Why do many atheists accept Bhuddism?

Jump to Last Post 1-18 of 18 discussions (73 posts)
  1. Oztinato profile image50
    Oztinatoposted 2 years ago

    Why do many atheists accept Bhuddism?

    Many online atheists openly despise religion but have a warm soft spot for Bhuddism which is also a religion with temples, chants, prayers and reincarnation etc.
    Why is that?

    https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/13211229_f260.jpg

  2. Ericdierker profile image45
    Ericdierkerposted 2 years ago

    Oz, the nice thing about Buddhism is that it does not require worship of a particular God. Many who are not enlightened even a little bit miss this concept. Buddha rejected a deity creator. People toss around the notion of the use of the verbiage using a ism. Well atheism exists also.
    Yoga gets the idea across unless one is totally ignorant or prejudice. Mantras can be to any God or even a Namaste concept.

    I believe in mathematical equations and gravity. But they are not a false God. I believe a person should exercise their brain but I do not believe the brain is God. A Muslim or a Christian or a Jew can believe in the constructs of Buddhism. Most assuredly an atheist can. And someone should note that unlike what many say about the Bible: That you must believe all of it. Buddhism has no such concept. A person can accept some of Buddha's teaching and reject the rest. It is not an all or nothing concept. Unnecessary killing of a worm is not a fine thing to do. Believing in a God does not make you bad. The perspective of doing harm to another is universally ugly.
    I like the concept of "Jews for Christ" and I equally like the concept of "nonbelievers for Buddha". Conforming faith and religion are man-made and so is Buddha. Atheism is mental and so is most of Buddhism..

    1. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      All historians, encyclopedias, studies etc agree that bhuddism is a religion. To deny that is ignorance. Atheists who like bhuddism are closet agnostics but they are welcome to join a religion too.

  3. cheaptrick profile image73
    cheaptrickposted 2 years ago

    If Buddhism is a religion what is the name of their God?Buddha specifically told them Not to pray to him but to follow the precepts he discovered once 'awakened' .
    Buddhism is,unfortunately,beginning to suffer the same fate as all other spiritual schools that have come and gone through out history...much like the life cycle of a man;deification of its teacher and perversion of its teachings followed by atrophy and finaly death.
    Zoroastrianism seems to be the longest lasting known religion at four to six thousand years but it's a shadow of its self during its hay day in the middle east where it contributed greatly to its replacement,Christianity.
    That is the way of religion;Incorporate the old religions dogma but vilify its Gods,combine with the new beliefs of your religion,and present yourself as the Real truth about the new improved God that only you have the inside info on.
    In the words of the late George Carlin"When it comes to bullshit you half to stand in AWE of Religion"...RIP George...

    1. Ericdierker profile image45
      Ericdierkerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I looked up Carlin again. Unlike Will Rogers Carlin was strictly a pay to see comedian. His jokes were to make money.

    2. cheaptrick profile image73
      cheaptrickposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Eric!You had to Look Up George Carlin???You must live in a Box!!! "His jokes were to make money" doesn't make them any less true brother.

    3. Ericdierker profile image45
      Ericdierkerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Alright I did not have to look up one of my fav guys ever. Just your malstated quote. Which is AWEsome. Man does cook up some crazy stuff. But if man was not the cook, who would be.

    4. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Please Google Kwan Yin and the pantheon of bhuddist gods and goddesses.

  4. profile image0
    threekeysposted 2 years ago

    I am not in a position to answer this question but if I may I would like to respond in the way of....

    Im in a long period of transition. My world has been turned upside down. I am trying to form a new philosophy that includes the existence of what is upside down to me as well as a way of a more workable philosophy. What will become that new world view? I still don't know but this I do aspire to and/or want to manifest in my everyday life-

    -follow the golden rule (christianity) treat others as you would like to be treated

    - do the least harm as much as is possible in deed and action (buddhism)

    -learn to listen to the flame alight in your heart (your intuition) but still bring your brain along with you

    -be benevolent. Give someone a second chance (unless it is an unredeemable crime)

    -reach out warmly. Wear a smile. Its costs nothing and its a universal language of friendliness.

    And the rest? Im still waiting for the clarity.

    For your question? Christianity is a religion. Buddhism is an example of one kind of  philosophy.

    1. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Every encyclopedia ever written lists bhuddism as a religion.

    2. profile image0
      threekeysposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thwack!
      Is it important to be right or  right to be important?

      So the aim of this question is to get a discussion going or just to prove you are right? I may have misunderstood where you are coming from?

    3. Ericdierker profile image45
      Ericdierkerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I really have a hard time believing that Oz has read a Chinese or Arabic or Hindi dictionary or encyclopedia. Of course those would only account for about 8 tenths of the world as we know it. Does anyone even know what a WAPP is anymore.

    4. cheaptrick profile image73
      cheaptrickposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Dude!That is a Bold Statement! 'EVERY'?!?
      Minus one point of credibility from the 'big "O" for that one'...

    5. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      This is not a forum so we can't be overly detailed. Western atheist authored encyclopedias was implied. See you at the forum for long winded detail?

  5. tamarawilhite profile image92
    tamarawilhiteposted 2 years ago

    1. It lets them celebrate Christmas and other holidays as cultural icons without agreeing to Christianity's tenets or rules.
    2. Liberal multiculturalism says Judeo-Christian American culture is inferior and the more exotic/distant from European Christian culture something is, the better. Buddhism is Asian and novel to the West, thus better.
    3. It has a lot of room for personal interpretation from veganism to meat eating, yoga and meditation to just environmentalism. Perfect for atheists who want to define their own rules.
    4. Buddhism doesn't contradict astrology, ghosts, ESP, reincarnation and a lot of pagan beliefs many atheists still hold.

    1. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Astrology, ghosts, esp, reincarnation are firmly and forever religious phenomena. Atheists need to stop stereotyping religion as right wing fundamentalist or just plain "come out" of the closet as plain agnostics.

    2. Sam Shepards profile image92
      Sam Shepardsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Lol astrology, ghosts etc? The question is more what do they take from Buddhsim and which buddhism. Most often just words from buddha, meditation, zen. Rarely the mystical, otherworldy denominations...

    3. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Sam
      It's all about the mystical. There's a lot of astrology in it. See Tibetan bhuddism etc.

  6. tsmog profile image80
    tsmogposted 2 years ago

    For the main question IMHO it is because Buddhist don't believe in a God or gods. The teachings of Buddha states, "that believing in god(s) was not useful for those seeking to realize 'enlightenment' (The goal)". It is a perfect fit for when seeking something greater than something else at a personal level such as some kind of fulfillment as an atheist.

    Okay what about the other stuff. First, Buddhist do not believe in reincarnation. That is a Hindu belief. Many Buddhist believe in the process of rebirth seeking enlightenment, which is the goal. For more about rebirth see: Reincarnation and Buddhism: Here We Go Again http://www.alanpeto.com/buddhism/unders … n-rebirth/   

    Since Buddhist do not believe in a God or gods, then they do not worship one or them. They place a great emphasis on devotion, reverence, and meditation. The statue form of Buddha is bowed to out of reverence to a teacher and his teachings. It is a symbol of the attainment of enlightenment.

    Temples are for meditation and devotion. Chants are said to bring teachings to mind usually for meditation purposes. What is seen as prayer is a misperception. They are devotional practices. Sounds like a question of semantics or convoluted. The point being is there is not a God or gods as the focus of a prayer. Perhaps those practices or disciplines are seen as not intrusive by an atheist since there are no God or gods.

    1. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Please Google Kwan Yin who is the main goddess of an entire pantheon of bhuddist gods. Gods, temples, monks, prayers, reincarnation, rosary beads, etc. It's a religion bro with Gods.

    2. tsmog profile image80
      tsmogposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I disagree . . .

    3. Ericdierker profile image45
      Ericdierkerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Wow, kind of like a Wiki understanding. Oz I expect more from you. My wife went every day after school where the Buddhist caretakers of the monastery helped her with homework and spiritual stuff -- She had no notion of a God.

    4. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Every encyclopedia and book of any authority ever written by a historian or religious leader classes bhuddism as a religion. Maybe your bhuddist friend was trying to please your friend to get them involved.

  7. profile image55
    Setank Setunkposted 2 years ago

    Buddhism is an interesting play on religious notions. It may be true that Buddha did not want to be worshiped, but he is worshiped by his followers. They ALL pray in front of statues of him yet claim they are only honoring his teachings. Why the idolatry if your not deifying Buddha?
    Regardless of convenient word play, Buddhism is a religion and Buddha is worshiped as a God.

    1. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Of course. Kwan Yin is the main goddess.
      Bhuddists say we are all "sleeping bhuddas" which acknowledges the God like nature of everyone's soul.

    2. cheaptrick profile image73
      cheaptrickposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I may be wrong here (as I often am) but...Isn't the definition of the word Buddha "awakened";that would make"sleeping Buddhas"translate to  'sleeping awakened' ones?I suppose that makes sense but...it seems kinda not right?

    3. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Bhuddists believe that most never quite make it to full enlightenment and remain godlike in heavenly realms or they might return in human form to teach others. It's a religion.
      People are welcome to enjoy it.

  8. Titen-Sxull profile image86
    Titen-Sxullposted 2 years ago

    There does seem to be immunity granted by some Atheists to religions that are either viewed as generally benign or peaceful or religions that are, more or less, atheistic ones. A religion that is grotesquely harmful, such as Catholicism or radical strains of Islam are more likely to get criticized than someone sitting under a tree trying to reach enlightenment.

    A good thing to point out is that while many atheists are skeptics, not all are. There are some atheists who believe in ghosts or alien visitations or psychic powers of some sort. Even the most staunch disbeliever in the Abrahamic faiths might fall prey to some New Age or pseudo-Eastern beliefs if they aren't properly applying skepticism to their beliefs.

    It is very common in the West to assume that very ancient or very foreign beliefs have some sort of enhanced wisdom. The New Age movement wouldn't exist if it weren't for the co-opting of many ideas and beliefs from Eastern and pagan religions. Since so many of these superstitions do not involve a deity they are technically compatible with atheism (though not with skepticism in my opinion).

    It's also important to note that most Atheists were raised in or around one of the big 3 monotheistic religions and therefore their knowledge of religion doesn't extend to Eastern faiths. It may seem difficult or pointless to criticize something you don't know much about and which is half way across the world and appears mostly benign.

    Keep in mind that atheism has no tenants or core beliefs as it is, by definition, a non-belief. So individual atheists are free to hold any beliefs, including superstitious and supernatural ones, as long as they don't include a deity.

    1. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      What you are describing is an Agnostic view.
      Once an atheist admits to having spiritual beliefs in a religion like bhuddism or in supernatural phenomena they have come out as closet agnostics. Atheists don't "do religion" unless they "come out".

    2. Greensleeves Hubs profile image95
      Greensleeves Hubsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      You make many very good and clearly thought out points in your response Titen-Sxull.

    3. RachaelLefler profile image94
      RachaelLeflerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      "It is very common in the West to assume that very ancient or very foreign beliefs have some sort of enhanced wisdom. " Yeah basically.

    4. Titen-Sxull profile image86
      Titen-Sxullposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Many atheists are agnostics. The only supernatural belief you can't have if you're an atheist is a belief in god(s). Unfortunately not all atheists are skeptics or apply their skepticism properly, and thus we get atheists giving Buddhism a free pass.

    5. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Titen
      for the purposes of rational debate it is wise to stick to dictionary meanings. What you are saying is contradictory. Think about: what force is organising all this complex higher Buddhist consciousness and reincarnation etc?

  9. promisem profile image96
    promisemposted 2 years ago

    Atheists dispute the existence of God. Buddhism does not have a God. It is more a practical philosophy of developing a pure mind that is free from suffering.

    Two of the most important and original concepts are the Four Holy Truths and the Eightfold Path. The path:

    Right view
    Right thinking
    Right speech
    Right conduct
    Right livelihood
    Right effort
    Right mindfulness
    Right concentration

    As you can see, it's hard for anyone to argue with that kind of religion.

    1. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Bhuddism has dozens of God's.  If you try to Google "bhuddist deities" you will easily be enlightened about that.

    2. promisem profile image96
      promisemposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Well, now we get into a definition of God versus gods (or deities). As I understand it, deities in Buddhism are human beings with greater spiritual powers than normal humans. They are not the God of Judaism, Islam and Christianity.

    3. Misfit Chick profile image75
      Misfit Chickposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, Buddhist 'worship' (if anything) enlightened teachers who were/are just like us. This is probably the biggest difference. As I was saying in my answer, ALL of those 'holy men' were human & taught the same message: followers deified them late

    4. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Please read about Kwan Yin and the other Buddhist God's who are spiritual beings.
      There is only one God who is the God of both Christianity and Buddhism and all religions practicing compassion and tolerance to other races and religions.

  10. RachaelLefler profile image94
    RachaelLeflerposted 2 years ago

    Maybe they don't truly understand it. Buddhism to the Western atheist is meditation and positive thinking. Maybe throw in a "magic mantra" like the SGI does. Meditation has proven psychological and physical benefits (better sleep, reduced heart rate, steadier breathing, mental alertness, etc.). What they don't get is that in the East, Buddhism involves ritual, worship, and belief in Buddha as a deity, as well as believing in lesser deities like Bodhisatvas. It's not just about meditation and meditative chanting and positive thinking. Basically, there's two Buddhisms. One is the pop psychology version peddled in the West on talk shows and in books, and the other is the real version practiced by mainly old people in Eastern countries, or by immigrants from Eastern countries. They look very different. My family practices SGI Buddhism and I hate it. All they do is believe that chanting "namu-myoho-renge-kyo" a pledge to the Lotus Sutra, is in and of itself magical. This is maddeningly unscientific magical thinking, basically as silly as any other superstition. They also chant selected chapters from the Lotus Sutra twice daily in Japanese. This is supposed to help them "gain victory". But what they don't know or care about is that the Lotus Sutra and other Buddhist scriptures have a complex pantheistic hierarchy of deities, with Buddha being the supreme being. So I don't think you can really call yourself a Buddhist and an atheist, since Buddha is a God. There's no other way to see it. It's a religion. It has good points, but so do many religions. Being good doesn't make them any less of a religion. I think it's just a part of the fascination westerners have for Asian things. That's been going on since the Meiji era, when Japan started exporting goods to Europe, like the Dutch-prized blue-painted porcelain and scroll paintings and other things. People only call Buddhism atheistic because they haven't actually read Buddhist scriptures. Instead of getting it straight from the original source, they're often getting it secondhand from pop psychology bestseller book writing, talk show appearing snake oil salesmen. It's about as authentic as the idea of rubbing the Buddha's belly for good luck in a Chinese restaurant. I also don't know how anyone can believe in karma and reincarnation without a deity. If karma works because there are good and bad actions, then surely there has to be a god deciding what constitutes good and bad, a god who keeps score.

    1. RachaelLefler profile image94
      RachaelLeflerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      If these people went to a real temple and saw real prayers, real rituals, chanting, and bowing before a statue, they would not act like it's SO different from other religions.

    2. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Rachael
      Of course you are correct.
      Atheists crave for some spiritual feelings and they try to change bhuddism into a pop cultural practice to rationalize their yearning for God.

    3. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Greensleeves
      it's your life. By definition Buddhism is a religion with numerous gods. Logic dictates that what you are describing is agnostic not atheist. We can't change the dictionary to suit an argument.

  11. Greensleeves Hubs profile image95
    Greensleeves Hubsposted 2 years ago

    There is a subtle difference between the opening question 'why do many atheists ACCEPT Buddhism?' and the follow-up statement about atheists having a 'WARM SOFT SPOT for Buddhism'. Later in reply to a comment you say 'atheists who like Bhuddism are closet agnostics'.

    Tthere is of course no single view among atheists, but it is possible for atheists to 'like' aspects of a belief system, or have a 'soft spot' for it, without 'accepting' all or any of the mythology. For myself, there are aspects of Christiantity that I like - I've even written a hub about my love of Christmas Carols - and yet I have no belief in God whatsoever.

    I certainly have a soft spot for many Buddhist practices I have witnessed at first hand which are variously calming, charming, pacific and beautiful. In that sense I 'like' Buddhism and the influence it has in the lives of many. That does not make me a closet agnostic. I am atheist.

    I think the appeal of Buddhism is that (although there are exceptions in every religion / philosophy) generally it is probably the most tolerant, least 'pushy' of belief systems. Certainly Buddhists as a general rule, tend to be less dogmatic than, for example, many in the Abrahamic faiths. It seems to be much more about the way one lives one's life, than about the mythology.

    Regarding the issue of belief in God / gods in Buddhism which you raise, that does not have a simple 'yes' or 'no' answer. Some Buddhists believe in a pantheon of gods of greater or lesser power, perhaps reflecting the Hindu origins of Buddha, but others do not believe in any gods. That is almost a side issue - the central focus of the 'religion' or 'philosophy' are the teachings of Buddha, and he is most definitely not worshipped as a God.

    I should say I am at ease with many Christian and some Muslim friends, but of course it is the more fervent and intolerant adherents of those faiths, who are the ones who attract the headlines and are most strident in trying to foist their beliefs on to others. Some have tried to do that to me. On the other hand, I have visited Buddhist Thailand many times, I have close friends who are Buddhist and I have stayed with a Buddhist family. I love visiting Buddhist temples and watching Buddhists at prayer, but none of that makes me a believer in any supernatural events or myths. All my Buddhist friends respect that and understand my thinking, and no one has ever tried to convert me. For all these reasons, I feel more at ease with Buddhism than with other belief systems.

    1. cheaptrick profile image73
      cheaptrickposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      This is,without a doubt,the best answer I've read so far.I would Love to have your depth.All due respect...

    2. Greensleeves Hubs profile image95
      Greensleeves Hubsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you cheaptrick. Much appreciated. smile

    3. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Incorrect.
      Every bhuddist altar has a pantheon of God's. We are all potentially "Bhuddas" or as they say we are sleeping bhuddas. Certain realized beings are said to return to earth as quasi God like beings to teach others. A God of enlightenment.

    4. Greensleeves Hubs profile image95
      Greensleeves Hubsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry - it is not 'incorrect'. As I explained, belief in a God / gods is not absolute in Buddhism. Many do not believe at all. For those who do, the concept is entirely different to Christian concepts of a God, and not central to Buddhist teachings.

    5. RachaelLefler profile image94
      RachaelLeflerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      It may not require you to affirm Buddha as God, but in Buddhist scriptures it's clear that he is a being similar to YHWH, eternal and all-powerful. "Enlightenment" and "righteousness/holiness" are similar concepts. Not so different.

    6. Greensleeves Hubs profile image95
      Greensleeves Hubsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      It is different in that there is no 'all powerful' god of the Christian kind  in Buddhism. requiring worship, and no compulsion for Buddhists to believe in an interactive god.

    7. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Greens levees
      All bhuddist altars in all bhuddist temples have statues of Bhuddist gods and goddesses. These personages are central and are bowed down to and supplicated. Even pop culture atheists use a fat jolly Buddha as their main bhuddist God.

    8. Greensleeves Hubs profile image95
      Greensleeves Hubsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Oztinato all I can suggest is that you look at websites compiled by Buddhists, including teachers and institutions. I can provide the links, but it's difficult in these short exchanges to fully explain Buddhist belief / disbelief in the god concept.

    9. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      It's OK I've studied Buddhism and other religions for years. I don't see Western pop Buddhist ideas as accurately defining Buddhism. I still think it's a good thing for agnostics or atheists to join a religion.
      Who do you say Kwan Yin is?

    10. Greensleeves Hubs profile image95
      Greensleeves Hubsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Oztinato, it's not a good idea for an atheist to join a religion smile You seem to be fixated on Kwan Yin who is just one 'deity' (enlightened being)  very popular in one school of Buddhism (and Taoism) mainly in China. But not comparable to Buddha

    11. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Green
      I mention Kwan Yin to give you a lead into researching bhuddist gods. We both know there are numerous gods and goddesses in bhuddism. All temples have images of deities.

    12. Greensleeves Hubs profile image95
      Greensleeves Hubsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Oztinato, whatever point anyone makes, you just keep repeating the same two or three absolute convictions you have about Buddhism. Tell me, why did you delete my reply to another comment  in which you insisted I was agnostic rather than atheist?

  12. triciajean profile image73
    triciajeanposted 2 years ago

    My husband, who is a sort of Jewish-Buddhist at times, has this to say:  God is for those who don't like the idea of the void.  Buddhism is for those who don't like the idea of God.  I'm sure he is quoting someone but I don't know who.

    Of course, like most of the religions I have examined, Buddhism exists in both its ideal form and degraded forms.  That's where the statues, for example, get confusing.  Is the Buddha remembered with gratitude or worshiped?

    1. RachaelLefler profile image94
      RachaelLeflerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I guess there is a sort of irreligious way to follow the ethical and philosophical teachings of many religious figures like Buddha and Jesus, but that's not the same thing as actually practicing a religion.

    2. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Rachael
      Only to those in denial.
      I welcome them anyway to secretly practice their special religion as everyone needs such spiritual nourishment.

  13. Misfit Chick profile image75
    Misfit Chickposted 2 years ago

    https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/13214087_f260.jpg

    Doesn't everyone have a soft spot for Buddha? Even when I was a Christian, I remember that we were all sure that their beliefs were 'wrong'; but we couldn't really blame them for having them because they are (generally & usually) benign. No Buddhist has ever gone knocking on people's door to convert anyone - plus, they are often so NICE with their peaceful dispositions.

    It should also be noted that Buddha's teachings are beyond twisted and watered down - just like every other ancient holy man. However, it is easier to understand those spiritual principles because they are so much simpler.

    Btw, ALL of the major holy men throughout history taught the same dang thing - which is why all their religions all so similar, and yet slightly different from each other. They were all same basic messages that were freely giving to the audience of their time; and then the same messages were given though another person during another time... and so on. And with each new interpretation of each holy man's teachings - is how humans came up with each different religion. If we could all realize that - there would be nothing to fight over.

    Those things are easy to see once you start unraveling religions. Lord Krishna's religion turned out particularly close to Christianity - and again, slightly different. It is in these simple, repetitive spiritual messages - combined with recent scientific discoveries over the past few decades - that we find the existence of 'God'.

    Buddhists have a very spiritual life without hangups about their God being 'the right' one (as should we all). I think that is a message Atheists just plain 'ol don't have a problem with. They don't mind if other people have spiritual beliefs. It is when people insist that their bent beliefs should be adhered to in places where they don't belong - like government or their doorsteps.

    1. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I mostly agree. However many atheists online have a stubborn stereotype of religion as right wing back woods fundamentalist Christian which is wrong.
      Maybe bhuddism is like the "token" black friend a racist keeps for convenient arguments sake.

  14. lanablackmoor profile image88
    lanablackmoorposted 2 years ago

    Atheism refers to a lack of belief in God, a higher power. The only higher power Buddhists must believe in comes from within. You can call this consciousness and easily define it in spiritual yet non-supernatural terms. It's important to make the distinction between spirituality and religion.

    That and it's possible but much more difficult to twist the tenets of Buddhism into violent religious rhetoric. Buddhism is also not a "power religion," meaning that people in most parts of the world don't face pressure to convert to it or follow its tenets for fear of retribution from its religious sects as they do with other major world religions.

    1. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Try reading up on Kwan Yin one of the main Buddhist Goddesses.

    2. lanablackmoor profile image88
      lanablackmoorposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I think you're confusing the existence of deities in a pantheon with 1), Western conceptions of deity and 2) mandatory worship.

    3. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Lana
      I can assure you I'm not.
      It is well known that Bhuddism has a range of dieties. Also their universal consciousness runs the universe. This is a more refined view of an ultimate God.

  15. M. T. Dremer profile image92
    M. T. Dremerposted 2 years ago

    Buddhism does not have a deity. It teaches personal strength from within. Buddha was someone who reached enlightenment and represents an ideal to strive for, rather than an all-powerful being deserving of worship. For all intents and purposes, Buddhism is an atheist religion.

    It also bears repeating that atheism isn't anti-religion. It isn't even counter-religion, the two aren't mutually exclusive. So long as a religion doesn't require a belief in a god to participate, it can fit with atheism.

    1. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Buddhism is full of deities. Read up on Kwan Yin for example.
      These many gods and goddesses reside in a Heavenly realm never quite reaching complete merging like a math asymptote constantly approaching zero but never reaching it.

  16. Icankbelandean profile image62
    Icankbelandeanposted 2 years ago

    Hi Oztinanto..The New Age movement wouldn't exist if it weren't for the co opting of many ideas and beliefs from eastern and pagan religions.

    1. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I agree. Science also Co opts many ancient practices. Eg so called entanglement in physics was practiced by Neanderthal and early humans as "Sympathetic magic".
      Inoculation was used by ancient cultures etc

  17. MichaelMcNabb profile image76
    MichaelMcNabbposted 2 years ago

    There is a difference between Buddhism and other religions.  The temples are serene quite places where one can meditate within their own mind.  Meditation like deep prayer is proven to have positive effects on the mind and human soul (State of being).  Chants are ways to focus one's energy on a single state or perhaps goal.  Reincarnation is a religious belief that does not belong in pure Buddhism.  I would suspect that belief belongs to the Hindu faith which is a religion often confused with Buddhism because the vast majority of Hindu also follow the practice of Buddhism.  Kind of like how people confuse Christianity with Catholic.

    I hope that I did an okay job of trying to make sense of the confusion.  I am not a Buddhist and am going off of the information I learned in High School social studies nearly a quarter of a century ago.

    1. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Reincarnation is a central precept of bhuddism. Their temples have altars with their main gods as statues etc. It's a religion with numerous gods and goddesses.

    2. MichaelMcNabb profile image76
      MichaelMcNabbposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      One of the Buddhist gods is called Jesus.  He is the god of all Christian Buddhists.  I don't think Christian Buddhists consider Buddha to be a god and they likely don't worship other gods.  You bring your religion with you into Buddhism .

  18. profile image0
    PeterStipposted 2 years ago

    Buddhism is a religion.Full stop. Buddhism believes in reincarnation, something you can not proof with hard facts and is pure believe. I had many discussions about this point.
    There are also many different faction in  Buddhism itself. As an atheist reincarnation ssounds to me like astrology or the believe in God/gods in whatever form.
    The Buddhsist I know, and they are good friends of mine all have a religious background, may it be Catholic or Jewish. It would be interesting to do some research as to see what the background is of most Buddhists, I doubt it many where Atheists before but I could be wrong.
    As an atheist I accept Buddhism just as I accept Islam or Christianity. Religion is a part of human history and society. It looks to me stupid though that all those religions claim to have the answer about life, the universe and everything else....

    1. Oztinato profile image50
      Oztinatoposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Yes of course it's a religion. This is a truism. I appreciate you saying that religion is a part of history and society as it's rare to hear an atheist say that. All culture is linked to religion.

Closed to reply
 
working

This website uses cookies

As a user in the EEA, your approval is needed on a few things. To provide a better website experience, hubpages.com uses cookies (and other similar technologies) and may collect, process, and share personal data. Please choose which areas of our service you consent to our doing so.

For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at: https://hubpages.com/privacy-policy#gdpr

Show Details
Necessary
HubPages Device IDThis is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons.
LoginThis is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service.
Google RecaptchaThis is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy)
AkismetThis is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Traffic PixelThis is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized.
Amazon Web ServicesThis is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy)
CloudflareThis is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy)
Google Hosted LibrariesJavascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the googleapis.com or gstatic.com domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy)
Features
Google Custom SearchThis is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy)
Google MapsSome articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
Google ChartsThis is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy)
Google AdSense Host APIThis service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Google YouTubeSome articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
VimeoSome articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
PaypalThis is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook LoginYou can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
MavenThis supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy)
Marketing
Google AdSenseThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Google DoubleClickGoogle provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Index ExchangeThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
SovrnThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook AdsThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Unified Ad MarketplaceThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
AppNexusThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
OpenxThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Rubicon ProjectThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
TripleLiftThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Say MediaWe partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy)
Remarketing PixelsWe may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites.
Conversion Tracking PixelsWe may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service.
Statistics
Author Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy)
ComscoreComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Tracking PixelSome articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy)