What is the holy grail?

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   Cagsilposted 14 years ago

   Hey Hubberville,
   
   I know this sounds like a really foolish question to ask, but I want different people's take on it.
   
   What is the Holy Grail?
   
   Now- those who know about religion "holy" would be divine. And, "Grail" is a metaphor? Used throughout religion.
   
   One rumor is that it is simply a Cup, for which, Jesus drank at the Last Supper.
   
   Other rumors have floated around about it, but I'm not going to bring them. But, they do have one common element between, all of them, and has to do with Jesus and Immortality.
   
   In my own studies, I've come to understand the "Grail" is a metaphor, out of context. The Grail is that which can produce or give life.
   
   With that understanding, then the Grail is a Woman vagina.
   
   Man can eat it.
   Man can drink from it.
   Man can become immortal by it, because it keeps him and him memory alive, via his family.
   
   The Eternal Life of the Grail.
   
   But, please do let me know your thoughts. You have your opinions, and I respect.
   
   Thank you for your time.
   
   Cagsil

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      Mikel G Robertsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      http://www.nationalgeographic.com/histo … 5Qodrxrk1Q

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         Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Did I ask for links? I think not. But, thank you for your input.

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            Mikel G Robertsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            you asked for opinions I think that link describes my opinion nicely...if you dont want the answer dont ask the question.

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      RainySunshineposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      -Looks down- (cringes) I can't get to my Holy Grail! Unfair!

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      Christopher Floydposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Spiritually, I think the Grail is irrelevant.  I heard it was the cup Christ drank vinegar from on the cross.  Also heard it later caught his blood.  Whatever it was - if it was - I don't think it would have been preserved.  Copied and sold by the church as a holy relic in the middle ages, sure. But otherwise not of consequence.

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   Milla Mahnoposted 14 years ago

   LOLOLO This one I like much better
   
   It does make me holier, right?

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      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      It only makes sense. But, I'm glad you had a good laugh.

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         Milla Mahnoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I remember Dan Brown had his own version of it in Da Vinci Code, but I frankly don't remember what was it, exactly...

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            Mikel G Robertsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            The da vinci code said the grail was the vagina, the source of human birth. V and the male half was the penis symbolized as a chevron (an upside down V).

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               Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Thank you, since I've not seen the movie.

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               Milla Mahnoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Cool, so we have at least two great minds agreeing on the idea. Gives it more merit, right?

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                  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Who are you agreeing with?

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            Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I couldn't sit thru the movie. I didn't care for it, because it deals too much in secret societies. And not enough on the lies of the church.

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               Milla Mahnoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Actually I even did not try to see the movie. I read the book

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                  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  I'm not sure I want to put the effort into reading the book.

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                     Milla Mahnoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Oh, it's no doubt readable and quite entertaining.
                     
                     And I am not agreeing with anybody, I am neutral on the issue, albeit your version is flattering to any girl. I meant you and Dan Brown agree on this

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                        Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Oh okay.

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   The Ropeposted 14 years ago

   :  :  Sorry I refuse to be baited on this one but I can't wait to see where it leads!

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      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I bait no one.
      
      Just want opinions on what people think their religious belief leads them to?
      
      And, I'm sorry The Rope, that you feel like I would purposely bait you.

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         The Ropeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Please Cagsil accept my apologies.  I am very sorry.  It was my feeble attempt at humor since I couldn't personally respond to the holy grail and a metaphor with a woman's vagina.  Still can't wait to see this topic unfold.

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            Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            No problem. Believe it or not, this topic really cannot go anywhere. I've simply stated my case of understanding I would apply to it, if I had thought of the grail? And, it's meaning.
            
            Others can say whatever they choose and I'm sure they will.

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   thevoiceposted 14 years ago

   You are the living holy grail birth right of God Jesus the holy spirit check human holy scriptures of all religions. God is human holy DNA holy blood of Jesus lives in us all. You truly are God human grail birth right as are all human life of God

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   A Texanposted 14 years ago

   "With that understanding, then the Grail is a Woman vagina."
   
   As opposed to the man's vagina?

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      Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah, men vaginas are unholy
      
      Welcome back Tex

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         A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Mangina is not good. Thanks Misha, I wonder how long it takes the snitches to start snitching?

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            Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Time will tell

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               A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Yep!

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         Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         

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            wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            un
            hole
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            RE the DaVinci code:
            For the readers, not the movie watchers:
            
            There is a code in the book description, on the inside front and back of the jacket. I don't know if the paperback printing has it, I only have the hard cover.
            I thought I had found a typo when I was reading it. Then, I found another typo. Then, I realized it was a hidden message.
            My mom was visiting, so she and I sat down and figured it out. 

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               Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               And, what did you come up with?

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                  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Should I say? Or should I let it be a mystery?

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                     Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Well, ultimately it is up to you, so I won't say anything more about it. But, subject change- how are you doing today?

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                        wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        hmm. Well, what are the odds that somebody actually has a hard cover copy of the book, with the dust jacket still on it, and decides to find the answer?
                        Pretty slim I think..
                        
                        <<spoiler alert>>
                        The code on the dust jacket spells out: "Is there no help for the widow's son?"
                        I'll let you google the meaning. (hint: mix mormons with freemasons)
                        
                        so anyway, i'm good. just wrapping a few things up, then gonna crawl into bed.
                        You?

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                           Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           Not much. Interesting little tid-bit you have there. I published a new hub today, it was a question asked by another Hubber. Ohma asked me to give insight on what I thought of an article. I included the link in the Hub, so people can learn about it. I wasn't exactly sure to take it, but did what I could.

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                              wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              I saw that - not the hub, but the question portion. I'll check it out tomorrow, I'm curious myself

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                                 Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                 No problem, Whenever you choose or not. I just found it intriguing.

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      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for pointing out the obvious. You seem to be pretty good at that.

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         A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         You're very welcome, anything else I can do for you?

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   sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

   .....................WOW!...................Really!.............Thats a huge jump from a cup to a hoohoo!

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      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      So, you take the "grail" metaphor as being a cup?

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   earnestshubposted 14 years ago

   For a truthful understanding of the holy grail, you would need to refer to the appropriate Simpsons episode to answer this as with all these deep and meaning-full questions!

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      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      HaHa? Simpson?DOH!
      
      What's up Earnest? How are you?

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         earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Hiya Cagsil! Sorting out my son's insurance claim. Someone ran in to his parked car! I am good thank you! Yourself?

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            Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Not bad. Sorry to hear about the car. My sister had her car totaled by her insurance company. She bought a new car.

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   melporposted 14 years ago

   The Holy Grail is the cup Jesus supposedly had drank from during the Last Supper.

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      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      There is nothing else to it. It's just a cup which he drank from?

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   Niteriterposted 14 years ago

   Sorry about the car, earnest. I was having trouble controlling my hovercraft.

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      earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yeh I know.... ya get that.

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    Rod Marsdenposted 14 years ago

    There's Dan Brown's notion of what the holy grail might be and I suppose it is as valid in its own way as any other.
    
    It can be noted, however, that in the British Isles the quest for the holy grail or something similar to it predates Christianity. There are Celtic elements to some of the earliest tales dealing with the holy grail.

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       Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Thank you Rod.

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          iantoPFposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I'd like to add my bit to this. I've even considered doing a hub on it.
          Joseph of Arimathea is said to have brought the cup that jesus drank out of as well as the spear that pierced his side, to the British Isles.
          According to the later tales of Arthur, his knights set out on a quest to find it. That's the traditional idea that developed  when legends of Celtic warlords were transformed into tales of christian knights. Much older Welsh legends tell of Arthur and his companions entering Annwn, the world of the dead, they brave seven castles in their quest to bring into the mortal world the Cauldron of Rebirth.
          To the celtic mind the grail is one of the three sacred Cauldrons that pre-date christianity.

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             Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Thank you for sharing.

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    tantrumposted 14 years ago

    During the time of Jesus, sex was not a taboo. Jesus, being a healthy male , and I think not gay, had 'known' a lot of women at the time.
    Some historians suppose he had sex with Mary Magdalen and had children with her.
    When Jesus was arrested and condemned to death, Mary Magdalen, went away with her children.
    At some stage, before the middle ages, the descendants arrived to France and stayed there.
    The grail, comes from the French  phrase 'sang royal', which means royal blood.
    It's supposed that the Grail is only a code name for the descendants of Jesus.
    Just a theory, the Templars hold as a secret for many years.
    
    Of all the theories, this is the one I like best.
    Not that I believe in it. But it appeals to me.

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       Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I think you oversimplify. Just re-read the OT - or it's original, Torah.

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          tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          One thing is what the scriptures say and other is what people really do.
          Or are you going to tell me that all tha Christians nowadays arrive virgin to marriage ?
          Or that everybody follow the 10 commandements ?

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             Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Isn't it a taboo to break 10 commandments? Wasn't it a taboo to not be a virgin when marry just say a 100 years ago? And still pretty much in effect for many religious families?
             
             I am not saying that nobody had sex back in those days, I am saying that based on the literature evidence we have, it likely was even more of a taboo then nowadays - among Jews.

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                tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                . Jesus was a revolutionary. He was trying to change things. I don't remember Jesus saying sex was wrong.
                So I don't believe he followed what the Sanedrin told people to do.

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                   tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   and anyway we're talking about theories here.
                   And this is my theory.
                   You don't like it, it's OK with me
                   I'm getting bored with this kind of foolish arguments.
                   It's only a theory.

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       Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Thank you. I remember reading about what you've posted. It was a nice refresher course. I'm glad something appeals to you.

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    awareposted 14 years ago

    a monty python movie

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    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    LOL Sorry I intervened.
    
    *crawling back to his burrow in horror*

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    tantrumposted 14 years ago

    It appeals me more than your statement  saying you're glad that something appeals to me.
    Thank you !

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       Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Why can't I be glad that something appeals to you? It only means that you gave what I said, more just a passing thought to be dismissed. You mused yourself in the thought. That is what I am glad for. It wasn't meant to be insult.

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          tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I didn't take as an insult. How can that comment be an insult ?
          
          I found it funny! It sounded as you think  I'm not capable of finding appeal in anything.
          
          It looks like everybody's so touchy about insults lately. It must be the lack of freedom of speech.
          Nobody's genuine anymore.
          and I'm getting bored.

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