Destiny

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  1. lovetherain profile image80
    lovetherainposted 9 months ago

    Do you believe in fate/destiny? is EVERYTHING predetermined, or only some things?

    1. wilderness profile image97
      wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Nothing is predetermined.  Some events/actions have a greater probability that others do (you probably won't have Mars fall on your roof), but nothing is certain.  Although a tad unlikely (big_smile) your brain may be transplanted into a mechanical structure and you get to see the death of the universe!

      1. lovetherain profile image80
        lovetherainposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Do you believe we have free will?

        1. wilderness profile image97
          wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          Something decides whether we salt our coffee in the morning and it isn't predestination.  That pretty much leaves free will.

          No, we are not constrained to act in a specific manner by a record of a future that has not happened.  Free will rules!

          1. Jessie L Watson profile image95
            Jessie L Watsonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Who on earth salts their coffee?

            1. lovetherain profile image80
              lovetherainposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              LOL that's what I was wondering

            2. wilderness profile image97
              wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              lol  It caught attention, didn't it?

    2. Live to Learn profile image78
      Live to Learnposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      I believe in both. I think, you have free will but when presented with choice the one destined to play out in this universe plays out here. I like the thought of a me somewhere in the multiverse benefiting from the best option that could have been chosen in every one of the scenarios presented during my lifetime.

      1. wilderness profile image97
        wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Then the future is set, immutable and unchangeable.  Nothing you can do will make a difference, nothing can ever change.  You may as well whatever your instant fancies would like to see because you can neither change anything nor make any difference.

        Nasty thought, isn't it, but also the necessary corollary to destiny and a fixed future.

        1. Live to Learn profile image78
          Live to Learnposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          Fixed? Not really, and just so. With infinite universes and infinite choices, if we are individually connected throughout all, what purpose  could be served? Can you imagine not only having infinite choice, but also the ability to see each to its ultimate conclusion? The amount of personal growth and wisdom attainable is mind boggling. Free will to impose destiny,in order to learn.

          1. wilderness profile image97
            wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Sounds more like a semantics problem in communication than anything else.  If you are "destined" for something then that something WILL happen regardless of what other actions you might take.  "Destiny" and free will cannot therefore both be possible as free will changes destiny.

            Example: You are destined to marry Joe Swizzlestick, and he you.  You are even engaged, with a date set only a month away.  Destiny will be served!...except you choose to go skiing this weekend, choose the wrong hill to come down and choose the wrong way to turn.  You run into a tree and are killed; neither your destiny nor Joe's will ever happen.  Free will changed both.

            On the other hand, if destiny is a fact then one of your choices never happened; you didn't go skiing, didn't choose the wrong hill or didn't make the wrong choice in turning.  You could never have had the free will to do all of those things because destiny requires you marry Joe and those choices make it impossible.

            1. Live to Learn profile image78
              Live to Learnposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              You forget that all choices play out.

              1. wilderness profile image97
                wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                All choices play out of course...but not to a pre-ordained conclusion.  The conclusion depends on the choices being made, not the other way around.  The culmination of all choices made determine the final result rather than than "destiny" determining what choices will be made.

                That's how I see it, anyway.  "Destiny" is but a myth, for final destiny cannot be determined until it actually happens.  The future is a matter of probabilities and "destiny" indicates a 100% probability.  Not 99.999999, but 100%.  In MY world of definitions, anyway! big_smile

                1. Live to Learn profile image78
                  Live to Learnposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  Makes sense. If we limit the conversation to quite a few assumptions. Which is fine. If we include one assumption, the possibilities become infinite.

                  1. wilderness profile image97
                    wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    Well, not quite infinite.  There are a limited number of particles in the universe, a limited amount of energy and a limited number of directions, after all.  But certainly a very high number!  Couldn't begin to express it in terms of exponents of exponents of exponents! smile

  2. radhapriestess profile image44
    radhapriestessposted 9 months ago

    I think that some things are part of your destiny, but other things are your free will choice. I have experience both situations in my life. I do not think that one aspect negates the other. I think both are true.

    1. lovetherain profile image80
      lovetherainposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      I agree.

  3. Jessie L Watson profile image95
    Jessie L Watsonposted 9 months ago

    I feel like that's the same question as to whether or not we possess free will. There are many constraints on free will. There is also an infinite regress of cause and effect. I think one of the distinctions between biologically determined organisms and people is that people have the capacity to transcend their biology to some degree. We have the power of retrospect. We also have the power of prospect. The moment mankind became self-aware is the moment mankind developed a relationship with the past, present, and future. This gave us an evolutionary tool, unlike anything we've ever seen in nature.

  4. Girl24Queen profile image61
    Girl24Queenposted 9 months ago

    Yeah, I believe in fate and destiny after all you choose it.

 
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