I was looking for the verse where it is written that...
God said "now I will write my laws in their hearts".
I apreciate any help. thank you.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
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Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
Thank you SirDent These were what I was looking for.
Hope all is well on your end.
That is what we gotta keep in mind. All is well
Sometimes I start feeling sorry for myself then I try to remember to .... think about places or situations that I would rather NOT be in/at more than the place that I am at.
That is always easy to do. and then I feel a bit better.
Well I have to go deliver an estament. Maybe I'll get a payday this week ?? Later
The Battle Hymn of The Republic
(1861)
Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord:
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword:
His truth is marching on.
(Chorus)
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
His truth is marching on.
I have seen Him in the watch-fires of a hundred circling camps,
They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps;
I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps:
His day is marching on.
(Chorus)
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
His day is marching on.
I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel:
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,
Since God is marching on."
(Chorus)
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Since God is marching on.
He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat;
He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat:
Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet!
Our God is marching on.
(Chorus)
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Our God is marching on.
In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me:
As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free,
While God is marching on.
(Chorus)
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
While God is marching on.
He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave,
He is Wisdom to the mighty, He is Succour to the brave,
So the world shall be His footstool, and the soul of Time His slave,
Our God is marching on.
(Chorus)
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Our God is marching on.
I'm often amazed at how many people still think Christianity came from the Catholic Church and equate all things Christian with it.
Christianity came from Judaism and Judaism is a branch of Vedic Tradition and the Vedic tradition came from the Aryans, the Ayrans who are now Muslims. It's true. So, you can slice and dice and you'll be slice and dicing no one but yourself.
I think....you may have bought the wrong brand of slicer/dicer, or else you've bought into the wrong definition of Christianity,
'cause, no, that's not where Christianity came from. ha
Actually, "Christianity" came directly from pagan mouths, in the heart of a pagan city, where much Vedic history presided, intermixed with Meso-Grecian. (see Artemis).
Though it is ascribed to those following the Anointed One, it is in fact originally of pagan decent. The modern association of it with Catholicism is from Roman pagan influence and adoption of idolatry -statues, etc.
Simplify for my litte mind, 21.
Are you talking about the religion that's labeled Christianity or the actual true belief in Christ as Savior?
I already simplified it for you, he is detailing the course of the influence.
I realize that you are trying to celebrate your faith and you have every right to do that. But the celebration of faith requires that you deepen it. And by deepening it you must tackle darkness, the unknown and shed light on it.What this means is that you try to understand that which you do not know about your faith. That is just something I need to share with you because you seem eager to internalize it.
But you are in the realm of archetypes and unless you bring it down to the level of the world, it will not benefit you.
Insanity (not saying you are insane..., just saying Jung had an opinion) differs from a mystical experience only because it cannot translate the mystical experience to knowledge and wisdom the way Mystics like St. Francis of Assisi did. It remains in the archetypal world of symbolisms. A chronic condition of the faithful in modern times.
"And I say unto you my friends, 'Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear; Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yeah, I say unto you, Fear him.'"
Luke 12: 4,5.
(God is the one with that Power.)
Forget yesterday, it is the past.
Live in today, for it is now.
Don't plan for tomorrow, it is a prophecy and there is no promise of it.
Hello Sir Dent.
I'm mulling on the topic of Adam and Eve in the garden, when they messed up.
The Bible says the woman was in the transgression, she being deceived. Yet other places say that Adam sinned as well.
Do you have any opinions on this?
I think what's turning over in my mind is the question of deliberate sin versus being deceived about something being a sin...
Adam did indeed sin knowingly. God told Adam to not eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. I wrote a hub about Adam and the fruit. One of my first hubs here actually. I speculated on why Adam disobeyed God. It is written more like a short story than anything else.
Ahhh
I suppose I am insane by the standards of unbelievers.
And I am foolish by the standards of those who claim to be wise.
I'm okay with that.
And I don't want a "mystical" experience.
I live, as all Christians do, in a literal world but in a Spiritual realm.
you are not insane, but the spiritual realm is also the mystical realm.
if you truly are content with the spiritual realm then why bother arguing facts?
The spiritual realm is immune to facts because it delves in mysteries.
I disagree. Facts are necessary and always important.
And besides, Christians want others to find the Lord, to be drawn into that Spiritual realm. No other way to do that than to tell them the Gospel, the literal fact that Jesus died for them.
I, nor any Christian, can rest on their laurels because we have no laurels. Our job isn't done until we die.
I consider the religion of mysticism to be very selfish! It seems to be about personal "enlightenment" or some such nonsense at the total exclusion of being burdened for lost souls.
I see, you don't see yourself as having a mystical experience?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
You may be mistaking esoteric to mysticism. but esoteric practices are just deeper practices of mysticism.
The historical interpretation of the death of Christ robs you of its mystical meaning. That in order to live in spirit you must die unto the world.
Is that so bad?
We must live in the world but not be OF the world.
I see no contradiction in that at all.
so do i... so why the necessity to deny historical data when that is not important?
stick to what matters to you, or what you know. that way you will be more effective in communicating your message. just saying, you know spirit...talk spirit. don't talk biblical scholar stuff that really really don't impact the gems of your understanding.
Sorry, but that's not me, and it's not who I am in Christ.
Not only did God give us the opportunity to experience Him in our spirits, He gave us a little thing called common sense to realize that we're human and He is not.
Though I agree with you, its not quite in the way you think. the measure of common sense is relative to knowledge.
common sense differs from group field to group field.
What you are saying actually is you do not want to go past your world view. You do not want to grow and just believe whatever you believe right now.
Your life will change, and when it does it will demand for you to go deeper in your understanding of the "spirit". Because at the level you are at right now, you are calling upon experiences that will challenge it.
We are Human and G-d is not. this requires you understand what human is atleast... because no matter how hard you try, you will never never understand what G-d is and what G-d is not, you can only understand yourself and in so doing see what G-d is in relation to you.
But that is the misconception. the real world is the spiritual world. You cannot separate them, if you truly believe. Y`shua's example of him and many others resurrected show plainly all things are physical and spiritual -visible and invisible. Those of Faith/Grace are to 'bring all things hidden (within themselves and that of surrounding darkness) into the light -to remove them and expose them. This is the meaning of 'flee from you in terror'.
The true commission of every believer is not the unbelieving, but them revealing the hidden -actual- L/light, not a metaphorical one.
you know what i meant.
Many I know refer to light as some faux phantom or good deeds emulation of good deeds, when it literally means light itself.
explaining in laymans turns isn't easy for me.
Oh that. Like in that metaphorical way. Light as divine knowledge.
(and that curious fact that only knowledge (info) can travel at the speed of "light" and the information age is actually based on a technology of pairs of blinking lights)
well duh! actually odd is they are measuring the optic speed which is possibly reduced to make it 'visible'. I think one article read says 60,000 thoughts per day or something and 2 million optic/images. What i liked was the optic images are 'seen' in 360 degree parameters, indicating the intake (ohm) /outtake (amps) (circuit) of light from the human.
Formed a question : is the human mind the bender of light. Yes. It is a "core quad processor".
there was one study where they slowed down the speed of light and it was almost tangible. it was the coolest thing I've ever read!
that would be cool. slowing down enough to solidify, become "physical". I wouldn't mind watching that! course it is the reverse of my theory regarding humans. being able to speed up light within to radiate outwardly. I think the christians call it being transformed...
You and James are often proposing that view.
Again, sorry, but you'll never catch me cross-legged chanting some weird things (or even chanting Biblical things!) and inviting "spirits" into my mind and life.
You may catch me flat on my face or on my knees at the foot of the Cross. THERE is where one finds the Spirit.
The other, as I said, only invites "spirits" that I will have no part of.
Thats not what I do. As for meditation, that's just like praying the rosary or praying. Inviting spirits assumes that you believe these spirits as you put them have any power over you.
What i do is help people find their calling in life and empower them to be creative. I also actually help people help themselves.
and flat on your face is a form of meditation. the only difference between you and me is this. i know what I don't know and know what i know.
anyway, brenda. the forum is there for discussions because it is good to talk about things that interest you. It is not in anyway designed to convince you to change. you are just a stage I am dancing on.
hmmm...
well, hey, I hereby request that you never ever ever wear spiked heels when you're dancin' on me, ya hear?!
I'm a stage you're dancing on too! We are all dancing on each other! And I never wear heels. That's called acupressure! Good for ya!
On of my favorite Bible verses is: Jer 29:11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.
Wherein I suffer trouble ,as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the Word of God is not bound. IITim2:9 I may mess up and I may be bound on earth here to man but Praise God His Word is not bound, which leads me to Through Christ I can do all things!
So....does the light really bend, or is it just perceived by the mind to have been bent?
Does it really bend, or does the eye just retain the amount of light it can accept without being consumed and blinded by the light?
Isaiah 55: 6:
"Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near;
Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; and let him return unto the Lord, and He will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon."
Genesis 6: 3:
"And the Lord said, 'My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh; yet his days shall be a hundred and twenty years.'"
120 years later, the great Flood came.
Brenda - it is very rude to keep resurrecting this dead thread to promote your pro-divorce agenda.
There was no flood. Sorry for your loss.
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
funny... I never enter these forums but I decided to and you quoted very close to one of my favorite scriptures in the bible Rev 20:12 ( I find it interesting with the whole 2012 doomsday in the air)
What I posted has nothing to do with 2012. it has nothing to do with any of the recent posts. I just happen to like that verse of scripture very much.
Hi figment! Interesting verse you mentioned.
"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."
It's interesting that the books are plural, there's more than one book out of which people are judged.
Matter of fact, it looks like there are at least 3 books, and two of those are from which unbelievers are judged.......?
Then verse 15 says "whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."
Sounds to me like Believers aren't judged at all; if their name is in the book of life, they've escaped the lake of fire.
It's talking about on judgement day, Q.
Not about the things we do before we die; because until we die we're held to accountability, to repentance. If, however, we're still Believers as we die, then there's no reason to be afraid of His judgement.
Why are you so negative? You don't seem to even entertain any notion of the concept of forgiveness.
But oh well. Be a hard case if you wanna.
Some will claim openly to being accountable, but as you know it isn't any of us who know your mind, Brenda, and the things you've done. If you believe in your god, then you know who knows you best.
Do you entertain the concept of forgiveness when you damn the homosexuals or does forgiveness only apply to you?
Mark, I have no pro-divorce agenda.
I think you're stuck on a certain subject. And I think it's because you've decided you just don't like me personally. But my security in being forgiven doesn't depend on what you think of me, 'cause you're not my Lord.
However, if you feel so strongly about divorce, why don't you go picket and make petitions for divorce to be outlawed? That sounds like a good agenda to me! I might even sign the petition. Seriously.
So you do have a pro-divorce agenda then.
Yes - protesting to make it illegal for other people to do something you have done sounds about right.
You could always make the law "retroactive" ya know.
Heck, if you'd make it go all the way back to 1985, it would clear the whole thing up! My divorce would be totally invalidated and non-existent, and I'd be a faithful married woman dealing with a cheating husband.
Come on Mark, perform the miracle!
Of course, that was pre-gay-marriage days too, so.....the wimpy laws that have allowed gay "marriage" in some States would have to be dealt with retroactively too; but it should be easier than the anti-divorce laws, because they wouldn't have to go back as far.
I like this agenda! Shall we collaborate on it?
I am confused again Brenda. You want it illegal for other people to get a divorce and think I have a time machine?
I don't have a time machine Brenda. Sorry.
You also think that divorce was illegal in 1985? Am I getting that right?
No.
You seem to think divorce is such a sin, and that even if a person has a Biblically-condoned reason for divorce, that it's such a horrible sin that it should be outlawed, right?
Well, I rather agree.
So if we're gonna be fair about it, we gotta invalidate all the abominable things that were done via legalization. Which means gay marriage should be totally illegal too.
Come on, I'm with ya! Let's do this thing!
...or....maybe you're afraid to appear "judgemental" and "anti-diverse" or something by the gay agenda?.....ya gonna wimp out on me now?
No, we think your god thinks divorce is such a sin, by your own scriptures.
Sorry, but you have never offered that so-called "Biblically-condoned reason for divorce"
Only if you agree that your divorce was illegal.
I see. So - what you are saying is that you should not be held accountable for your inability to satisfy your husband? And it was not your responsibility to make sure he was satiated? And when Sarai bore Abram no child - it was OK that he took another. But not when you fail to do the Lord's bidding?
You are still promoting your pro-divorce agenda, I see. Divorce is OK here Jesus. But not gay marriage.
Well - good for you. I hope everyone breaks their word to god and "'till death us do part" is replaced with "'till I cannot satisfy you any more".
oh dear.
For people that I thought were so logical, it sure is awful hard to make a logical point with you two.
But Brenda, there is no logic in your argument. You simply can't go around complaining about other people's "anti-god" activities when you yourself violated gods laws.
That is entirely the point.
That is your point, but not mine.
My point is something that's easily seen if you're not stuck in the laws of condemnation.
The only truly "retroactive" thing is the grace of God and His ability to "forget" your sins and mine.
Until you even attempt to recognize the mercy of God, the power of the Cross, you will remain blinded by both your own sins and the sins of others.
I'm not stuck in the "laws of condemnation" Brenda, I am simply referring to your scriptures.
Perhaps, it is you who is stuck there as you continue to condemn homosexuals.
This isn't about me, Brenda. It's about you condemning others for the same thing you did yourself.
1Corinthians 6: 9-11:
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God,
And such were some of you; but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God."
What an awesome God we born-again Believers serve!
He is the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End, the God of Love and Jealous for our hearts!
"That, according as it is written, 'He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.'"
Amen Brenda! What a great thread. I wish I had found this months ago when I first joined Hubs. I am just now exploring Hub Pages other than for posting my articles. What great fellowship this can be...
Psalm 28:7
The LORD is my strength and my shield; my heart trusted in him, and I am helped: therefore my heart greatly rejoiceth; and with my song will I praise him.
This is one of many of my favorite scriptures..
I love this one because if not for the Lord, I would falter, and my strength would be nil...My heart rejoices that I have salvation and I thank God for giving his only son for my sins.
hmmm.....well, I'm actually glad that this thread draws unbelievers, no matter how testy and nasty they are. God works in odd ways.
So, you damn those who you hate and we are the nasty ones because we have shown that you yourself have done the same things you condemn?
Interesting.
Well, actually, Paul rebukes those who condemn their brethren for doing things while they do the same things. I would give you chapter and verse, but I'm tired of doing the work for you when you don't wanna listen to the Word anyway, so I won't.
Umm...I haven't done "the same thing". I've never engaged in homosexual activity. BUT that doesn't mean I'm any better than anyone else. It just means that that's not the form my temptations take.
What I have told you and stressed repeatedly is that there is forgiveness available for ALL sinners including me. I chose to accept that forgiveness He offers and turn from my adulterous ways. While you apparently do not. So that's your responsibility, not mine.
But you are still promoting your pro adultery agenda. Good for you Brenda. I too hope for more adultery. I will even pretend to repent and carry on doing it - the same as you.
Excellent work. Hiiisssss
I've done the research myself, Brenda, I always do that regardless of what believers claim about their scriptures. And, while I did in fact admit to Jeff that there were indeed "loopholes" to the divorce and adultery laws in scriptures, one way or another, it still does not give you the right to criticize others simply because you believe everything is all right now and you'll be saved.
It's like the reformed smoker, driving other smokers insane with preaching the word of his new found health and the debauchery of their addiction.
You broke your gods law, Brenda. It IS the same thing.
Forgiveness for you but NOT for homosexuals, Brenda? That is what you've actually stressed repeatedly.
Actually Q anybody who tries to tell you that smokers are breaking any scriptural 'laws' would be in error:
Mark 7:18-19 (King James Version)
And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
Forgiveness for ANYONE, is available when they come to faith and repent (i.e. stop doing, turn away from) for their actions that separate them from God.
The key aspect of forgiveness is the willingness to recognise our areas where we are out of line with Gods will and our desire to follow His will for the rest of our lives.
Nobody is perfect, but God knows our hearts and can clearly see when we are sinning with deliberation, in rebellion to Him, as opposed to sinning from our human frailness, having fallen prey to the deceptions of the world.
In our church we have many reformed sinners, some homosexuals, some fornicators, some adulterers, some thieves, liars, indeed sinners of all types, but they are former sinners, regenerated by Christ into new creations.
Do they still sin, YES, but not as often and not by choice, but by being human.
Each time they fall, they get back to the mercy seat and confess their failings, and start again, doing better at staying free from their sin the next time Satan comes a calling.
But guess what? - Christ forgives them.
Try it, it works better than staying in rebellion to Christ and having to be contentious to prove a point that cannot be proven.
John, not to interrupt...
Of all the outspoken 'believers' in here, you seen to be very close to the actual lifestyle of being a believer. I am speaking in terms of being an "doer" versus a hearer. That is most encouraging.
Just my thoughts. - James
Luk 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
SirDent, an excellent reference, thank you. It clearly describes in words that which every Christian will accept as the god given truth.
The thing is though, and maybe that's more of what has a bee in the pious bonnet, perhaps the real reason for such unforgiveness is that Christians believe homosexuals DO know what they're doing.
rev 6.8 . cool vrs johnny cash uses it in a song of his called when the man comes around. worth a listen
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith
If possible, I would like to bend the space-time continuum a little and inject into the subject your actual daily expression of being Christ like. I am assuming everyone who is a believer understands the full meaning of it. If not, perhaps now is THAT moment when we should discuss it. Not in pseudo or literary terms but real terms...
First what are the physical attributes of the Anointing evident in you -not passed or future but actual present?
Second what are the mental attributes of the Anointing?
And most importantly, what are the spiritual aspects of the anointing? Again not memorized words but experience.
When Born again we are like small children. It was the best decision I have or will have made in my entire life. I am like a small child. God is the Father. A father will discipline his child. Living a life as a believer is not primrose lane. We will be persecuted because we love Jesus and Believe in Him. If you take the l out of WORLD you GET WORD. You see as a child of God I live the Living word (Jesus Christ) in me. I abide in him and he abides in me. The world does not have the evidence of the Holy Spirit in them. You see the Holy Spirit is the anointing. He leads us and when we ask Jesus into our heart as lord and savior we get new eyes. We learn and grow in Christ. We find that he is the only way to freedom and peace. The world will let you down there is no guarantee in the world.No promise of a pay check or no guarantee the 401 k will be there. In Christ he has over 8,000 promises for his kids. They have never changed he does not change. He is my boss. I trust Jesus and what he says. He will not mislead us. He never has he never will. He died on the cross for us a brutal death. The Holy Spirit is anointing.He comforts, guides and stirs hearts. Christ told his apostles when I go to the father he would leave the holy spirit for all who believed in him. The holy spirit goes before us to help us and to answer questions such as this. He is part of the God head. Father son holy spirit. I hope this helps.
I can't remember any time that I was "HIT" with an anointing. It seems to me to be more like it was on me from birth. It seems more like the intensity almost went out and it would increase. It fluctuated on a number of ocasions.
That may mean that I don't have "THE Anointing" depending upon a persons definition of what That is?
I've heard people say that "OH if you had it you would definately know it" Kinda like having a broken arm... "if you think that you might have broken your arm .. you didn't"
James, James...you're only talking to me
the frequency is above forum range.
-Cecilia, I just saw this post! And, you may be right.
I simply asked them to explain their daily expression of the anointing in them.
This is the purpose of edification, right?
Instead, I get quotes, pseudo talk or the extreme opposite -hate speech. But, genuinely, I would like to "find" anointed people who are not falsely on fire -insert lucid mental image here- but those truly of the Fire.
In which case, I might find some fellowship.
So, let me re-post it and see if people can respond to it.
First off I don't think that we can be Christ like on this side of the river (dimension).
We can emulate some of his behaveiors though as best as we can.
First would be patience.. Don't ever pray for this one cause ya learn how to patiently by waiting seems like forever while he rubs it is very slowly.
Forgiveness being very slow to anger and when ya get angry it is calculated to be the right thing to do. Which is almost never the right thing to do. Unless you are raising children???
Peace of mind, knowing that you are exactly where you are supposed to be. And ya gotta spread that peace and good will knowing that it bounces off the walls getting all over ya.
Last that comes right offin the top of my head is respect and love (as much as ya can) for all things and everybody.
Again the better that we get at doing this the more it bounces back on ya.
That may not be some peoples definition but it about sums up mine.
With Christ all things are possible. ALL THINGS He took my smoking when I gave it to him. I was ready to Let go and let God. I am now Free from the addiction. Glory to God I could not have done it without him. I do not have a life without Jesus. I tried it on my self seeking motives. I was not a happy camper.
We all fall short of the Glory of God. We are only made righteous through the Blood of Jesus Christ. He suffered a brutal death at calvary so we could be forgiven. We live in a fallen world. Everyone has a Goliath that holds them down.
With Christ standing for us we may fall but he will help us to our feet. He will never leave nor forsake us. He knows our hearts. May the Love of Christ direct your paths. In love and peace. Praise Jesus.
If You believe in Jesus Christ as lord and savior and have asked him into your heart then the Holy Spirit abides in you. If you do not believe that Jesus is Lord and savior then it would be impossible to have the Holy Spirit in you. When you are born jeramie you are a child born into the world. We have free will when we come to an age of knowing Jesus and wanting a personal relationship with him and ask him our heart then we are reborn and are a child of Gods. You see this is the anointing. If you were born again the holy spirit abides in you and you would understand these things I tell you. If no holy spirit then I think it is safe and fair to say you have not asked Jesus into your heart as your Lord and Savior. You see he is our free ticket to heaven. We get to decide because we have a choice. Many choose to build there own god, but there is only one god. It is God the father, son and holy spirit. God sent his son to die for us so we could be forgiven and we will not die but live in eternity paradise heaven for ever. If we deny Jesus Christ we deny the father and we will not get to heaven. NO one would make it if it was good person bad person. We all sin, me to. I am forgiven. This is the anointing believing in Jesus and that he died and rose from the dead and sits at the right hand of the father. The Holy Spirit lives in us and shows us things to come and directs our path and prepares hearts to hear abut Jesus Christ. This is the anointing. Many Blessings Jeramie. I have many hubs that will give you more clarity if you would like. Jesus loves you. He has plans for your life. DO you know Jesus?
Haven't bee avoiding answering this.
Back is hurting today, can't sit in this chair very long. Take a pain pill and go to sleep.
My question was leaning in the other direction.
I was suggesting the possibility of the anointing being upon someone and they not even know it??
I think that the anointing can sit on each of us all in a different way.
To your question... Yes I Know him.
I have been running through everything that religion teaches and can not agree with everything. I don't think that anyone can in all honesty.
Have you ever tried to distinguish what can be believed and what can't and by what process you distinguish the difference?
right, but again, this is pseudo talk, scripted memorization.
i don't mean to press in, but can you (the plural) tell me exactly your daily expression of those three points i made, without quoting script or pseudo refreshment? not in the self serving mode of: well I just...but actual events.
Yep I do.
I think that I may have spent too much time in the forums? Throwing out a little food for thought. And I like to nibble on that same food for thought also.
I hear terms such as Anointing, Reborn in Christ, Saved etc.
And many definitions for them.
I was questioning definitions. I don't recall if David or Saul were God fearing men before Samuel anointed Them?
I know Samson was anointed before his birth.
I was just wondering what peoples thoughts were concerning a person being anointed and not necessarily recognize that this feeling is not normal? As you said just because this body is anointed or our soul is saved that we can not still be a sinner?
To sum it all up; I was just thinking out loud.
Good answers in your post by the way. Thanks.
Food for thought hmmm Saved, Born again, salvation,
1.Children of God are saved from hell, born again asked Jesus Christ into our hearts as Lord and Savior of our life. Reborn we one were lasts and now we were found!! We have Spiritual eyes now Jeramie. We Love Jesus.We belong to the Father God because we believe in Jesus. Walking with Christ is a journey into the heart with Christ( Christ means anointed one) abundant life is joy, peace, kindness,self control, meekness, humility, long suffering. These are gifts from God the Father. They are free. Gifts are free. No one can take our gifts from us unless we give them away. It is a walk with Christ. We learn, grow, trust Jesus and share love. It is not perfect I blow it allot of the time. I am forgiven I make mistakes I am forgiven I love Jesus because he loved me first. I was thought of way before I was born. There is a plan for me for you. for believers. God wants all to have salvation ( going to heaven) we know Jesus and do not deny him. If we are anointed we are for Jesus Christ he is the way truth life. I get to tell the lost about Jesus, someone told me in 1992. I am forever grateful. I asked him into my heart. I am saved from hell and from the world. GREED LUST ME SELF I. I am a sinner, don't get me wrong we all are. I am only mad righteous because of Jesus Christ my Savior.I try to do better next time and the holy spirit helps me along. I am anointed with the blood of Jesus. That is anointing. It was a long answer Jeramie. There is much more we do not graduate from learning. I do hope you will write back. Bless you jeramie. Come and read my hubs. It was great to meet you. My paradise is in Heaven (salvation) It awaits the children of God. We do not die a spiritual death we go to heaven the light with Jesus. If you do not know Jesus this is carnal meaning a person that does not see with spiritual eyes. Is that bad, well it is if you do not want to be lost in the dark. There is a devil. He comes to rob steel destroy. He is defeated. He is doomed, and he knows it. I do not like to say much about the evil one. ALL glory to God. I am grateful I have a pr with Jesus and I love him The enemy does not like his name he runs when he hears the name of Jesus Christ, the name above all names. Jesus is the thumbs up. Did I explain this so you could understand a bit easier. If I did it is because the holy spirit worked through me. Amen jeramie. Good night.
And Amen
Artin 2010,
Michael Adams 1959,
and
2besure,
and
Aguasilver!
and any other born-again child of God who's telling the Truth of God's word.
((I'm trying to catch up on Amen's! haha
I love sitting in the "Amen Corner" hearing the Word! Such a Blessing!))
Amen again here too, I wish I could put down all the ways Christ has blessed me in the last 6 months but the answer would be way too long. I would run out of room to put it in a hub. Jesus said, " I am the Way the Truth and the Life" He said, He would give us life more abundantly, I had always wondered about that abundantly NOT ANY MORE! I know the abundant life through my Saviour because I have finally GIVEN my entire life to the service of Christ, He has blessed my wife and I in so many ways. We just hit our 50's this past year, she was saved before the age of ten and I got to watch her in February be baptized, AMEN GLORY TO GOD, and our pastor ( doing the baptisms that night) had me to bring the message. I was in total tears the entire 20 minute message. Again GLORY TO GOD! AMEWN! PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME!!!!!!!!!!
Awesome! I can feel the excitement in your "voice"!
And being baptized brings such a Blessing, yes!
I'll tell you something else----it is a Blessing to see or hear of a man showing true emotion in the pulpit. My father was a preacher who wasn't ashamed to show the emotions that God brought out in him, and it's an awesome thing that stirs the heartstrings of many people to draw them to the Lord as well.
I have a hard time preaching on the cross. When I preach a message simply called My Jesus, I look like a blubbering idiot, I actually had to stop and get a tissue once. On Good Friday this year I did the message of Christ on the cross and the tears flowed the entire message, I have no shame on the emotions displayed, they are real, they are true convictions of my Jesus on that old cross.
I think our "friend" paarsurrey could be quite a unique individual, or multiple individuals; one with quite a sense of humor and sarcasm, perhaps? ....posts atheist anti-Christian stuff while claiming to be an Ahmadi Muslim under strict Muslim rules, yet see how free he/she/they is on these publicly-accessible forums. AND seems to use the Bible an awful lot for an avowed Muslim (uses it to try to rebut the Word, I will add.)
The drama continues; and when will it ever be revealed who paarsurrey really is? Ah.....I wait with muted patience....
Hi friend Brenda Durham
Don't be confused. i only express sincerely what I believe; you are under no compulsion to be convinced; keep yourself free on solid and rational grounds.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Jerami,
paarsurrey isn't Christian in philosophy nor a Christian, period.
It's only natural that he would seek to cause division.
As far as the division in the Christian churches.....it's almost always the ones who either dismiss or try to bypass the fundamentals, or embellish upon the fundamentals, that cause division.
And not you nor anyone can interpret all the Bible literally. Yes, God speaks well enough to say what He means to say! But remember that His word contains parables and mysterious sayings, and many of those can only be interpreted Spiritually. Hence, it is the born-again believer who can best interpret Scripture, for it is His Spirit that's inside of us.
And honestly, I find it hard to see that anyone is born again if they uphold opposition to the fundamental Laws of God, including many things from entertaining the notions of other religions and condoning homosexuality and praying to idols (dead or alive or inanimate) and condoning psychic works, and many other things.
I think it's those things that divide (or attempt to divide) the true Church. The true Church does not try to fit the Bible into a modern philosophy; the true Church tries to make their individual and collective lives fit the Laws of the Bible.
they are trying to conform 'god' to their agenda -with or without Y`shua. Oddly, few of them since His time are able to let go of their perspective and listen to His...
Hay Brenda
the way folks hide in their socks (puppet) nothing would surprise me about what paarsurrey is or isn't. I think I know who?
You said .....it's almost always the ones who either dismiss or try to bypass the fundamentals,
What are the fundamentals? It seems that these too, are up for interpretation.
Mankind even interprets the Ten commandments?
You said ... But remember that His word contains parables and mysterious sayings, and many of those can only be interpreted Spiritually.
That may be true ? But I would say that if that is the case they do not have any place in the foundation of our faith. These would be something to add after the foundation has been laid.
You said ..And honestly, I find it hard to see that anyone is born again if they uphold opposition to the fundamental Laws of God, including many things from entertaining the notions of other religions and condoning homosexuality and praying to idols (dead or alive or inanimate) and condoning psychic works, and many other things.
Who determines what those fundamental laws are?
And condoning the notions of other religions and condoning homosexuality ??
Do you think that I do that? If you do, you are wrong. I do however refuse to apply for my hunting license for hunting homosexuals or any other sinners. I am sure that there is a hunting license for sinners like me.
You said ... I think it's those things that divide (or attempt to divide) the true Church. The true Church does not try to fit the Bible into a modern philosophy; the true Church tries to make their individual and collective lives fit the Laws of the Bible.
And yet each individual gets to interpret that bible according to their own spirit ??
I believe that concept is "NEW AGE"
My stance has always been that, if we can reframe from interpreting prophesy; we will see the other scripture through a glass more clearly.
Every one of us sinners have a time, season and a purpose.
Indeed we do.
And that purpose starts being fulfilled after we accept Christ into our lives and start walking with Him.
Why would anyone really ask what the fundamentals are?
And I'm gonna answer it the way I see it-----they ask because they're unsure.
And one reason they're unsure is that modern man has tried (and succeeded in many areas) to blur the lines between right and wrong, in ALL our circles.
I'm reminded vividly of this as I just read a thread where the discussion is how an athiest should deal with the subject of a person of faith's questions at death! I'm sorry, but I can't help but find that at once both hilarious and ridiculous! The words "morals" and "right" and "wrong" are being dropped into a barrel and whoever picks 'em up is considered to be the owner of those values or non-values (they're never called "non-values", though, 'cause that would be so very intolerant.
What I'm trying to tell you, Jerami, is that to get good answers to your questions about the Bible, you should go to people who actually at the very LEAST claim to believe the fundamentals of right and wrong. Those are illustrated in the Bible and are common knowledge. If a person doesn't even get those fundamentals right, they're definitely not reliable enoough to be able to rightly interpret ANY part of the Word.
The "fundamentals" are basically that God is Almighty Creator, that Jesus is His Son who died for the sins of the world; that Jesus rose again; that there is one God in three manifestations---Father, Son, and Holy Ghost; that the Bible is the true, Divinely-inspired word of God; that anybody who chooses to believe and accept Christ as Savior will be saved and therefore have the hope of eternal Life in Heaven with Him.
What I've seen for a few years now is that a bunch of people, some even supposed-Believers, are so twisting the Bible's words that they've re-defined the basic concepts of RIGHT and WRONG which God Almighty set in place (and in literal stone at first---The Ten Commandments tables). They're watering down His word so much that righteous Christian judgement of wrongs are being called wrong itself; tolerance for immorality and atheism has taken the place of our basic human laws, and those who claim to want to hear the Truth are simply desirous of confusing Bible-believing Christians.
For example, Jerami, in your post above you've shown that you're afraid to stand against homosexuality (the stance of which can be considered "fundamental" because it's a common well-known account in the Bible of God's judgement upon Sodom; and let's not forget that He made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve; and yes that may be an old "cliche", but it's very true), and why are you afraid or at least hesitant? You said you're not gonna "apply for a hunting license for hunting homosexuals or any other sinners".......
Sorry, but a Christian who sees what's happening in our society these days wouldn't phrase it like that. You have fallen prey to the pressure of the liberal agenda, looks like. You want so badly to be liked by everyone, or as many people as possible, that you give up your in-born sense of right and wrong. Matter of fact, if the liberals get their way, you won't have to "hunt" for any blasphemous sinners to bring to Christ, because they'll OWN the churches, and then they won't really be churches anymore, will they? They'll be like the churches that someone around here described where a man in a dress was allowed in the pulpit openly.
There is a "hunting license" for sinners like you? Is that what you think? Very confusing....
That concept as YOU describe it probably IS "New Age".
But that is NOT what I described!
What I was saying is that Christians will interpret the Bible by the lead of the Holy Spirit, not by their own human spirits. You're the one who put that extra hint in there. And why did you do that?
Brenda said.. What I was saying is that Christians will interpret the Bible by the lead of the Holy Spirit,
I do not think that Gods laws need to be interpreted by any spirit; They are what they say that they are.
And the reason is ....
It seems that each of us has our own holy spirit that tells us what the true interpretation is? How can that be.
I think that it was a lieing spirit that has convinced us of that concept. The word of God does not need to be interpreted. That is what Satan is said to have told Eve in the Garden. "I'll tell you the truth as to why he said that".
Satan is still playing that same game cause it works so well.
It's not a different Holy Spirit. There is only one Holy Spirit.
The only question is who has that Holy Spirit? And the Bible says ye must be born again to understand Spiritual things.
I guess I don't see what you're getting at, Jerami.
If everyone that beleived that they were anointed had the same holy spirit interpreting scripture to them there would not be so many different interpretations of just one truth.
I think that this is why we are not given permision from God to interpret his messages.
It is just that simple.
I do remember the holy spirit being described our conforter.
I do not remember it being written that the holy spirit is to be our interperter.?????
If I am wrong I would apreciate reading that.
The Bible says the Holy Spirit (along with being our Comforter)will "guide us into all Truth" and "show" us "things to come".
(John 16: 13)
and don't forget that the Holy Spirit is...God!
The Holy Ghost is not a separate thing that has to be prayed for in order to be received; not a separate thing that only comes to those who speak in tongues or fall down or dance or claim to be prophesyers.
I have prayed for understanding on some matters and the spirit lead me to the scripture that answered my question, He has never interpreted it for me.
The spirit must be patient cause he has lead me to many different scripture before I finally understood.
After the understanding came I could then see how the first one had the answer. If I had been able to understand?
From my prospective I could compare this to being lead to where the treasure lies. But it will be me digging the hole in which the treasure is to be found in.
I don't think that the Holy spirit tells us what to think.
That understanding my friend IS the spirit interpreting for you!
AMEN and Hallelujah! We've just had "church" here tonight! LOVE it! Praise the One who gives us that joy that confounds the wisdom of the world! I'm about to shout right here!
If I shouted now my springer would start barking and wake everyone up!
But yes, this is church, when people of God stand up and glorify His Holy Name, How Great Is our God Sing with me how great is our God! We sang that this morning in church PRAISE GOD!
And on that note, I'm gonna have to go to sleep. It's wonderful to get to fellowship like this!
Hope to see you later; and tomorrow I'll try to read some more hubs of yours.
God bless you and your wife even more immensely and intensely!
Amen.
Thank you and may God richly bless you and your family too
My prayer is for people when they hear me preach is not that I am a know it all cause I don't, but that God's Spirit will convict their hearts and they will say yes to God.This I do know, All, the angels of heaven cannot make you get saved if you say no,BUT all the demons of Hell cannot stop you if you say yes!
Psalm 145: 18, 19, 20, 21:
"The Lord is nigh unto all them that call upon Him, to all that call upon Him in truth.
He will fulfill the desire of them that fear Him: He also will hear their cry, and will save them.
The Lord preserveth all them that love Him: but all the wicked will He destroy.
My mouth shall speak the praise of the Lord: and let all flesh bless His holy name for ever and ever."
I know what you mean.
My father (and I keep referring to my father, but I can't think of a more Spiritual man!) didn't have much of an education either, but he had holy fire in his eyes and a voice of both compassion and thunder when he preached the Gospel.
And drat it!----I'm cryin' now. shoot.
I miss my father.
He had a testimony of how he got saved from a life of drunkenness and circumstances of sin that many men don't come out of. He wasn't perfect, but he was a willing vessel for the Lord. And he had nothing to leave to us kids except a Spiritual legacy that's immeasurable! I am Blessed!
I saw many souls saved under his preaching. One time there was a person who took off out the church doors; it wasn't long until, praise God, they burst back through the doors and hurried to the altar to give their heart to Jesus. And it was to the altar, too; it wasn't to go stand in front of my Dad and have hands laid on 'em or anything like that. My father's preaching always pointed toward Christ, not toward himself.
Michael Adams1959 I attempted to reply today but Mail Damon sent it bact twice. Maybe next time it will get through.
All is well. and bless Ya
Gen 26:18 And Isaac digged again the wells of water, which they had digged in the days of Abraham his father; for the Philistines had stopped them after the death of Abraham: and he called their names after the names by which his father had called them.
Gen 26:19 And Isaac's servants digged in the valley, and found there a well of springing water.
Gen 26:20 And the herdmen of Gerar did strive with Isaac's herdmen, saying, The water is ours: and he called the name of the well Esek; because they strove with him.
Gen 26:21 And they digged another well, and strove for that also: and he called the name of it Sitnah.
Gen 26:22 And he removed from thence, and digged another well; and for that they strove not: and he called the name of it Rehoboth; and he said, For now the LORD hath made room for us, and we shall be fruitful in the land.
This will be my last post here in the religion forums. Everything posted meets way too much resistance and it causes more anomosity than it is worth. The atheists can have it as far as I'm concerned. I will find another place to dig my well.
Hate seeing ya go... Been thinking something on the same lines myself.
Sometimes I'll be sitting in the back yard listening to the songbirds when them blueJays come in and scare off all the other birds. Sometimes I go inside cause of all the noise.
I even saw a couple a hawks get run off by them. For real!
Ah, but Sir Dent!
Do you now give up when the well starts bearing fruit?
The Lord is in control of it all.
Psalm 107: 33-37:
"He turneth rivers into a wilderness, and the watersprings into dry ground;
A fruitful land into barrenness, for the wickedness of them that dwell therein."
((AND (there is always an "AND" with the Lord!))
"He turneth the wilderness into a standing water, and dry ground into watersprings.
And there he maketh the hungry to dwell, that they may prepare a city for habitation;
And sow the fields, and plant vineyards, which may yield fruits of increase."
The water of Life may be more shallow elsewhere, but it runs here too, even if we gotta dig a lot deeper to find it!
But hey, it's up to you. I'm buyin' equipment for well-diggin' other places too! No reason we can't drill baby drill wherever we want; there are no oil spills when we dig into that River of Life!
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