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Raymond Ngongaposted 13 years ago
what is to speak in tongues? can I speak in tongues and is it real?
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LOLOLO
  
  This reminds me of the old adage, "If you have to ask how much it costs......."
  
  Seriously Mr. Ngonga - this might work for you. It goes down very well in certain parts of the USA.
  
  Are you by any chance immune to snake bites?
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well, we all know the only tongue you speak is hate and sarcasm
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Dear me,
  
  Did your husband give you permission to say that?
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  (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Check it out for yourself.
  
  http://www.cephasministry.com/copeland_waves.html
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  Twenty One Daysposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hello, Raymond.
  
  Tongues is a multiple type of communication.
  From a OT/NT perspective it is the ability to speak AND understand multiple human languages. So, I suppose you could.
  This was a portion the 'Pentecost' event.
  
  And remember according to Torah & some Kabbalah teaching, we humans at one point spoke one united language of all languages.
  
  There is supposedly a language of angels -which I personally have never 'heard'. But I suppose there is always a faint possibility.
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  BDazzlerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  My recommendation is that you read 1 Corinthians chapters 12 and 13, as well as Acts Chapters 2 - 4 for the biblical sources. Pray, meditate, consider, then choose and act as you see fit.
  
  As you can see, on this thread there is a wide variety of interpretations opinions from the embracing to the mocking. Each of us puts our our experiences, education,choices etc. into the mix and as is obvious from this thread, these vary widely.
  
  Now as to my thoughts on it: It is a "gift" and that implies and act of will on the giver. (i.e. God) ... If a father gives a child a car, it is a common, but sad thing if the child suddenly loves the car more than the father. It is my opinion is that you may want keep that in mind as you read.
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  zampanoposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  If you cannot speak in tongues, my recommendation is that you speak in thongs.
  
  It's a sure way to attract audience (as I'd seem to be trying now...)
  only actually if you want to speak in thongs, you must weare them.
  hehehe
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  
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  TheLoanConsultantposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  lol! That is just straight wrong!
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  goldenpathposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Interesting thread. The important thing to remember is that many of the gifts that God can bestow on man can be emulated by the Adversary as well to give the "appearance" of a gift. It is this latter source that I believe is prevalent in many late examples especially taking place in many churches.
  
  Any direct communication from God in this manner will always be for a specific reason or purpose. Always. It is not given for the fun of it or to be used in a manner which no one at all knows what's being said. Confusion is not part of His purpose for us. Actually, the gift of tongues can mean many things. It can be a predisposition to learn another language so you can communicate with peoples in distant lands. It can manifest itself in common language during instruction or conversation where somehow just the right things are said that make a deep impact on an individual. It can even be someone on this platform who can properly express thoughts into words that will mean a great deal to someone on the other side of the globe or right next door. Often the gifts given are not "mysterious" as is commonly portrayed but rather are everyday occurrences happening in extraordinary ways.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Please back this up with Scripture.
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  goldenpathposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Paul even taught the simplicity of speaking in tongues in 1 Corinthians 14:19. It is for teaching, instructing or the ability to do so in that person's language.
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  Pr0metheusposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I do after about 12 shots....
  
  Yes, alcohol eventually effects speech...
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  cosetteposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  speaking in tounges is not ranting off nonsensical jibberish. it is speaking in many different languages, especially ones you would never encounter or possibly know like Icelandic or Arabic or something, which is why when people truly do it, it is considered miraculous. these people who wave their hands in the air at a prayer meeting and go "blah blah blah jehaddi mooshadi blah blah' are just trying to make people think they have been siezed by the Holy Spirit.
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  TheLoanConsultantposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  "blah blah blah jehaddi mooshadi blah blah' hehe! That is too funny.
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  sannyasinmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have personal experience of this.
  
  One day I went to see an Osteopath for a problem with my arm. He was an ardent believer, and he started to talk to me about his beliefs.
  
  I was lying on his table, and for some reason, I asked him if he was able to “speak in tongues”. Without flinching, he said “Yes”. So I asked him to do it there and then.
  
  He stopped the treatment, close his eyes for a few seconds, then began. He “spoke in tongues” for perhaps 3 minutes.
  
  I didn’t understand a word of it. The nearest I could place it in terms of how it sounded, was Hebrew, but it wasn’t Hebrew. It did however, sound beautiful.
  
  He then carried on the treatment on my arm as if nothing had happened. For him, “speaking in tongues” was quite normal.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  But does this mean global climate change is a LIE!?
  
  Still - no worries. This convinces me it is a LIE!
  
  Smell a religionist a mile off. How odd is that!?
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  Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  But did he do a good job with your arm?
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  sannyasinmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No, actually he didn't. Nor did he manage to convert me. I don't belong to or advocate ANY religion.
  
  I mention this "one-off" experience only to answer the original question.
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  Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Somehow, I didn't expect him to do a good job on your arm. He probably zoned out during his classes and couldn't keep up.
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  SpaceAgeposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  yes, it's real. yrs ago i was praying & started speaking in tongues, & thought i slipped @ the tongue. this happened 3x B4 it stopped. i have a different gift now known as prophesy. now that i'm older & better understand speaking in tongues, i'd like 2 retry it
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  Andrew0208posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  @poster,
  "what is to speak in tongues? can I speak in tongues and is it real?" You can speak in tongues if you believe. It is also meaningless to anyone who do not believe or mock the same. Speaking in tongues is a great spiritual tool in the hand of any believer who walks in the consciousness of the life of Christ resident in his/her spirit. It goes beyond the blah blah blah that anyone blahs! "For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful." I cor 14:14
  
  You'll get the full dose of it from the whole chapter of
  
  1 Corinthians 14
  
  1. "Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
  
  2. For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
  
  3. But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
  
  4. He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church."
  
  If you do not believe the Scriptures, it will appear meaningless to you. That's the reality! This is not the play of religion or someone trying to impose some dumb stuff on you. It's a walk of faith which is of the Spirit.
  
  I consciously use this great tool. It's a force!
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The Bible's meaning and effectiveness of speaking in tongues has been twisted.
  It mostly meant (and means) a way in which the Holy Spirit allowed people of other languages to understand the Word of God when spoken in a tongue they couldn't understand. It was a translation issue. In these modern days, we usually don't have very much of a problem with understanding, and when we do, there are usually actual interpreters who perform that work.
  
  ...I grew up visiting churches where people "spoke in tongues". I believe most of it was ineffective jibberish. Also, people shouldn't speak in tongues unless they also are equipped to interpret it for everyone else's benefit. The Bible says to pray for interpretation of one's own "speaking in tongues", and also that those shall "cease". The scenario of someone speaking in "tongues" and then expecting someone else to interpret it is often done for "show", and is often even dangerously close to quenching the Spirit.
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theirishobserver.posted 13 years ago
Strange on this, I think it is all in the mind, brought on by suggestion, I have seen people who claim to speak in tongues...and to be honest these people would be the last accomadation the holy spirit would seek if he were on earth.......for many it is a con job for many it is an honest belief brought on by suggestion......and the Bible says.....and so forth....
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  double_frickposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  yes, these are my thoughts exactly...
  i'll have them back now, thank you!
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  
  I can do a lot of things with my tongue.
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  Hokeyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  This is very interesting.
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  Hokeyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Seriously I grew up in North Carolina and was raised Southern Pentecostal. When I was a child and went to church people speaking in tounges was a common sight. It scared me as a little kid and now they wonder why I am Buddhist. lol
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  
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Precious Pearlposted 13 years ago
Yes, you can speak in tongues if you have received Jesus as your Lord and Savior. Speaking in tongues is an outward manifestation of the infilling of the Holy Spirit. It is one of the Believers most powerful weapons of warfare because Satan has no understanding of what is being prayed. Additionally, the Holy Spirit prays through us according to the Will, Purpose and Plan of God for our lives in alignment with the Word. If you read the Book of Acts, it describes what happened to the followers of Jesus who were first filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke in tongues.

Recently, a friend was ministering and she was praying in tongues, the young lady in the car with her latter testified that all she heard was english although my friend only prayed in tongues and not her natural language. There are other instances documented where people who were from different countries and who spoke various languages not to mention dialects of their own region heard the prayer in their own language although the person praying was doing so in tongues. Many people come to know Him in this way because of the power of praying in tongues.

And I assure you that praying in tongues although a very exciting gift for those that receive it...is not brought on by the power of suggestion or emotionalism but a strong belief in the power of the gift for the spiritually discerning.

If you really want to know more about Him ... The Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues ... Read Acts.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I agree with 98% of what you have said and 98% is a lot.
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  (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  True, it is just 2% shy of 100%. Probably, the 2% that would have been your common sense.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I agree with this 100%.
  
  Now - you thought 98% was a lot, but this is a real lot.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry, I still don't care what you think.
  
  You keep bringing up my husband in every thread. I just want you to know, my husband is straight.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So - he did give you permission to say that - or not?
  
  Accuse me of stealing again. That was awesome - I had so much fun watching you being unable to say sorry - it convinced me you are a genuine believer.
  
  Not really sure why you bothered to speak directly to me on this thread if you do not care what I think. Odd that.....
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  When you quote "" you have to say who you quoted from (which you did not do). otherwise it is stealing.
  I can't even make myself care what you think.
  My husband says "Not Interested"
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LOLOLOL
  
  Remember - it was a quote that no one know who said it and in the public domain. That is not stealing. Still - thanks for proving my point once again. Attack some one and accuse them of stealing and then never ever back down when they show you that you are wrong. There is a word for that also.
  
  Ask your husband if that is OK.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Tsk Tsk Mark, you called me a liar and a thief many times then I went looking to see why you kept bringing it up. That's when I found your quotes that did not give credit. You can't use quotes anywhere without credits.
  But how saintly and innocent you are. OOps your hate is showing.
  It's easy to be rude when you pretend you live in France, but you wouldn't be in front of my Husband. He would have you running to hide like a little girl.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Of course you can sweetie. If you do not know who said it. Sorry.
  Yes - innocent. You can apologize any time. If your husband will let you.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  NO you Cannot! wrong...
  It's easy to be rude when you pretend you live in France, but you wouldn't be in front of my Husband. He would have you running to hide like a little girl.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Dear me,
  
  Vicarious threats now? Oh yes - you are a believer all right. I do not know who said the 15 word quote in my 1,100 word hub.
  
  I used italics to show it was not me, but I cannot - nor do I need to - attribute it to the dead guy who said it.
  
  The Husband has a capital letter now huh?
  
  You wouldn't be married to an Imaginary Friend would you?
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Not threatening you, just saying you would not be rude to my face because he would not let you. I stand on that.
  Here's some reading for you.
  
  http://www.answerbag.com/distance-educa … b379d6078b
  
  http://oreilly.com/oreilly/author/permission/
  Scroll to "Who owns the copyright" tells about the "Old dead guy" you mentioned
  
  http://writing.umn.edu/tww/plagiarism/definitions.htm
  
  http://content.scholastic.com/browse/ar … sp?id=1604
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  2% is much more than you have.
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  Precious Pearlposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Deborah, thank you ... You are a bold woman. I so appreciate a woman who speaks her mind and takes on the ungodly Mark Knowles. He is something of a thorn in the side, isn't he? Enjoy the banter.
  
  Mark, I am really not suprised to see you back in the Religious Forums ... don't know when you decided to get back into the fray. You do make things interesting though...
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes. I tell the truth. I see that bothers you.
  
  ...............................................................
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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  Precious Pearlposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No Mark, your truth is like Satan's truth ... you see he wraps up just enough truth in a lie so that those that have an ear for a bit of truth can be decieved. Your "truth" doesn't bother me at all. I think that you are kind of cute and funny.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well, that is better than obnoxious and hypocritical I guess?
  
  Of course my truth does not bother you. You have already decided you are precious and named yourself accordingly. Good for you sweetie. Satan would be proud a' ya.
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  Precious Pearlposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Mark ... would you get original? The insulting of my name thing has been done .. I don't call myself Precious ... God does ... and He calls you that too. I am precious because of Jesus. Have you learned nothing from these forums? Obviously not.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Oh - I have learned a lot, precious.
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  this reminds me of Lord of the Rings
  speaking in different tongues
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  Twenty One Daysposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  precious......tantrum.
  wicked, trick-sy, false.
  just kidding, i thoroughly enjoy Mr. Tolkien works' especially Silmarillion.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It doesn't take much to stand up to him. Don't give him all that.
  Obviously, carrying an English name, he isn't French but certainly has that attitude.
  Go to France and they all treat you rudely.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LOLOLO
  
  And you come here every year? And you get treated rudely?
  
  Domage...........
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Laughing Out loud, Out loud laughing, Out loud?? Is that what you're saying?
  What has me going there once a year got to do with them being rude?
  You're not there..stop saying you are. You live in America
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What? You don't think it is funny? Here you are claiming to come here every year - by ferry from Greece lol - and complaining that they are rude to you?
  
  And coming back every year -by ferry from Greece.
  
  And no - just because you are prepared to lie - do not project that on me. I say it - it is true.
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  Precious Pearlposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You are right ... thanks for giving me another perspective.
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  LeslieAdrienneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Precious
  
  That was a wonderful explanation of the the gift of speaking in tongues.....we need to especially pray in tongues for this forum.....
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LOLOLOLOLOLLOLOL
  
  Religionists really like to fight and cause hatred huh?
  
  Like wot jeebus sed.
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes! I think so too !.
  Please keep me posted. I'd love to see that !
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  Andrew0208posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Precious Pearl, I'm quite inspired by these Words of Power. It's not by might but by His Spirit.
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theirishobserver.posted 13 years ago
hhhahgshgstefdhtesanhsthdgtegfdiosnhdthsnsgta...I just dont know what came over me
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  Naomi R. Coxposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You know, being raised by a preacher, I know what is wrong and what is right. I went to Holiness churches all my life. Speaking in tongues was when that person was specking directly to God. It should Not be made fun of and that person was the only one that knew what the conversation was about. That is the way it is supposed to be. The bible teaches us that all sin is equal , but two sins and there are no forgiveness for these. They are suicide and blaspheming against the Holy Ghost.
  This is my first time coming in and commenting on these kind of topic's and it will be my last. I hold God close to my heart and give him thanks everyday for life.
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tantrumposted 13 years ago
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theirishobserver.posted 13 years ago
Hokey, like it, speaking in tongues is menat to scare you, its meant to put you in your place, its meant show that others are closer to God than you, but in reality its just their way of hiding....boo
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  Hokeyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thats funny. Even as a kid I always thought they were full of it. Trying to see who could be more godly. I couldn't say anything though or I would be forced to pick my own switch.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  How very Christian of them
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Greg Cremiaposted 13 years ago
Jesus never spoke in tongues. He spoke a form of Arabic.
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  SirDentposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Mar 5:41 And he took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha cumi; which is, being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise.
  
  Mat 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  This isn't tongues, as I am sure you know. This is quoting Scripture.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It is not quoting scripture, however it may not be tongues either. The last one Quoted is Christ speaking in Hebrew however it was mistransliterated.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  This isn't true. Please show scripture...
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jill-of-all tradeposted 13 years ago
If I do not take my meds I speak in tongue ....would that count?
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  Hokeyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes! I believe that would count.
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theirishobserver.posted 13 years ago
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  Hokeyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  He didn't take his meds either
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  jill-of-all tradeposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LOL apparently NOT
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Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years ago
My wife is most appreciative when I speak in tongues.
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  (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Now, that IS funny.
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Flightkeeperposted 13 years ago
Hi Raymond, I don't personally know of people or have seen people who have spoken in tongues. There are a couple of Protestant groups who are more familiar with it such as the Pentecostals. I would suggest that you visit a Pentecostal church service and talk to the ministers and members there to learn more about it. They would be very open to discussing it with you.
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  (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  How is anyone supposed to understand them? Is there an online "English-Tongue" translator?
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Like someone in an earlier post in this thread said "Satan can't understand tongues"
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Neither can anyone else.
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  LeslieAdrienneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hi Mark.....
  
  Other tongues is not for you to understand.....it is personal communication between the speaker and God......you never struck me as the nosey type
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  (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Satan has provided you with a computer, internet connection and host of other conveniences that YOU take advantage of every day.
  
  What does that make you, then?
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  But you haven't provided me with anything!!
  It makes me a wonderful person.
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  (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No, it makes you a bold faced liar and hypocrite.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Should I have your defamation removed?
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  (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Just can't stand having reality thrust in your face?
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Again, Should I?
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Done!
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  mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I see an angel in her.
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  LeslieAdrienneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Q
  
  Satan has given me nothing....because he has nothing to give......the power that he operates in is deflected from the power of God....
  
  He is a liar, a deceiver and he above a defeated foe.....The love of God through the person of Jesus Christ has sufficiently defeated him .....
  
  Jesus loves you.
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ddsurfscaposted 13 years ago
Wow, I swear as these threads go on and on te further from any kind of truth do they get sometimes.
After a person has accepted Jesus into their heart, and they are then baptized in water, the next step is to then be baptized in the holy spirit, which then allows you to become a vessel for God, the trinity to use you in his service, and the speaking in tongues is an outward display that this has taken place, and that you are a vessel of God.
It is possible for some people to "fake" this I suppose, but why would one except to protray to be someone that he isn't.
I have been baptized in the Holy Spirit many years ago, and it is something that is almost supernatural to experience. It also made a difference in my life in that I felt it was much easier for me to discuss my walk with God and my experiences with God with other people, and to have discussions such as this one.
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  (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  "There's a sucker born every minute" ~~Barnum
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  LeslieAdrienneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Would you be referring to yourself........
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  donotfearposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Right on....me too.
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theirishobserver.posted 13 years ago
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  ddsurfscaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It is very normal (though immature) to make fun of things you do not know about or understand. Research or read up if you care to know. Maybe making fun is just easier.
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  (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And, it's "mature" to believe in things you don't understand?
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It's every person's right to believe in what they want. It is no one's right to openly make fun of anyone. But of course those with a lack of knowledge.................
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  LeslieAdrienneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  (Q)
  
  You never cease to amaze me....do you only believe in things that you understand? Let me answer for you, "No!"
  
  Example: Whatever area of life that you believe to be true and in which you are not a master in, you don't understand, therefore you are subject to the "immature" category that you have reserved for believers.
  
  By definition-
  
  believe: to have confidence in the truth, the existence, or the reliability of something, although without absolute proof that one is right in doing so: Only if one believes in something can one act purposefully.
  
  understand: to perceive the meaning of; grasp the idea of; comprehend: to understand Spanish; I didn't understand your question.
  2. to be thoroughly familiar with; apprehend clearly the character, nature, or subtleties of: to understand a trade.
  3. to assign a meaning to; interpret: He understood her suggestion as a complaint.
  4. to grasp the significance, implications, or importance of: He does not understand responsibility.
  5. to regard as firmly communicated; take as agreed or settled: I understand that you will repay this loan in 30 days.
  6. to learn or hear: I understand that you are going out of town.
  7. to accept as true; believe: I understand that you are trying to be truthful, but you are wrong.
  8. to construe in a particular way: You are to understand the phrase literally.
  9. to supply mentally (something that is not expressed).
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  Sufidreamerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have had a few glasses of Ouzo and that actually makes sense
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And where do you live in Greece?
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  Sufidreamerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sparta
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Duh! I did not have any wine today yet! That explains it
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  LeslieAdrienneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Irishobserver,
  
  I know that you are poking fun and it is supposed to irritate the belivers in this forum....but, if I were you I wouldn't write any more posts faking tongues....You might want to stop whle you are ahead........
  
  God is ok with you not knowing Him and not reverencing Him, but I don't think that mocking His Spirit is a good idea.......you are opening a door for the devil to jump right in your stuff...
  
  See, as an unbeliever, you don't have any power over Satan and his demons....so he can literally run rampant through your life and you couldn't stop him......we (believers) on the other hand do have authority over the devil, because it was given to all of us by Jesus after He rose from the dead.....and we know the reality of the person of the Holy Spirit....
  
  I can speak for us all and say that we are going to pray for you that your lack of understanding be forgiven you.......'cause your REALLY don't know what you're doing............and most of all because we know that Jesus loves you
  
  Seriously,
  Your friend, Leslieadrienne
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  you say the Devil can't do anything to you because you have authority over him and that atheists don't.
  But all the cases of evil possession are christians.
  I never heard of an Atheist possessed !
  so who's the Devil messing up with ??
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zampanoposted 13 years ago
ba ng ba ng my ba by shhhhh ot me dddddddown
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  LeslieAdrienneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You too zampano.....see the post above
  
  Leslieadrienne
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zampanoposted 13 years ago
Well, the fact that there are husbands involved is but one more reason to speak in thongs.

Hi Tantrum.
Like that model ?
hehehe
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Are you going to wear it ?
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  zampanoposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Not that model. Another.
  Toughened both sides.
  hehehe
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Mark Knowlesposted 13 years ago
LOLOLOLOL

I am not being rude to you, I am being honest - and trust me - ten Husbands with a capital H would not prevent me from being honest.

"Public domain" are the operative words in the nonsense you posted.

Religionists just cannot apologize can they?

Dear me, will your Husband be flying to France to chastise me?

And any time you want to tell me who said what I quoted - feel free.

This is absolutely the last time I try and help some one who thinks cutting and pasting thousand of words stolen from the internet on the forum is acceptable.

I see you deleted all that though. And you didn't thank me for helping you either.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  We will be going to Athens then to the beach in May. It's a ferry ride over to France. Let me know where to meet you. If you live there we'll be able to meet and say Hi.
  Obviously you didn't visit the links I provided, that says something being Public Domain does not give a person the right to use the material.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LOLOLO
  
  Guess you did not even bother reading what you linked to?
  
  "What doesn't require permission? Material in the public domain. If you want to quote Shakespeare, you don't need to worry about tracking down his closest living relative."
  
  A ferry ride to France? Sure - I guess. Like New York is a train ride to Florida.
  
  Bet your Husband would love to stop by and chastise me for telling his wife the truth.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Of course you can take a ferry over to France.
  If you were from France you would know this. Italy and France can be accessed via a boat.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LOLOLOL
  
  You have obviously never been on a Greek ferry.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I go on a Greek ferry every year. Athens to Zacharo then straight to Italy then we go to France.
  http://www.ferries.gr/
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LOLOLOLOLO
  
  LIke I said.
  
  Zacharo is in France - right? Oh - Italy! uhuh. That is right next to France - so I understand. Same thing really.
  
  Do you ever read ANYTHING?
  
  Dear me. All this to avoid the fact that you attacked me wrongly.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Athens Greece (street Kalamaki) then a long drive to Zacharo Greece....Western part. We take the ferry to Italy then we take a very long drive to France. No big deal. I don't have to read anything.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So - how is that a ferry ride to France?
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  We get there by ferry..cheaper than by plane. You get to it by taking a ferry to Italy then we drive forever. That's how it is taking a ferry.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  All that to avoid apologizing. Sheesh
  
  I live here sweetie pie. Taking a ferry from Athens, Greece to Zacharo, Greece, then taking another boat to Italy - if you are lucky - LOL - and driving to France? From where? Messina? LOL
  
  Deary me. You must have time and money to burn. Last time I drove to the south of Italy it took me 2 days and cost me E400 in fuel tolls and hotels - and I live on the border. LOLOLOL Cheaper than by plane? LOL
  
  Seriously - LOL Drop me an email though my PM when you get here - I would love to meet you.
  
  And your Husband. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No one said I took a boat from Athens to Zacharo. Read again. Yes it does cost less.
  An apology to you is not in the cards.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LOL That much is obvious. But that is OK.
  
  I understand that lying and bearing false witness is acceptable behavior if you believe.
  
  Enjoy your "ferry trip to France from Greece" LOLOLOL
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  If you think it costs less for 4 people to fly then to drive in one car you know you're ridiculous.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
  
  You have never taken a Greek Ferry to France. LOLOL
  
  Oy vay! Imagine the paper work for the rental car!
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Live in your own sad world Mark. I used to go to school with a guy named Mark Knowles. He wasn't French either. He had no French blood at all.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have no French blood either. Well - I am English - which is sort of French, but you wouldn't understand.
  
  I live in a happy world actually. No need to invent pretend Husbands or imaginary ferry trips to France.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks for admitting your lie.
  Why would I say I'm married if I'm not?
  And why wouldn't I be married?
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What lie was that petal?
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tantrumposted 13 years ago

Post the pic!
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  zampanoposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  
  only because it's you who asked...
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  
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zampanoposted 13 years ago
Well I'm sure glad you became friends afterall.
Don't forget your thongs.
hehehe
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Deborah Sextonposted 13 years ago
You can take a boat from Europe to America then drive to Mexico or any South American country. It is still by boat. If someone said they drove from Europe to South America that would be incorrect.
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earnestshubposted 13 years ago
Damn! It's been a week and Sarah Pailin still hasn't spoken in tongues on national TV!
Now that would entertain the world for months!
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  She is from Alaska. The speaking in tongues thing is pretty much a southern affectation .... Occasionally out in the midwest - but mostly the south. Pretty darn funny when you see it. Scary too.
  
  "Insane," is the word you are looking for. Where did Mr. Ngonga go?
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  LeslieAdrienneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Check the West Coast, (especially L.A.), the Northeast and countries around the world before you are declare where talking in other tongues is most prevalent......
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tantrumposted 13 years ago
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Deborah Sextonposted 13 years ago
Knowles is English
http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/q … -crest.htm
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Um well - I just said I am English.
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Deborah Sextonposted 13 years ago
Precious..Lower consciousness..the flesh, can't perceive God. No use trying. Wipe the dust from your feet.
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  Precious Pearlposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Done.
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Randy Godwinposted 13 years ago
having been born and mired deep in the Bible Belt, I have witnessed many people talking in tongues in several different churches. Want to know what they say? Yabba dabba yabba dabba yabba, or something similar. There is usually someone who claims to be able to interpret the jibberish. This would usually be the preacher or his illiterate wife.

It's amazing how these two, two syllable words could always be counted on to mean everyone was going to hell except those who went to the particular church. The snake handlers are just as crazy as the tongue speakers. But they usually pull the snakes fangs,JUST IN CASE! Nut cases!
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CJ's Closetposted 13 years ago
Speaking in tongues used to refer to speaking the language of heaven. It was suppose to be the Holy Spirit talking to God from your heart in the language. Some people thought that speaking in tongues meant speaking another language from earth that others would know. Unfortunately what is the use of speaking another language unless the ones that are to hear it do- like the Disciples spoke other languages but knew what they were saying and talked to the people that also spoke that language. Is that what is happening in these churches that speak in tongues?
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  Twenty One Daysposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  fortunately for us, CJ, no. I was very close witness to the Pentecostal Uber-church thing. And know 1st hand -be them Born Again, Pentecostal, Church of Christ, Assembly of god, etc etc.
  Not one has actually proven to speak in multiple languages w/ interpretation.
  
  On one occasion, a man in the audience just happened to be from so-in-so country that the 'minister' swore was the tongue of choice. The dude was like WTF. I never laughed so hard and cried so hard at the same time. Was my first & last day there.
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  cosetteposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Speaking in Tongues: The Biblical Account
  
  Speaking in tongues by Christians first occurred during Pentecost. Luke records the account in the book of Acts. Fifty days after Christ's crucifixion, a group of believers were gathered in Jerusalem at a room near the temple. Jesus had "commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father" (Acts 1:4 KJV). Many Jews that had traveled far were also there to celebrate the traditional festival of Pentecost. It is with this backdrop that Luke records what happened:
  
  …Suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. (Acts 2:2-4 KJV)
  
  Filled with the Holy Spirit, the believers began to speak in other languages they neither learned nor understood. The result was that many passers-by heard the gospel proclaimed in their own languages. In bewilderment, they became convicted by the message they heard and became believers in Jesus Christ.
  
  if you suddenly started speaking FLUENTLY in some incredibly difficult language like Icelandic, which is considered almost impossible for anyone who is not Icelandic to learn, why wouldn't that be considered 'speaking in tongues'?
  
  anybody can spout jibberish and claim to be filled with the Holy Spirit. let them speak fluently in many complex languages and i might even be filled with awe.
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AEvansposted 13 years ago
It talks about speaking in tongues in the book of Acts, I have honestly seen it happen in church when people are slaying in the spirit but I have not ever personally had it happen to myself.
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  LeslieAdrienneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  If you want it you can have it.....just ask Matt 7-11
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earnestshubposted 13 years ago
I have seen people talking in tongues on TV.
I have also seen the "laying on of hands" sideshow.

Next I want to see Pailin addressing the senate in tongues televised Internationally to complete my enjoyment of one of the most hilariously stupid religious beliefs known to man!
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Twenty One Daysposted 13 years ago
Cosette, if there was 'like this' button on HB, I would def 'like' your reply a million times!

Earnest, she is supposedly going on tour with Benny Hinn and a new book called `you betcha: the white suit chronicles`.

Tantrum, love, i dunno if i have the strength.lol

how is everyone's Saturday?
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  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  With Benny Hinn you say?
  I love that guy! Any smoother and he would slide up his own ornamental!
  A perfect team! I can't wait to see that! It will make all the satirical comedies look lame!
  I got Sunday morning here, god you guys are slow!
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  Twenty One Daysposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  yip. i am still on GMT
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  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I hear GMT a lot. I listen to the BBC science show and their news out of Germany and Oceania where I live.
  By the way I get better local news from the BBC than from our local commercial TV!
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Deltachordposted 13 years ago
When a person speaks in tongues, he or she is prompted by the Holy Spirit. It isn't something the Christian decides to do, but God prompts them to do so.

If you haven't experienced it, don't knock it.
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  brianzenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I think it is actually a documented thing, there is research about the difference between it and meditation, speaking in tongues disconnects the person from their conscious mind and meditation actually generates new types of brain wave activity. in essence speaking in tongues reflects so little brain activity at the time that researchers could not reason it to mean anything conclusive while beta wave activity associated with meditative states showed enlarging of critical areas of the brain, as well as improvements to the performance speed of that brain. (not that inconclusive disproves validity, I simply state what the program suggested.
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have experienced watching someone who acted as if they spoke in tongues. Several someone's, in fact. It sounded like google de google de google. Of course, later on I found out the best one at faking this was a child molester and also a part time holiness preacher. It seems to be a form of self hypnosis for some believers.
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  (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I know some who claim they have experienced that but they now spend their days in a padded cell writing their speeches on the walls with crayons. Do you think we should let them out?
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earnestshubposted 13 years ago
rghjgtgergj3497896745ternzdk!!3k dfbkhigj

That's all I got for now. Learnt that off Sarah Pailin.
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  brianzenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  All I saw was code.
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  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yep! That's all I saw too!
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  
  speaking in codes.
  more interesting !!
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  brianzenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hey wait maybe it is code, and if we decipher it something cool happens. A really great all powerful affiliate sponsor, think of it, wait what if that's how we got that jeezy shoe thing !
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  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, what happened to him?
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  brianzenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Jeezy oh jeezy save this wretched thread in thy mercy
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  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I am still recovering from that spammer, I got really pissed with him and went after his IP!
  Mind you he would probably improve this thread!
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Pandoras Boxposted 13 years ago
I think speaking in tongues reverts back to making noises before language was language as we know it. I have no evidence of this, but it explains why studies show a lack of activity in the control and language regions of the brain, and why speaking in tongues is a "language" of few repetitive syllables which generally mimic the style of your church leaders, and will change when influenced by hearing someone speak in tongues with syllables that were formerly not part of one's speaking in tongues "vocabulary".
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  Pandoras Boxposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Forgot to mention, it also explains why the art of speaking in tongues predates Jesus myths and is practiced by so many varying cultures.
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  brianzenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes that was the other thing The babblers are like an ancient gnostic heterodox practice not condoned by mainstream christianity.
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earnestshubposted 13 years ago
It's a pile of old cobblers is what it is!
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thisisoliposted 13 years ago
My view was that Speaking in Tongues refered to possesion, allowing the inhabited body to speak in tongues of many nations.

Nowadays however it seems to be more related to blatherings in gospel churches
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Hokeyposted 13 years ago
nv;'efoi278t8gvnbwwvk/wqe;iori5'q fnrj3v;2193ui] h3o1von[7[347t[1 gnr2iv;q452buy85

Sorry. I was overcome by the spirit.
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Andrew0208posted 13 years ago
Sometimes I wonder why people spend more time on things meaningless to them. First of all it is the walk of "faith." Mind you, anyone can blah blah blah! The Scriptures cannot be broken! John 10:35. These words are beyond the letters...They're Spirit and Life.

It will be most religious of anyone; religionists and non religionists to debate about it. If you do not accept it or believe it, good for you. Others do! Believing is a choice.
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  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  In some things, believing is an ability to ignore logic and reality. As in " the ability to ignore scientific findings because you do not agree with the results.
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  Andrew0208posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  At every point in time in daily affairs of humans, you're believing in one thing or the other, I hope anyone will not be ignoring any logic and reality doing just that. No man is an Island! Knowledge is power. The Spirit life is as real as the life you live today.
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  TheLoanConsultantposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  "Randy Godwin" what results are you referring too exactly? "Believing is an ability to ignore logic and reality". What logic & what reality are we ignoring? As far as I know, there hasn't been any scientific findings to prove unequivocally that there is no God, so what in the world are you talking about?
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Andrew0208posted 13 years ago
Never will I get distracted on things that truly work in my hands and on my creative tongue till date. God's Word cannot fail from ages to eternity. Speaking in tongues is only a gift in reality to them that believe. I thank God for this great gift and tool of the Spirit for diverse manifestations of God's Spirit.

Still learning more of God's Spirit on the same. It is meaningful and resourceful to me and many others across the globe, so I care to know more of Him.
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