in looking forward to a continued conversation about christian matters. What I saw was the usual crew tearing up something they don't even believe in.
    May God bless each and every one of you immensely, Holly

  41. tantrum profile image60
    tantrumposted 11 years ago

    Nice 'Christian ' discussion thread ! LOL

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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    I guess a Christian discussion can be a discussion among Christians and/or a discussion about Christianity in general.  At least we've been having that.  wink

    I like the seesaw illustration, tantrum.
    It's....purty realistic really.

    1. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      lol
      it is !

  43. earnestshub profile image89
    earnestshubposted 11 years ago

    Yep! ya need two on the see-saw or it won't see or saw.
    To have a god, ya need the other guy as well! lol

    1. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      lol

      1. earnestshub profile image89
        earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Tantrum, ya know the see-saw really says it all! lol

        1. tantrum profile image60
          tantrumposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          That's why I'm posting it everywhere ! lol

          1. earnestshub profile image89
            earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Very inclusive! smile

            1. tantrum profile image60
              tantrumposted 11 years agoin reply to this

              Sure is ! lol

              1. earnestshub profile image89
                earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                Well this is by far the most intelligent comment here! lol

  44. coletta7 profile image61
    coletta7posted 11 years ago

    Aw stop fighting Jesus came for the lost! which is all of us, none of us are any better than the next. We all need a savior"

    1. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Why would I need one ?

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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    Which one do you think falls off the seesaw in the end, earnest?

    1. earnestshub profile image89
      earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It matters not, the see saw stops. smile

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        lyricsingrayposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        lol

        1. earnestshub profile image89
          earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          As long as we have religion. smile

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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    Whether there's always religion or not,  the seesaw, yes, stops eventually; but not in the middle.  Nope, it tips.
    We all know which way it tips.  You know the score, earnest;  you were once there, on this side.
    Which side you gonna be on, earnest??

    1. earnestshub profile image89
      earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Like I said. It matters not. Remove god, remove his used to be buddy. The see saw stops. smile your made up god needs a made up fallen angel. smile
      Your belief system requires both. Take either one away creates the same result. The end of the back and forth, or in this case up and down.
      We are back to dealing with logic, and the human condition. smile

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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    What is the human condition?

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      (Q)posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      That is defined as living a life, all the good and bad things that happens to one in their lifetimes.

  48. profile image0
    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    And all the possibilities that we can do or achieve or not achieve?

    1. profile image55
      (Q)posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Absolutely. The human condition is encapsulated in several fields including the metaphysical. Asking ourselves our purpose in life is part of the human condition as is sexual orientations, for example.

  49. profile image0
    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    Oh my.  You DID just go there, didn't you?!
    lol and hmm...

    I have an Answer for that, but don't have time to elaborate very much right now.....

    I'll say two words----

    self control.   Or that might be one word, I dunno;  getting a dictionary now....haha

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      (Q)posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Go where? Self control? Huh?

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    Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

    You said sexual orientations is part of the human condition.

    I said the answer to that is self-control.

    1. profile image55
      (Q)posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Perhaps, you misunderstood. Sexual orientations was merely an example of that which comprises the human condition. Your belief in god is also another part of the human condition. They are merely examples to help you understand the concept better. smile

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