Fear runs the world as Religion is based on Fear.
I respect and accept Religion, certainly don't understand them, as they don't accept me. Being fearless myself can be a bitch, yet rather be honest and harmless.
I watched politics and religion meld into one” Nearly half of 76 counties are Christians nation made gays illegal. Fear of a difference kind of love. A cannabis plant is made illegal
In every Country but one. It is the most productive plant in the world as christains fear nature too. They made it a sin with strong political ties to lawmakers, accomplished through political lobbying and coercion. Since high office is a stacked deck of Christians and Jews. They create ghost monsters to distract us from reality and freedom.
I say practice disobidience when it comes to war or unnatural laws. Be brave, if you want integrity, to be truly civil and ethical. Connect the backbone with the brain.
It not the words, study their behavior as hypocrite's.
Your thought"I say practice disobidience when it comes to war or unnatural laws."
What does this mean? Are you advocating ignoring any laws made by man, following only those made by nature (which are impossible to refuse to follow)? Or to ignore/refuse to follow any laws you don't like - anything you choose to label "Unnatural"?My Religion is Nature, all our healthiest needs is made from it. Not from Banksters printed and digital money and their mafia NWO Corporatecracy, the worst in modern history .
Civil disobedience have turn the vast majority into modern slavery. Wail 1% merged into 83℅ of the stock using artificial intelligence who make the laws twizingby everything in their favor destroying competition all that is natural law. Banks make digital money and 3℅ is cash made from nothing. Producing only debt, wild inflation and destruction of everyone future's. These are not man-made laws these are monstrous myths. Like the American dream, you have to be asleep to experience it. Or be a member of their club.
Practice disobidience to them. Or the Alway win the rest looses. When you end up in a world war, their most profitable business again. People loose again.
You know the difference between people's ethics and decency vs their greed. Synthetic vs natural.
Check on Zeitgeist on YouTube PeterJoseph, explain it very well.That's nice that religion is your nature. But the question was what does "unnatural law" mean.
At the root, nearly all people seem to have a propensity to create laws others must follow; a reasonable conclusion might be that all man made laws are "natural" because it is natural for humans to wish to control others. So what is an "unnatural law"?I no longer follow Unnatural law preformed by Goverment that are in the same bed with Corperationism.
They proform scarcity like oil and fossil fuels rather than unlimited wind, solar, wave, geothermal, and biomass energy.
Also using machine for wealthy, wail the people have lack of machines to assist themselves. We have destroyed farming with Monsanto, yet can recover by machine eco farming.
The fear is if people become economically and life successful, it will cause out of control over population....Not true, look at the over population poorest countries. More people power and more mass efficientcy, means less population.
While government & world leaders pretend to be sustainability, it's a huge lie. Tons of Unnatural Law provides extensive evidence to refute their claims. Always at a great cost of unbalance of cultures values and Environmental laws, protecting water, air, land, and biodiversity. This over consumerism of synthetic junk, lowers our health and dumbs us down, this is not and never will work.
Natural laws meaning environmental laws like global warming, ozone depletion, protected areas, air and water pollution. The river I use to swim and fish in, is nothing but a smelly open sewage, that sewer rats won't swim in. The root cause of environmental degradation is government and Banker's. When we closed them down tomorrow, we can advance life and civilization.
To ultimately concludes a people nations must implement natural ways in order to respond to the ecological imperative of living within the Earth’s unlimited resources rather than its limits.Then unnatural laws are any laws that allow humans to use any of the earth's resources? Things like food, water, minerals, elements, etc.? Plus, somehow, anything to do with banks - humans must be limited to bartering chickens for shoes, etc.
Or is it "natural" when YOU wish to use those things - the things you don't like are "unnatural"?I guess you could call plastic, that comes out of mother earth, natural or like her children.
It is unnatural and unlawful to cause harm to the balance of the earth plants , animals and humans. Trump, Corperationism, and or stupid sheep like Religion generally cause more harm than good.
There is no democracy or compassion, just the world is a bussiness. Trump attack bombing eight needs no approval from Congress, the UN or international law or American, It's just wealthy business as lawless usual.
When the majority (so called normal) live within their box. They may fix the cracks or holes within their box. Outside the box they have very little idea of the destruction for great lack of research, work, love of humanity and nature. As they are too busy fixing their tiny box, until their roof collapses in."It is unnatural and unlawful to cause harm to the balance of the earth plants , animals and humans."
And yet people (which are "natural" creatures) and other animals do it all the time, as does the earth itself, - it is part of natural processes that have gone on since time immemorial. Think of the pine bark beetle in the pacific NW that destroyed whole forests and the ecosystem of those forests. The thorn of crowns starfish on the Great Barrier Reef destroying the reef that is home to countless species. Go back far enough and consider stromalites which changed the entire atmosphere to a reducing one full of virulent oxygen. Volcanoes in Hawaii creating miles and miles of barren, lifeless landscape. The dinosaur killer which wiped out 99% or all life on the planet.
I don't see any of those as either "unlawful" OR "unnatural". The history of this great ball of dirt is chock full of tremendous, world wide and localized, events "causing harm to the balance of the earth plants, animals and humans".
Religion was instituted to instill fear into gullible people. It has also been instituted to control those gullible people. Religion wants powerless, uneducated people to manipulate. Religion is for the psychologically naïve & immature. People who are fully conscious, educated, & mature have no need for religion.
If you have ever notice religious people, they have an emotional immaturity. They are afraid of independent thought & action. They want religious parents via authority figures to "guide" & "take care" of them. They are apprehensive of being true adults. Remember that Karl Marx stated that religion is the opiate of the people. Many religious people view religion as an elixir & escape. They see the world as an evil place & view religion as the solution.Yes, emotional immaturity. An over focus on emotional response rather than seeking the source of the problems that comes from the mind. A healthy balance of IQ and emotions give you something stronger, an EIQ.
Fear is base on the unknowns. When I study natures laws or patterns. I don't fear rather know the dangers to control the dangers.
When Religion closes their minds to explore Spiritual or just unknowns. They become very frighten men. Making them very dangerous m en.
If you respect and accept, but certainly don’t understand those ABRAHAMIC religions: Chrystianity, Judaism, Islam, why don’t you spent some time to research their beginning, to find out where and when things went wrong.
99% of those 'religious' people are ignorants, they have no idea what was the origin of their religion, they ignore the history, that’s why can be so easy manipulated by their corrupted leaders.
BTW, do you know what was the beginning of those three ABRAHAMIC religions ?
People here rather work the source of issues around Trump rather than question the source of many great problems.
The source of problems is in our minds, not Trump. Sure Trump is leading many of you down the rose garden path of One World Religion, nuclear race, and UN will come around to Trump's NWO. It will all fail in the house of cards. Sad to see suffering continue to get worst, as too many rally around him.Albert Einstein quoted.
Religion is blind and science is lame.
It seems the vas majority of people have taken the blue pill of delusion. The people who have taken the red pill of reality, are too lame or fearful to do anything.
The NWO who have tooled Religion, have won. Now it's all the mopping up.
I for one, will not be mopped up.I'm not sure where you are coming from when you say that NWO is religion-based. A new world order is the thing the Christians fear the most because they believe it comes from the anti-Christ and Satan. Or at least that's what my Baptist Church in my childhood taught. I'm not sure what they are teaching today because I left the church many years ago to pursue some independent thinking away from Judeo-Christianity.
I take issue with your statement: "Sure Trump is leading many of you down the rose garden path of One World Religion, nuclear race, and UN will come around to Trump's NWO." I am NOT a Trump supporter, so I'm not defending him; I think you have it reversed. Trump is advocating, or has advocated, isolation for the U.S. that contains a self-serving view of the world. He is trying to practice a supremacy of the U.S. (make America great again), which does not fit in with the globalism of a NWO. He criticizes the previous presidents for allowing allowing trade practices that he sees as unfair to the U.S. His tariffs and trade wars are an example of that. I am NOT a Trump supporter, so I'm not defending him; I think you have it reversed.
I don't know where you are getting your reversed view of what the U.S. president is up to, but I think any U.S. citizen will tell you that it is incorrect. Trump does not want a NWO because that would limit his power, and he is NOT a religious man. He really wants to be a dictator and would go for a NWO only if he could rule over it. He actually uses the word "reign" to describe his presidency. The U.S. president does not "reign," the president "serves a term" but he has not yet come to this realization. You are welcome to your opinion, but you really need to study U.S. politics a little more.Personal God Religion came first, then merged with Military, NWO and politics from 1000 or1000s of years ago. NWO wants to Centro everything, Banks, Religion, military, Politics, food, water and your soul.
Call NWO Satanism, it's in bed with your Personal God Yahweh, not with non- believers. So your only fighting with yourselves :Christian/judeo; as you must fear your God and want everyone esle also.. Fear is not the same as respect, it stands more for bully. Your in a good direction with independent thinking. A much better way to advance yourself and others.
Trump is a puppet like the rest of the
Presidents for Corperationism NWO. When was America ever great for non-whites in America. Trump fooled Americans hugely, he personally deals with Rothschilds and Rockefellers as the Front man, He has no other choice because he owes these devils big time.
Them being Religious and the way they use Religious scripted to be twisted again, is smoke and mirrors. Greedy Money and power is their God. That fits in with the globalisms. Sure most sheep will tell me, I am wrong.
Too much tariffs and trade wars were the main reason for the American depression and Closest for NWO to owned the World.
I know enough about federal Politics to see how it should be abolish the way it is now. There are much better Idea's from the Power of the People, not from some other imperial king.
Wilderness
Knowing justice, it dose not work for us or in nature. The cougar eats the coyote and the coyote eats the rabbit and so on.
There is laws of survival, like animals who eat their sick young or for food. It troops can't eat their enemies, they are part of the balance. If not, they are worst than parasites or cockroaches gone insane, Without greater intelligence Earthlings guilding them a long.
A few elitists Human's are allowed to kill for no purpose and pure horribly wastefulness of all creatures. By majority ethical rule we know this breaks the nature rules. Because of the fear of these monstrous destroyers of the earth. the majority of people act like frighten sheep. Sheep will walk off a cliff or they will follow the leader sheep into a volcano. Much like American troops following exis of evil Government into illegal, unconstitutional, unethical and ultimately hell on earth wars. Just tell your enemies they are demons, then it's easy to kill your fellow man.
I can teach much happier and stronger survival rules or guildlines. To be a kind realistic man rather than to be a sheep or wolves in sheep clothing or foxes guarding hen house's. Or clowns pissing on us and telling us it's raining. I hope Trump is dumb enough, in order not to be able to punch in the nuclear codes numbers.Have you watched the video of a pod of killer whales attacking a humpback mother with calf? They finally killed it (after a long time playing around), ate the tongue (apparently prime taste) and left. The rest of the carcass was left to rot. Wolves are known to sometimes kill for fun, and so are other animals.
The point is that declaring that "unnatural" laws should not be followed, when you and you alone get to determine what is "unnatural" based only one your feelings of the moment without rhyme or reason, isn't going to work. You aren't God and don't get to make the laws for everyone. It is as silly as declaring that humans are not "natural" somehow - not a part of nature - and therefore should not behave as nature made them to be.
(And no, Trump has nothing to do with the question of what is, and what is not, an "unnatural" law).You mean all the suffering, torture, killing of millions of women and children over in the middle East is all for fun?
I say, it"s all for greed and majority of sheep allow it. My work is to advance love and happiness, not suffering and fear.
My work will advance healthy humans and forget all the horrible programing by Corperatcracy for survival and suffering.
The majority is capable of thriving for happiness.
In Bolivia they had many years of water wars until the native people over threw the Government. The world Bank tried own all water including the rain water. That would kill the vast majority who could not afford water. If, that is not unnatural, than these Banks come from planet Hell, not earth. They can't go back to Hell because they destroyed that planet also. Places like parts of old Russia, and rented militarily assassin in eastern block countries. They can no longer keep winning, they fear too and these criminals are on the run again."You mean all the suffering, torture, killing of millions of women and children over in the middle East is all for fun?"
You might mean that: I don't. What I do mean is that man, just like every other animal, is competitive in living and reproducing. Man, just like every other animal, will do what is necessary to do those things, and will do a great deal for an easier life...just like every other animal. It is foolish to deny what we are.
I am what I think, instinct is secondary. Closest thing to God like is our imagination. Killing is like in 90℅ of wars and murder is a mental illness. Other words a source of bad intentions or bad imagination or low energy or lack of collective consciousness. Whatever you want to call it. America once was a world leader in education and now ranked 42nd, Also ranked Happiness low and health care low. Many negative things in America that leads. Like centralize groups, wars, prisons, modern slavery, physical obesity, media Obesity and so on. America has sacrifices high values and beautiful cultures in exchange for a monsterious destoyer elite you don't care if you live or die.
hey how bout they stop being dogs and let the animals live let alone they have there rights to live on this earth.
Religion is based upon fear & subjugation. These two components cannot exist without each other. The first tool of religion is to instill fear. Then after that fear is instilled, then proceeds subjugation. However, it is the uneducated who is afraid & then the subjugation cements the fear. Religion is a game to keep people stupid & powerless. Smart, educated people aren't religious, remember that! Also affluent people aren't religious. It is the POOR & UNEDUCATED who are religious. Religion is an elixir for the poor & uneducated among us. Why do you think that poor & uneducated people have the LARGEST families?
Look how they are a really nice and very happy family. That is how heaven is, extremely happy, like a funny farm and their eyes in a glaze and feeling warm and fuzzy.
Talking to gun and military people is like talking to the Religious, facts are like 2+2 =5. They see nothing wrong or conflicting in their beliefs or practice, they are deeply programed well. Fear is the unknowns, the unknowns of ghost terrorist in the news everyday. Fear of end of the earth, fear of God, Satan and the little old lady who lived in the shoe, story.
"I respect and accept Religion, ..."
No you don't. Why post this nonsense, and then go on to bash it? lol.
"It not the words, study their behavior as hypocrite's."
Indeed.An atheist told me to stop sitting on the fence. I said, I'm a lover not a fighter. With in my lifetime, the largest group of people will be non religious people, as the world will charge it's self, like it or not. Finally after 1000s of years of living in the pass. Science or new ways of thinking has doubled our life expectancy in the last 150 years, it could do it again.
I respect people as bio -organism first. Then respect people as individuals and all species.
When most of the world population is Religious, I must respect and have this get along attitude. When religions have too much concern for war, and greatly disrespect the natural environment and most earthlings. Then we have a great disagreement. I will try to understand it, then end up greatly disagreeing, yet not disrespecting their miss guidance or ignorance history of over obedience over a wrongly translated book of the be all and end all.Which book? The Quran? The Bhagavad Gita? The Zohar?
You're too vague, and this sounds like ranting, not actual coherent thought. I'm sure you could write a great rebuttal, but not like this. Your thoughts jump around and you don't transition from topic to topic very well.How can I be so vague, about the book of universal truth and knowledge? Your God has all the answers and commandments to follow. Because If you don't follow, he has special place for you to burn and be tortured forever, because he loves you and needs money.
Take any monotheistic Religion.Judaism is one of the oldest monotheistic religions in the world. God in Judaism is strictly monotheistic, an absolute one, indivisible, and incomparable being who is the ultimate cause of all existence. When you have all these Religion fighting for one world Religion, you end up with the largest group of killers like Christain in the history of mankind. I can not be part of any group that's so unethical, hippocrites, conflicting, contradicting and world champion of BS story telling. I'm happiest staying with my plan that works (that God would laugh at) of ultimate rule of no harm and be honest, making me fearless of all these fearful BULLY Gods.
I have not prevail to explain to a hard christain. The balance of natural environment or about most of the great individual men throughout history, who are not onesided. Plus individual advancing mankind greater than any group. Rather than being advanced by groups religious/politicans/military leading terrorism poverty and destruction and earthlings. I much rather have a green environment of natural law vs. a synthetic world of heirachary greed.Judaism is one of the oldest, but not the oldest of monotheistic religions.
And Bible is not a book, but collection of books.
The oldest book the Bible is The Book of Job. This book is the closest to the Covenant between God and Abraham - the suppose origin of the three monotheistic religions.
The Book of Job is at least 500 years older then Judaistic religion, which originated in the time of David and Salomon, around 1000 BC.
Have you ever look closely, researched the Book of Job ?
ABRAHAMIC religions.
They have more contradiction, conflicts, and more wars with each other. Than any combination groups in the world history. Why would I want to join the greatest unethical hell on earth.I’m not asking you to join, just to get interested in the oldest book of the Bible, which in fact is not religious one.
Although deeply spiritual the book of Job is not a religious one; there is no mention made of institution of Israel, whether temple, monarchy, prophets or priesthood, what indicates the time of the patriarchs.
If you go to the roots of those religions, you’ll notice that the Covenant idea wasn’t bad at all, someone just messed up. But who, and when ?
Religion is evolving. It can evolve. Fundamentalism or any extreme form of thought has huge problems. Atheism is far worse as it has no ethical spine. https://hubpages.com/religion-philosoph … -Hypocrisy
Hey right, Religion is advancing.
Like the Pope who believe in the big bang, evolution, animals go to heaven and Aliens are our Saviors.
Tells Trump is not a Christian. Maybe at least the Pope is evolving.If you look at the values of Job, and his religion (Job was the fifth generation from Abraham), values like those:
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“29
If I have rejoiced at my enemy’s misfortune
or gloated over the trouble that came to him—
30
I have not allowed my mouth to sin
by invoking a curse against their life—
31
if those of my household have never said,
‘Who has not been filled with Job’s meat?’—
32
but no stranger had to spend the night in the street,
for my door was always open to the traveler ... “
Job 31
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s … ersion=NIV
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and compare them to what is happening in the Judo-Christian world, on the streets of Vancouver / Canada, where Homelessness Increased by 40% since 2011, One-third of these individuals were unsheltered,
http://www.metrovancouver.org/services/ … inland.pdf
then it makes you think:
is the ABRAHAMIC religion 'evolving', or rather 'degrading'.What good is a lesson from God taking Job through great suffering. Just to prove to Satan, Job has faith in God, no matter what. I would kill God, if he tried to kill my child. Too many fearing and senseless stories like this.
Judeo/ Christians are world champion of contradiction, conflict, murder and BS stories outside of Hollywood. Many stories are ripped offs and copy cat, from the world oldest Religion, Hinduism.
I did learn more from traveling most of the Middle East. As they were the cradle of civilization for the western world.
Yet even learn greater from Dinosaurs, octopus's and homo sapiens about the earth. Because there is clear worldwide physical evidence to show me they existed. Where Jesus,.Moses and Adam and Creationism Museum can only find very little evidences of anything.You see Castlepaloma, God the Most High is loving and just, but there is (or at least was) law which applies to His creation - sooner or later.
If people sinned against God - cursed God in their hearts, they were, and will be punished by dead, if not physical during their life, then spiritual after they'll finish this journey.
Bildad was talking about this law in the Book of Job:
Job 8
New International Version (NIV)
Bildad
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Then Bildad the Shuhite replied:
2
“How long will you say such things? Your words are a blustering wind.
3
Does God pervert justice? Does the Almighty pervert what is right?
4
When your children sinned against him, he gave them over to the penalty of their sin.
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And Job suspected that something was going wrong when his children were partying and drinking wine:
Job 1
New International Version (NIV)
Prologue
"1 In the land of Uz there lived a man whose name was Job. This man was blameless and upright; he feared God and shunned evil. ...
4 His sons used to hold feasts in their homes on their birthdays, and they would invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them.
5 When a period of feasting had run its course, Job would make arrangements for them to be purified.
Early in the morning he would sacrifice a burnt offering for each of them, thinking,
"Perhaps my children have sinnedand cursed God in their hearts.”
This was Job’s regular custom."
Job's wife knew about this law as well when she said to Job:
Job 2
Job Refuses to Curse God
9 Then his wife told him, “Do you remain firm in your integrity? Curse God and die!”
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Traveling Middle East, have you been to Petra, Salalah in Oman, or little museum at Fira / Santorini Island ?If only we knew what those laws are. But all we have to go on is the word of various priests, prophets and other men - never any actual indication from the god (choose which one you prefer). And all of them give a different story as to what their god wants.
Researching the Book of Job you’ll get fairly good picture what God wants from us. Although Job was the richest man on earth, he was still set as an example to follow.
The Book of Job is full of laws, whether introduced to us by Job, or his friends.
Obviously you can skip the Decalogue, put together by Flavious Josephus in the first century AD. He didn’t even bother to include 'Thou Shall Not Lie' in it.The worst sin according to the 10 commandments.... is :No Gods shall be before me. Where killing is about 6th place of importance.
Priorities are screwed up.The Decaloge - X Commandments - was created by Joseph Flavius in the first century AD. You will not find the X Commandments in the Bible.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1560687?se … b_contents
If you go back to the first book of the Bible - Genesis, you will notice that God of Abraham had very clear opinion on killing innocent people:
Genesis 9 (KJV) reads:
"1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, ...
5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require;
at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man;
at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood,
by man shall his blood be shed:
for in the image of God made he man."
From being dragged into church by different Christians girlfriends. Each clergyman would address the same scripture, yet each story would come out diifferentlly, because they would be making it up as they went along.
Or people would get bored.And this is why Christ said in John 8 that we have to SEARCH for Truth, otherwise we will drink lies like fish drinks water
https://biblehub.com/niv/john/8.htm
Actually, Christ made it very simple, He just asked to 'follow' Him.
Just ignore what this group has done wrong with the worst criminal Rap sheet ever in human history.
Give up your soul and worship God with all your heart.
Just because of pasted words on paper, say so repeatedly.No, don’t ignore. Because for many people Repeated Lie Becomes a Truth
We’ve been warned:
“35 They conceive mischief, and bring forth vanity, and their belly prepareth deceit.” (Job 15:35) – “4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.” (Isa. 59:4);Many Christians tell me I would make a good christain. I like good behavior too. Great! No need to be afraid of Satan or go to Hell.
Probably you are a good Good Christian
Check your DNA, and compare:
http://machpelahcave.website/e1b1b-dna-edom/
You see Castlepaloma,
for thousands of years we have been feed with biblical stories describing greed, sinful life, human sacrifices, wars, and unimaginable cruelty of those people; and then we have been told that those people are God's beloved and chosen one.
What a lie!!!
How can someone with healthy conscience believe in such a lie, that our God, who is loving and caring God, would call those wicked people and their nation, his own beloved and chosen one.
For ages, authors of these lies, the council of shadows, group of despots, members hidden in high ranking positions surrounding world governments multimedia and the church, are demoralizing our human society, feeding us with the same lies about their superiority again and again.
Unfortunately, so many people today are drinking these lies like water; without even questioning what they are being served they are falling in this deadly trap.
However, if you have noticed that something doesn't really make sense in what you have been preached, have you ever wandered if there is other option?
Have you ever checked the Bible and searched it for TRUTH, and the truly God's Chosen People - the New Creation?
Christ told us that God's Chosen People are the Gentiles; but who are the Gentiles?
Most people will agree that setting the initial stage is of uttermost importance; so let's examine how the stage was initially set.
For ages we were told that the stage was set for Jacob / Israel; that his descendants are the seed of Abraham and the carriers of the Blessing and Promise God gave to Abraham and his descendants.
However, if you read Genesis, and examine what you are reading, then before finishing this first book of the Bible, you should noticed that Jews and Israelites ARE NOT God's chosen people.
You should figured out that only by deception of pro Israeli preachers you have been duped to believe that they are.
The TRUTH is that the Gentiles are the God's own people, the new creation; however, you may wander - who are the Gentiles.?
Let's look at the initial stage again:
Abraham (name meaning - the father of multitude) was born in Ur Mesopotamia, and died at age of 175 in Hebron.
Abraham was descendent of Shem, the son of Noah and ancestor of Semites.
According to Islam, Christianity and Judaism - the three major religions and 3/4 of world population, Abraham was elected by God to become a father of many nations and a carrier of His plan for humanity.
The Bible, Genesis 12 reads:
"1 The LORD had said to Abram,..."
2 "I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing.
3 I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."
God also said to Abraham, Genesis 15:
"Do not be afraid, Abram. I am your shield, your very great reward"...
"Look up at the sky and count the stars - if indeed you can count them."... "So shall your offspring be."...
"To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates."
Abraham fathered eight sons who become ancestors of many nations.
Isaac was the Promised son of Abraham; he was fulfilment of the promised God gave to Abraham and his wife Sarah; Isaac was the only son Abraham had with his wife Sarah.
ABRAHAM
ISAAC - son of Isaac
Isaac, who was the carrier of the Blessing and of the Promise God gave to Abraham had two sons; founders of two nations:
The son's of Isaac were:
Esau, the firstborn of Isaac and ancestor of GENTILES,
and Jacob, renamed as Israel and ancestor of all Israelites including Jews.
ABRAHAM
ISAAC - son of Abraham
ESAU - son of Isaac
Bible - Genesis 17 reads:
"1 When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to Abram and said to him, "I am Almighty God; walk before Me and be blameless.
2 And I will make My covenant between Me and you, and I will make nations of you, and kings shall come from you.
15 Then God said to Abraham, "As for Sarai your wife ... I will bless her and also give you a son by her; ... and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of peoples shall be from her." " ... Sarah your wife shall bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac;
I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his descendants after him. "
Abraham was 100 years old when Isaac was born to him. When Isaac was forty years old, he took Rebekah, a granddaughter of Abraham's brother Nahor, as wife. Isaac pleaded with the LORD for his wife, because she was barren; and the LORD granted his plea, and Rebekah conceived.
But the children struggled together within her; and she said, "If all is well, why am I like this?" So she went to inquire of the LORD.
And the LORD said to her:
"Two NATIONS are in your womb ... "
So when her days were fulfilled for her to give birth, there were twins in her womb.
The firstborn was named Esau,
and after him came out his tween brother, with his hand grasping Esau's heel; so he was named Jacob.
Isaac was sixty years old when Rebecca bore them,
and Isaac loved Esau." (Genesis 25)
ABRAHAM
ISAAC - son of Abraham
ESAU - son of Isaac
Esau, known also as Edom, was ancestors of people known in Christ' times as Essenes, and Essenes named after their patriarch Esau, were the Gentiles - and Christ was one of them.
We were told by Christ to search for the TRUTH in the Bible, and to follow it; so go and search for the people of Esau, and the truth will set you free.
Mark 4:23
"If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear."
Revelation 2:7
"He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
To him who overcomes, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God."
Revelation 2:11
"He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt at all by the second death."I have two simple rules I don't break them for anyboby and have not.
:Be honest and don't harm:. I have only mildly broken the rule, be honest on occasion of a lie to save someone from being harmed.
If I join any monotheism Religions, it would mean I would break these ethical rules several times over. Plus worst, would have to love many enemies, when I have no enemies now.
Basicly my life makes good sense now. True love make good sense. Love is when two people or thing are stronger together than apart, that makes sense too.
Where Religion dose not, it divides all people and cultures, by war and harming the destroys the natural environment.We all worship Gods, so I did some research and found your God Castepaloma.
Your God is called WADD. God of LOVE & FRIENDSHIP.
Traveling Middle East did you learn about people called MINAEANS / MINOANS ?
Wadd is the God of love and friendship.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WADD
Wadd (Arabic: ود) (Musnad:Wadd was God of the Minaeans / Minoans. „An altar dedicated to him was erected by Minaeans living on the Greek island of Delos. The altar contains two inscriptions, one of which is in Minaean language and the other in Greek. Minaean inscription on the altar begins with symbols of three Minaean god one of which is of Wadd whose symbol is a snake. The Minaean text on the altar reads, "Hāni' and Zayd'il [of the lineage] of Hab erected the altar of Wadd and of the deities of Ma'in at Delos." The Greek inscription reads, "[Property] of Oaddos, god of the Minaeans. To Oaddos."[1][2] He was also worshipped by Minaean colonists in Dedan (modern-day Al-`Ula) during the Lihyanite rule. A temple of Wadd evidently existed in Dedan. There is evidence from Minaean inscriptions of the presence of Levites in the temple of Wadd who according to some scholars were either as priests or cult servants who could later be promoted to higher positions.[3][4][5]”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadd
Strangely, long time ago we knew more about MINAEANS then we know now.
BIBLE AND SPADE - BY STEPHEN L CAIGER D B - first published at the University Press, Oxford 1936. This Edition prepared for katapi by Paul Ingram 2003.
http://www.katapi.org.uk/BAndS/master.h … /ChVII.htm
Chapter VII: THE LAW OF MOSES
HOME | Contents | Introduction | The Influence of Egypt | The Influence of Arabia | The Ras Shamra Tablets | The Code of Hammurabi
THE INFLUENCE OF ARABIA
Far more readily assimilated, we may well believe, was the influence of the kindred Semitic culture of Arabia.
Here, as the fifteenth-century Minaean inscriptions [For the date of the Minaean inscriptions see p.80.] show,
the Divine Name JAH
[JAH is the basic element in Jahweh, that is the Biblical JHWH, transliterated in the English Bible as 'Jehovah'.]
had survived from the most primitive times.
What may have been the original meaning or root of this mysterious name is still in doubt.
It is found (as Ya or Yau) on Babylonian tablets of 2000 BC
and later, always as a Semitic Deity.
It is found in name-compounds among the Ras Shamra tablets.
It appears again in the Minaean records as the God of Heaven,
whose second name is Love (Wadd),
and Who has His shining Hosts (Sabaoth).
It may well be that here in Midian Moses learnt to call upon the 'Name of the LORD'
[In our Bibles the word LORD(printed in capitals) always represents the Hebrew JHWH, the Divine Name which the Jews were not allowed to pronounce.].
But, as Rogers remarks [R. W. Rogers, Religion of Babylonia and Assyria (1908).],
'the question is not where the Name came from, but what Moses put into it.
For into that vessel a long line of Prophets from Moses onwards poured such a flood of attributes as never a priest in all Western Asia, from Babylon to the Sea, ever dreamed of in his highest moments of spiritual insight.'
Further interesting points arise in the Minaean inscriptions.
God is known as EL, and the several gods of the Minaean pantheon as ELOHIM,
both of which forms appear in the Biblical name for God.
The priestess of Wadd is called a Levite (lawiat);
and there are further verbal identities in the words for the sacrificial cart (mekonah),
the cauldron (mabsal),
a feast (haj),
the tithe (ma'ser),
the congregation (kahal),
the sin-offering (hattath), and so on.
In fact 'the Minaean inscriptions exhibit an extensive correspondence to the Hebrew ritual,
and the vista is open for still more "light on the Bible" when Arabia comes at last to be scientifically explored'.
[J. A. Montgomery, Arabia and the Bible (1934).]
A small detail of Minaean orthography may also be mentioned:
the letter H is frequently used to indicate a vowel-sound.
For instance Abram would be written either ABRM or ABRHM (Abram or Abraham).
One of three friends who visited Job was Sefo, the king of Minaeans. He is the first from right on this painting.The Ancient Greek Bible reads the name of Sefo as Sophar - King of Minaeans.
Septuagint, LXX (Job CH 42:17)
“17 And Job died, an old man and full of days: and it is written that he will rise again with those whom the Lord raises up.
This man is described in the Syriac book as living in the land of Ausis, on the borders of Idumea (Edom) and Arabia:
and his name before was Jobab;
and having taken an Arabian wife, he begot a son whose name was Ennon.
And he himself was the son of his father Zare, one of the sons of Esau,
and of his mother Bosorrha, so that he was the fifth from Abraam.
And these were the kings who reigned in Edom, which country he also ruled over:
first, Balac, the son of Beor, and the name of his city was Dennaba:
but after Balac, Jobab, who is called Job,
and after him Asom, who was governor out of the country of Thaeman: and after him Adad, the son of Barad, who destroyed Madiam in the plain of Moab; and the name of his city was Gethaim.
And his friends who came to him were
Eliphaz, of the children of Esau, king of the Thaemanites,
Baldad sovereign the Sauchaeans,
Sophar king of the Minaeans.”
The Book of Job - Chapter 42:17
http://www.ecmarsh.com/lxx/Job/index.htm - Septuagint LXX
http://khazarzar.skeptik.net/biblia/coptic/job_copt.pdf Ancient Coptic
Based on this ending we can trace genealogy of Job in the Bible:
ABRAHAM
HAGAR (wife) (Gen.16:3) SARAH (wife) (Gen.17:15)
ISHMAEL (firstborn son) (Gen.16:15) ISAAC (promised son) (Gen.17:19) I
Basemath (daughter of Ishmael) married ESAU (firstborn son of Issac) (Gen.36:3) IIl
REUL (son of ESAU and BASEMATH) (Gen.36:4) III
ZERAH (son of REUL) (Gen.36:13) IV
JOB (son of ZERAH) (Septuagint-Job42:17d) Generation – V
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bozrah
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Minaeans have developed the first alphabet - Linear A.
The Minaean inscriptions of south Arabia, where Moses may have dwelt with his father-in-law the priest of Midian, are dated by many scholars as early as 1400 BC, and exhibit a well-developed alphabetical writing.
Some are of the opinion that the Hebrews of the pre-Conquest era 'must have originally employed this Minaean script in place of the Canaanite-Phoenician'. [F. Hommel, Ancient Hebrew Tradition (1897).]
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It is true that Middle East was cradle of civilization, but it is also true that it’s his is closely related to the stories from the Bible - the Book of Genesis and the Bbok of Job.
The Civil Law was created by great grandfather of Job - Lipit Eshtar.
Lipit-Eshtar was creator of the law which allowed Job to divide his possessions equally among his sons and daughters, which was directly contrary to the Israelite law.
In the archaeological record of Sumer, Esau is named Lipit-Eshtar, who inherited the throne of Isin from his uncle and father in law Ishme-Dagan (Ishmael).
Ishmael, the firstborn son and heir of Abraham, became the fourth king of Isin in c. 1954 BC; in Sumerian list of kings he is called Ishme-Dagan. His full title ran "IshmeDagan, governor of Nippur, prince of Ur, Uddadu of Eridu, lord of Uruk, king of Isin, king of Sumer and Akkad, the beloved husband of Naua".
One of the four wives of Esau was princess Basemath, daughter of Ishmael. After death of his father in law, Esau - (Lipit Eshtar), became the fifth ruler of the first dynasty of Isin, and ruled from c.1934 BC to 1924 BC.
Several documents and royal inscriptions describing Esau's reign had survived, written on cuneiform tablets, and one of those tablets was discovered in the ruin of Nippur by the Pensilvania University team of 1889.
Fifty years later, this tablet, inscribed in Old Sumerian Cuneiform, was selected from amongst 3,000 tablets, and translated to reveal a partial summary of the legal code of Esau's reign period.
Discovery of group of related tablets, allowed researches to complete the work, and Esau's laws summary (Lipit - Eshtar Law Code) was publish in 1948.
Discovery of those tablets shows, that fallowing the ground breaking laws (set down by Ur-Namma, King of Ur in c. 2100 B.C.), it was Abraham's grandson Esau, who drafted a formal legal code for Sumer and Akkad in 1930 BC.
This Law Code of Esau, precedes the famous Law Code of Hammurabi a couple of centuries later.
This tablet, discovered in the ruin of Nippur, by the Pensilvania University team, includes 38 sections from the second half of Esau's Law Code.
This part of the law code is dealing with real estate, servitude, interest rates, inheritance, marriage and penalties for damages to or caused by rented livestock.
It is the first legal code to deal substantively with the inheritances of children of plural wives, including slave wives and prostitutes.
It is also the first to allow daughters to inherit from fathers.
Esau's Law Code opens a window on social development of the period, including the first legal provision for child support.
Legal codes written in Esau's name, were used for school instruction for hundreds of years after his death, but he is also known because Sumerian language hymns written in his honor.
http://www.duhaime.org/LawMuseum/LawArt … shtar.aspx
King Lipit-Ectar, counselor with huge intelligence, who never tires of discussion,
wise one whose decisions guide the people, amply wise, knowing everything in great detail!
To decide justly the lawsuits of foreign countries, you recognize true and false even in people’s thoughts.
Lipit-Ectar, you …… the wicked, but you also know how to save someone by commuting his death sentence;
you know how to free someone from the severe punishment, from the jaws of destruction.
The mighty do not commit robbery and the strong do not abuse the weak anymore:
you have established justice in Sumer and Akkad and made the Land feel content.
40-50 Lipit-Ectar, king of Isin, king of Sumer and Akkad, you are the tablet writer of Nibru (Nippur); ...
https://inanna.virtualave.net/ishtarinthemiddle.jpg
http://www.mesopotamiangods.com/a-prais … anslation/A long comment.. But what exactly do you want to tell us Voyager? And how is it related to the topic religion-fear?
I’d like people like you, not those ignorants, to notice that original ABRAHAMIC religion was NOT base on fear, but on the promise of love, friendship and prosperity.
Do you know the true meaning of the COVENANT, between God and Abraham, which supposedly originated the three words religions: Christianity, Judaism and Islam ?
Genesis 17 (King James Version)
1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine,
the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him,
I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
2 And I will make my covenant between me and thee,
and will multiply thee exceedingly.
4 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee,
and thou shalt be a father of many nations.
6 And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee,
and kings shall come out of thee.
7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after
thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant,
to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee,
the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan,
for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.
9 And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore,
thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations....
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Then God talks about Sarah, mother of Isaac
and grandmother of Esau and Jacob.
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16 And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her,
and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her....
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Abraham (name meaning - the father of multitude) was born in Ur Mesopotamia, and died at age of 175 in Hebron.
Abraham was descendent of Shem - the son of Noah and ancestor of Semites.
According to Islam, Christianity and Judaism - the three major religions and 3/4 of world population, Abraham was elected by God to become a father of many nations and a carrier of His plan for humanity.
The Bible, Genesis 12 reads:
"1 The LORD had said to Abram,..."
2 "I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing.
3 I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."
God also said to Abraham, Genesis 15:
"Do not be afraid, Abram. I am your shield, your very great reward"...
"Look up at the sky and count the stars - if indeed you can count them."... "So shall your offspring be."...
"To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates."
Abraham fathered eight sons who become ancestors of many nations.
Isaac was the Promised son of Abraham; he was fulfilment of the promised God gave to Abraham and his wife Sarah; Isaac was the only son Abraham had with his wife Sarah.
ABRAHAM
ISAAC - son of Isaac
Isaac, who was the carrier of the Blessing and of the Promise God gave to Abraham had two sons; founders of two nations:
The son's of Isaac were:
Esau, the firstborn of Isaac and ancestor of GENTILES,
and Jacob, renamed as Israel and ancestor of all Israelites including Jews.
ABRAHAM
ISAAC - son of Abraham
ESAU - son of IsaacIn the midst of this strife, whereat the halls of Ilu´vatar
shook and a tremor ran out into the silences yet unmoved,
Ilu´vatar arose a third time, and his face was terrible to behold.
Then he raised up both his hands, and in one chord, deeper
than the Abyss, higher than the Firmament, piercing as the
light of the eye of Ilu´vatar, the Music ceased.
Then Ilu´vatar spoke, and he said: ‘Mighty are the Ainur,
and mightiest among them is Melkor; but that he may know,
and all the Ainur, that I am Ilu´vatar, those things that ye
have sung, I will show them forth, that ye may see what ye
have done. And thou, Melkor, shalt see that no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me, nor can
any alter the music in my despite. For he that attempteth
this shall prove but mine instrument in the devising of things
more wonderful, which he himself hath not imagined.’
Then the Ainur were afraid, and they did not yet comprehend
the words that were said to them; and Melkor was
filled with shame, of which came secret anger. But Ilu´vatar
arose in splendour, and he went forth from the fair regions
that he had made for the Ainur; and the Ainur followed
him.And where are they, and their descendants now ???
Talking about Jacob, younger brother of Esau and Patriarcha of Israel, we know that his descendants are occupying US Senat now.
Do you remember the standing ovations Netanyahu got entering US Senate several years ago ?
Do you know the support President Trump is giving to Israel, and about his love for Israelites.
Who knows the beginning can easily figure out the end.
Both Christianity and Islam at some stages spread by the sword. Only Hinduism and Buddhism spread by love. Only these two religions do not inspire fear while Isalm is the worst offender.
Most Buddhist are considered non religious. Hinduism dose not fall into monotheism one God because they have millions of Gods. I tried to become a Buddhist one time, but a BJ from a woman converted me back to my ultimate love.
Religion can evolve. Atheism is an evolutionary dead end: its got no spine, no guts, no balls etc
I can't imagine Religion evolving base on their hardships of the bronze age and outdated ancient knowledge of poems, fairly tales, Supernatural hero which Hollywood dose a more exciting job at.
Yes, atheist parade would not be exciting as a gay parade. Yet science is a great tool for advancing human civilization along the arts and culture for mankinds greatest influence. Where I pay more taxes than received profit as a great artist. My brother as a pastor pays no taxes, Holly crap.True, religion can and does evolve. From many gods, to one god, to no god.
As gods and later one god was used to explain the world. The creation of animals and men, diseases, weather and disasters. All these phenomena are now explained by science and the god-theory became obsolete. The god-theory is still used to fill in the gaps science does not know. But the gaps become smaller and smaller.
The more people become educated about evolution and the natural world, the more atheasm will grow.Yes, atheist with grow slowly, the fastest growing group is generally the non religious.
Well explained.
Castlepaloma, there you go again, drawing false conclusions not supported by fact. You take anecdotal evidence and explode it to cover the entire group. Not very accurate, and not very nice.
When Christ (the actual founder of the Christian religion) taught his lessons, he admonished his followers not to fear.
But I do agree with your recommendations. Too many have knee-jerk reactions to fearful situations that end up increasing tyranny over us. For instance, 9/11 was a problem created by Globalists, blamed on Muslims, with the recommendations of unPatriot Act and fake War on Terror.
The pope is an idiot and traitor, enabling pedophilia, pushing climate change anti-science, and saying that even atheists can get into heaven (forgetting the one unforgivable sin). Evolving? Corruption is more like it.
Christian Fundamentalists are only slightly better, but their disdain of science is little better than delusion. They ignore the far more likely truth of theistic evolution, big bang as a function of creation and the Bible as a manual for spiritual things, instead of a history book to be read literally.
What you call advancement isn't. Some of it is corruption.
Science studies the products of God's creation and does a damn good job of it. Religion, based on spirituality, studies the sources of creation. Both fields complement each other, covering the whole of reality. Where the two halves seem to disagree, there is merely a failure to understand one or the other. Science isn't perfect. Too many scientists reject evidence that's uncomfortable, crippling scientific progress. Too many believers get lazy and arrogant with their biblical interpretation and forget that God created the things science studies.I don't see clearly any biblical facts or even a good drawing or painting of Jesus.
Jesus did not study 100s of arts and cultures from around the world and built top factual museum and theme history displays.
He was successful of getting to a very old age of 33 for his bronze age period and had a few good vague guildlines tips for a magician and healer, yet could not read or write. What accuracy? It may not be very nice, yet I am not stupid, as it's the leading cause of death.
I know a few decent Christians, yet the over overall behaviors like American Christians who are first in war, prisons and angels, not good enough for my standards.
Christ talked about hell as much as heaven. Jesus even claimed to visit hell and told them he is suffering more than them. That is no place of suffering to retire.
Even though I think the Pope carries alot of Nonsense. At least he acts kinder than other Pope's. I will take a kinder world rather than over more Religion, any day.
Maybe the Pope is right about that too, hell dose not exists. If the Pope is a fraud about hell, then It's all about fear mongering for control just like the US military.
Why did God create atheists? I don't care if atheist are lame, if they don't break the most important rule of no harm, they are good in my books.
Why not a middle ground solution rather than fighting that solves nothing. Or dose one world Religion and NWO want it all to their greedy selves and have the correct Religion to be in heaven?
It was the Jews is the correct answer to heaven, sorry for all you ignorance billions of other monotheism Religions and non religious. All of you are very stupid human beings who will end up torture in hell forever,, because God loves you.
Japan kicked out Christians and their guns in early times. They have a very small fraction of crime and war than the US. They are tops in the world for recycling waste and have the longest life span of any country in the world. Much better role models. Yet, some how NWO of Judeo-Christian will attempt to destroy that too.lone77star, saying that Christ was founder of the Christian religion you are spreading false idea, not supported by facts.
Because the actual founder of Christian religion was not Christ, but Constantine the Great, in 330 AD, when he made New Rome / Nova Roma (old city of Byzantium) the capital of Christianity.
Judeo-Christian religion was established in Rome in the 60' AD, by Pharisee Paul, Pharisee Yosef ben Matityahu, later known as Joseph Flavius, and the Jewish empress of Roman Empire - wife of Nero - POPEa Sabina, the first Pope.
Religion of Christ, and his Galilean Apostles was NASARA. That’s why until the time of Constantine those people were called Nazarene. In Nicea in 325 AD they were represented by Arius.
NASARA was the religion of ESSENES, and Essenes were the descendants of ESAU.
And this is supported by facts and logic
Religion is not just about weird USA fundamentalists and/or focusing on negatives.
Stop and think about how crucial indigenous religions are to the existence of fragile cultures. By demonizing all religions "we" could be practicing cultural genocide.
Genocide is a bad thing etcWhen judeo christain religion over dominate in hand and hand with politicans and US military. It becomes too centralizes over powering and fear mongering to the people and their cultures of all kinds with monsters that don't exist.
Where people must be the lead power of a nation. Then Religion and government need to strink down to be their public servants and be secondary. Let them take care of the smaller things in iife. We already know 90℅ of wars are predominantly Religious countries.
I felt the same way when I was a child. It is so nice to not be a child now.
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