Tongues is a multiple type of communication. From a OT/NT perspective it is the ability to speak AND understand multiple human languages. So, I suppose you could. This was a portion the 'Pentecost' event.
And remember according to Torah & some Kabbalah teaching, we humans at one point spoke one united language of all languages.
There is supposedly a language of angels -which I personally have never 'heard'. But I suppose there is always a faint possibility.
My recommendation is that you read 1 Corinthians chapters 12 and 13, as well as Acts Chapters 2 - 4 for the biblical sources. Pray, meditate, consider, then choose and act as you see fit.
As you can see, on this thread there is a wide variety of interpretations opinions from the embracing to the mocking. Each of us puts our our experiences, education,choices etc. into the mix and as is obvious from this thread, these vary widely.
Now as to my thoughts on it: It is a "gift" and that implies and act of will on the giver. (i.e. God) ... If a father gives a child a car, it is a common, but sad thing if the child suddenly loves the car more than the father. It is my opinion is that you may want keep that in mind as you read.
Interesting thread. The important thing to remember is that many of the gifts that God can bestow on man can be emulated by the Adversary as well to give the "appearance" of a gift. It is this latter source that I believe is prevalent in many late examples especially taking place in many churches.
Any direct communication from God in this manner will always be for a specific reason or purpose. Always. It is not given for the fun of it or to be used in a manner which no one at all knows what's being said. Confusion is not part of His purpose for us. Actually, the gift of tongues can mean many things. It can be a predisposition to learn another language so you can communicate with peoples in distant lands. It can manifest itself in common language during instruction or conversation where somehow just the right things are said that make a deep impact on an individual. It can even be someone on this platform who can properly express thoughts into words that will mean a great deal to someone on the other side of the globe or right next door. Often the gifts given are not "mysterious" as is commonly portrayed but rather are everyday occurrences happening in extraordinary ways.
speaking in tounges is not ranting off nonsensical jibberish. it is speaking in many different languages, especially ones you would never encounter or possibly know like Icelandic or Arabic or something, which is why when people truly do it, it is considered miraculous. these people who wave their hands in the air at a prayer meeting and go "blah blah blah jehaddi mooshadi blah blah' are just trying to make people think they have been siezed by the Holy Spirit.
yes, it's real. yrs ago i was praying & started speaking in tongues, & thought i slipped @ the tongue. this happened 3x B4 it stopped. i have a different gift now known as prophesy. now that i'm older & better understand speaking in tongues, i'd like 2 retry it
@poster, "what is to speak in tongues? can I speak in tongues and is it real?" You can speak in tongues if you believe. It is also meaningless to anyone who do not believe or mock the same. Speaking in tongues is a great spiritual tool in the hand of any believer who walks in the consciousness of the life of Christ resident in his/her spirit. It goes beyond the blah blah blah that anyone blahs! "For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful." I cor 14:14
You'll get the full dose of it from the whole chapter of
1 Corinthians 14
1. "Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
2. For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
3. But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
4. He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church."
If you do not believe the Scriptures, it will appear meaningless to you. That's the reality! This is not the play of religion or someone trying to impose some dumb stuff on you. It's a walk of faith which is of the Spirit.
The Bible's meaning and effectiveness of speaking in tongues has been twisted. It mostly meant (and means) a way in which the Holy Spirit allowed people of other languages to understand the Word of God when spoken in a tongue they couldn't understand. It was a translation issue. In these modern days, we usually don't have very much of a problem with understanding, and when we do, there are usually actual interpreters who perform that work.
...I grew up visiting churches where people "spoke in tongues". I believe most of it was ineffective jibberish. Also, people shouldn't speak in tongues unless they also are equipped to interpret it for everyone else's benefit. The Bible says to pray for interpretation of one's own "speaking in tongues", and also that those shall "cease". The scenario of someone speaking in "tongues" and then expecting someone else to interpret it is often done for "show", and is often even dangerously close to quenching the Spirit.
Strange on this, I think it is all in the mind, brought on by suggestion, I have seen people who claim to speak in tongues...and to be honest these people would be the last accomadation the holy spirit would seek if he were on earth.......for many it is a con job for many it is an honest belief brought on by suggestion......and the Bible says.....and so forth....
Seriously I grew up in North Carolina and was raised Southern Pentecostal. When I was a child and went to church people speaking in tounges was a common sight. It scared me as a little kid and now they wonder why I am Buddhist. lol
Yes, you can speak in tongues if you have received Jesus as your Lord and Savior. Speaking in tongues is an outward manifestation of the infilling of the Holy Spirit. It is one of the Believers most powerful weapons of warfare because Satan has no understanding of what is being prayed. Additionally, the Holy Spirit prays through us according to the Will, Purpose and Plan of God for our lives in alignment with the Word. If you read the Book of Acts, it describes what happened to the followers of Jesus who were first filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke in tongues.
Recently, a friend was ministering and she was praying in tongues, the young lady in the car with her latter testified that all she heard was english although my friend only prayed in tongues and not her natural language. There are other instances documented where people who were from different countries and who spoke various languages not to mention dialects of their own region heard the prayer in their own language although the person praying was doing so in tongues. Many people come to know Him in this way because of the power of praying in tongues.
And I assure you that praying in tongues although a very exciting gift for those that receive it...is not brought on by the power of suggestion or emotionalism but a strong belief in the power of the gift for the spiritually discerning.
If you really want to know more about Him ... The Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues ... Read Acts.
Remember - it was a quote that no one know who said it and in the public domain. That is not stealing. Still - thanks for proving my point once again. Attack some one and accuse them of stealing and then never ever back down when they show you that you are wrong. There is a word for that also.
Tsk Tsk Mark, you called me a liar and a thief many times then I went looking to see why you kept bringing it up. That's when I found your quotes that did not give credit. You can't use quotes anywhere without credits. But how saintly and innocent you are. OOps your hate is showing. It's easy to be rude when you pretend you live in France, but you wouldn't be in front of my Husband. He would have you running to hide like a little girl.
No Mark, your truth is like Satan's truth ... you see he wraps up just enough truth in a lie so that those that have an ear for a bit of truth can be decieved. Your "truth" doesn't bother me at all. I think that you are kind of cute and funny.
Mark ... would you get original? The insulting of my name thing has been done .. I don't call myself Precious ... God does ... and He calls you that too. I am precious because of Jesus. Have you learned nothing from these forums? Obviously not.
Laughing Out loud, Out loud laughing, Out loud?? Is that what you're saying? What has me going there once a year got to do with them being rude? You're not there..stop saying you are. You live in America
You know, being raised by a preacher, I know what is wrong and what is right. I went to Holiness churches all my life. Speaking in tongues was when that person was specking directly to God. It should Not be made fun of and that person was the only one that knew what the conversation was about. That is the way it is supposed to be. The bible teaches us that all sin is equal , but two sins and there are no forgiveness for these. They are suicide and blaspheming against the Holy Ghost. This is my first time coming in and commenting on these kind of topic's and it will be my last. I hold God close to my heart and give him thanks everyday for life.
Hi Raymond, I don't personally know of people or have seen people who have spoken in tongues. There are a couple of Protestant groups who are more familiar with it such as the Pentecostals. I would suggest that you visit a Pentecostal church service and talk to the ministers and members there to learn more about it. They would be very open to discussing it with you.
Wow, I swear as these threads go on and on te further from any kind of truth do they get sometimes. After a person has accepted Jesus into their heart, and they are then baptized in water, the next step is to then be baptized in the holy spirit, which then allows you to become a vessel for God, the trinity to use you in his service, and the speaking in tongues is an outward display that this has taken place, and that you are a vessel of God. It is possible for some people to "fake" this I suppose, but why would one except to protray to be someone that he isn't. I have been baptized in the Holy Spirit many years ago, and it is something that is almost supernatural to experience. It also made a difference in my life in that I felt it was much easier for me to discuss my walk with God and my experiences with God with other people, and to have discussions such as this one.
You never cease to amaze me....do you only believe in things that you understand? Let me answer for you, "No!"
Example: Whatever area of life that you believe to be true and in which you are not a master in, you don't understand, therefore you are subject to the "immature" category that you have reserved for believers.
believe: to have confidence in the truth, the existence, or the reliability of something, although without absolute proof that one is right in doing so: Only if one believes in something can one act purposefully.
understand: to perceive the meaning of; grasp the idea of; comprehend: to understand Spanish; I didn't understand your question. 2. to be thoroughly familiar with; apprehend clearly the character, nature, or subtleties of: to understand a trade. 3. to assign a meaning to; interpret: He understood her suggestion as a complaint. 4. to grasp the significance, implications, or importance of: He does not understand responsibility. 5. to regard as firmly communicated; take as agreed or settled: I understand that you will repay this loan in 30 days. 6. to learn or hear: I understand that you are going out of town. 7. to accept as true; believe: I understand that you are trying to be truthful, but you are wrong. 8. to construe in a particular way: You are to understand the phrase literally. 9. to supply mentally (something that is not expressed).
I know that you are poking fun and it is supposed to irritate the belivers in this forum....but, if I were you I wouldn't write any more posts faking tongues....You might want to stop whle you are ahead........
God is ok with you not knowing Him and not reverencing Him, but I don't think that mocking His Spirit is a good idea.......you are opening a door for the devil to jump right in your stuff...
See, as an unbeliever, you don't have any power over Satan and his demons....so he can literally run rampant through your life and you couldn't stop him......we (believers) on the other hand do have authority over the devil, because it was given to all of us by Jesus after He rose from the dead.....and we know the reality of the person of the Holy Spirit....
I can speak for us all and say that we are going to pray for you that your lack of understanding be forgiven you.......'cause your REALLY don't know what you're doing............and most of all because we know that Jesus loves you
you say the Devil can't do anything to you because you have authority over him and that atheists don't. But all the cases of evil possession are christians. I never heard of an Atheist possessed ! so who's the Devil messing up with ??
We will be going to Athens then to the beach in May. It's a ferry ride over to France. Let me know where to meet you. If you live there we'll be able to meet and say Hi. Obviously you didn't visit the links I provided, that says something being Public Domain does not give a person the right to use the material.
I live here sweetie pie. Taking a ferry from Athens, Greece to Zacharo, Greece, then taking another boat to Italy - if you are lucky - LOL - and driving to France? From where? Messina? LOL
Deary me. You must have time and money to burn. Last time I drove to the south of Italy it took me 2 days and cost me E400 in fuel tolls and hotels - and I live on the border. LOLOLOL Cheaper than by plane? LOL
Seriously - LOL Drop me an email though my PM when you get here - I would love to meet you.
having been born and mired deep in the Bible Belt, I have witnessed many people talking in tongues in several different churches. Want to know what they say? Yabba dabba yabba dabba yabba, or something similar. There is usually someone who claims to be able to interpret the jibberish. This would usually be the preacher or his illiterate wife.
It's amazing how these two, two syllable words could always be counted on to mean everyone was going to hell except those who went to the particular church. The snake handlers are just as crazy as the tongue speakers. But they usually pull the snakes fangs,JUST IN CASE! Nut cases!
Speaking in tongues used to refer to speaking the language of heaven. It was suppose to be the Holy Spirit talking to God from your heart in the language. Some people thought that speaking in tongues meant speaking another language from earth that others would know. Unfortunately what is the use of speaking another language unless the ones that are to hear it do- like the Disciples spoke other languages but knew what they were saying and talked to the people that also spoke that language. Is that what is happening in these churches that speak in tongues?
fortunately for us, CJ, no. I was very close witness to the Pentecostal Uber-church thing. And know 1st hand -be them Born Again, Pentecostal, Church of Christ, Assembly of god, etc etc. Not one has actually proven to speak in multiple languages w/ interpretation.
On one occasion, a man in the audience just happened to be from so-in-so country that the 'minister' swore was the tongue of choice. The dude was like WTF. I never laughed so hard and cried so hard at the same time. Was my first & last day there.
Speaking in tongues by Christians first occurred during Pentecost. Luke records the account in the book of Acts. Fifty days after Christ's crucifixion, a group of believers were gathered in Jerusalem at a room near the temple. Jesus had "commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father" (Acts 1:4 KJV). Many Jews that had traveled far were also there to celebrate the traditional festival of Pentecost. It is with this backdrop that Luke records what happened:
…Suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. (Acts 2:2-4 KJV)
Filled with the Holy Spirit, the believers began to speak in other languages they neither learned nor understood. The result was that many passers-by heard the gospel proclaimed in their own languages. In bewilderment, they became convicted by the message they heard and became believers in Jesus Christ.
if you suddenly started speaking FLUENTLY in some incredibly difficult language like Icelandic, which is considered almost impossible for anyone who is not Icelandic to learn, why wouldn't that be considered 'speaking in tongues'?
anybody can spout jibberish and claim to be filled with the Holy Spirit. let them speak fluently in many complex languages and i might even be filled with awe.
With Benny Hinn you say? I love that guy! Any smoother and he would slide up his own ornamental! A perfect team! I can't wait to see that! It will make all the satirical comedies look lame! I got Sunday morning here, god you guys are slow!
I think it is actually a documented thing, there is research about the difference between it and meditation, speaking in tongues disconnects the person from their conscious mind and meditation actually generates new types of brain wave activity. in essence speaking in tongues reflects so little brain activity at the time that researchers could not reason it to mean anything conclusive while beta wave activity associated with meditative states showed enlarging of critical areas of the brain, as well as improvements to the performance speed of that brain. (not that inconclusive disproves validity, I simply state what the program suggested.
I have experienced watching someone who acted as if they spoke in tongues. Several someone's, in fact. It sounded like google de google de google. Of course, later on I found out the best one at faking this was a child molester and also a part time holiness preacher. It seems to be a form of self hypnosis for some believers.
I think speaking in tongues reverts back to making noises before language was language as we know it. I have no evidence of this, but it explains why studies show a lack of activity in the control and language regions of the brain, and why speaking in tongues is a "language" of few repetitive syllables which generally mimic the style of your church leaders, and will change when influenced by hearing someone speak in tongues with syllables that were formerly not part of one's speaking in tongues "vocabulary".
Sometimes I wonder why people spend more time on things meaningless to them. First of all it is the walk of "faith." Mind you, anyone can blah blah blah! The Scriptures cannot be broken! John 10:35. These words are beyond the letters...They're Spirit and Life.
It will be most religious of anyone; religionists and non religionists to debate about it. If you do not accept it or believe it, good for you. Others do! Believing is a choice.
At every point in time in daily affairs of humans, you're believing in one thing or the other, I hope anyone will not be ignoring any logic and reality doing just that. No man is an Island! Knowledge is power. The Spirit life is as real as the life you live today.
"Randy Godwin" what results are you referring too exactly? "Believing is an ability to ignore logic and reality". What logic & what reality are we ignoring? As far as I know, there hasn't been any scientific findings to prove unequivocally that there is no God, so what in the world are you talking about?
Never will I get distracted on things that truly work in my hands and on my creative tongue till date. God's Word cannot fail from ages to eternity. Speaking in tongues is only a gift in reality to them that believe. I thank God for this great gift and tool of the Spirit for diverse manifestations of God's Spirit.
Still learning more of God's Spirit on the same. It is meaningful and resourceful to me and many others across the globe, so I care to know more of Him.
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