Religious discussions

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   lovetherainposted 5 years ago

   we need more religious discussions in the forums, and less politics.
   
   Go.

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      wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Problem is that unless two people are from the same set of believers there isn't much to say.  Others talk about reality and truth, believers talk about personal belief and unsupported faith.

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         promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         For some people, belief is based on reality and truth.

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            wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Doubt you will find many believers basing their faith on reality and truth.  That's why it is called "belief" rather than "knowledge".

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               Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Argh. No, no, no. Many people look at the reality we live in and see no viable conclusion other than God. Others come to no viable conclusion other than absence of God. Both conclusions are belief.
               
               I'm not going to go into the knowledge statement since neither had knowledge when it comes to the answers.

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                  wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  "Both conclusions are belief."
                  
                  Applause.  Both are belief.  But "see no viable conclusion other than God" is telling, for neither belief nor disbelief should be based on ignorance.  Not knowing how/why an event occurred is insufficient reason to declare the existence of God.  Knowledge of reality does not come from not knowing, but wanting to know, so make up an answer and declare it to be true because one is ignorant of reality.

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               promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               I'm not sure I see the difference between knowledge versus reality and truth. But maybe we have a problem with a difference in definitions.

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                  wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Knowledge comes from correctly perceiving reality and truth.  Belief comes from wanting an answer, not having one so making one up.
                  
                  Of course there is a middle ground (isn't there always) where some evidence is available but not enough to declare knowledge.  The world is, and always will be, gray to us for we will never have infinite knowledge.

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   FatFreddysCatposted 5 years ago

   Nah, we need more discussions about ice cream, heavy metal music, and horror movies.

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      promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      And Pop Tarts. Not enough people are outraged by the Pop Tart company cutting back on the filling. The crust has become very dry, too.
      
      Same problem with Dairy Queen Blizzards. They used to have a lot more candy and cookie filling. Not anymore. Outrageous.

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         Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Switch to toaster strudel. You won't be disappointed.

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            promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I did! A world of difference. Curses on Pop Tarts.

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               Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               I didn’t realize anyone over the age of 12 still ate pop tarts.

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                  promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Absolutely. It's especially popular with people who are regressing emotionally after turning 60 years old.

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                  MizBejabbersposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  I love them, but I have to avoid them since I know I have Celiac. I haven't tried the gluten free ones. For the price, I doubt they would be worth the money.

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                  GA Andersonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Silly girl, a box of Pop Tarts is great for the munchies.
                  
                  
                  

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            GA Andersonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            No,no, no. I tried Toaster Strudels. They are good, but they are a different animal. Pop Tarts are a unique product. Not a great product, (you're right Toaster Strudels are better tasting), but a unique one. Kind of like comparing  a fresh Hardees burger to a grocery store frozen section burger.
            
            [EDIT ADDED] Holy cow! I just saw that the topic is supposed to be "Religious Discussions." Oh well, my last toasted Pop Tart did look like a vague image of Jesus, so maybe that counts as being on topic.
            
            
            

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         FatFreddysCatposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         I've found that some off-brand/store brand Pop Tart knock offs actually have more filling/icing than the real deal. This was a revelation.

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