Would you trade the Bible for a billion dollars?

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Onusonusposted 15 years ago
Sell the one thing that kept the Earth from being a big waste?! Never..........
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bojanglesk8posted 15 years ago
Duh.
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Angelladywriterposted 15 years ago
There is never enough money to trade for God's precious word the Bible. I have read it numerous times and still find it the most fascinating book I have ever read. I am an English Lit major and recently published my current book, "Nephilims: Children of the Fallen Angels." In Genesis chapter six, I discovered more than 10 years ago the account where fallen angels came down to earth and had relations with women creating a violent hybrid race. My sister and I wrote the manuscript and circulated it and the movie industry loved it. People are still hungry for truth and that is what the Bible gives us. This week I was reading Judges chapters 15-18. I loved the power that Jehovah God gave Samson to the point that he killed a thousand Phillistines with the jawbone of an ass. I also learned that Samson remained powerful until he left God by revealing the secret of his Nazariteship to Delilah in chapter 16 of Judges. These books of the Bible such as Joshua and Judges trully teach that God is looking for those who will be faithful to him and if we remain faithful our Creator will fight our battles against our enemies. There is no money in the world that would cause me to trade the Bible for that kind of knowledge.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  ...but if you're a Philistine, no mercy for you: off with your head with an ass-bone
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  CMHypnoposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  There seems to be a lot of enjoyment of violence here? Are christians waiting to be given 'power' from god so that they can run around and smite thousands of unbelievers? I thought that one of the commandments was 'thou shall not kill'?
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  SirDentposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  That is a common misconception. Jesus came to save the world not destroy it. The power is given all believers to fight against the real enemy and his name is Satan.
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  CMHypnoposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So why are religious folk in these threads getting off on the idea of thousands of philistines getting smited with an asses jawbone?
  
  Ditto the Rapture. Believers getting a grandstand seat with Jesus to watch the rest us get nuked, drowned, diseased et al? What's that about? I thought that religion was supposed to be about love, not violence and revenge on people who have the temerity to not hold the same beliefs as you?
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  SirDentposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  War-time is always tough especially on those who are the losers. it is not that people get off on the fact that many were killed, but that they were killed by one single man. If the Phillistines had left Israel alone, it would not have happened.
  
  Many nations declared war against Israel. Not much different than today. People want to destroy God's people, then they cry foul if God's people fight back.
  
  All who come to Jesus will be with Him. There is no grandstand seat. Rewards come from doing good things. Punishment comes from doing bad things. It is a simple concept to understand.
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  CMHypnoposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Surely, if you believe that god created the world and all the people in it, then all people created are god's people? Why would there be god's chosen few? And if god wanted everyone to be christians why not just create all people as christians? How could a just and loving god penalise someone just because they had never heard of Jesus?
  
  So it's ok for one man to kill thousands of Philistines? Killing is never right, just as war is never right. After all Jesus told you to turn the other cheek! Someone, somewhere has to implement this or wars and violence will never stop.
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i_am_Legendposted 15 years ago
The way this economy is going give me my money! you could always find other inspirational books.
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Brenda Durhamposted 15 years ago
Mark,
You asked me two questions, one of them twice, one of them not very nicely.

Hmm....I'm wondering if you really wanna know my answers or not.

The first one is that I'm not necessarily afraid of homosexuals.
I do fear for their souls, and I do fear their immoral influence on immature innocent people. Fearing them?----in a way, it's just common sense to be cautious, if not fearful, of what anyone might do or advocate for when they're so blatantly against the Word.....
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  That pretty much describes homophobia, "The word" is full of it!
  "Fear them Oh people, for they are different!"
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  Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Well - any fool can see you are scared of homosexuals. I just wondered why. Now I know - because they go against the word.
  
  That is a substantial part of God's creation you are scared of there Brenda. Homosexuals. atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Buddhists, Wiccans etc etc etc.
  
  I guess the point I was trying to make (and have done so) was that a belief in the biblical God causes mostly fear rather than any sort of peace and love.
  
  Kristians Kausing Konflict is more a reference to this statement that you have just made. The very fact that you have publicly stated that you are cautious and fearful of any one who goes against the Word pretty much means you are in Konflict with those people.
  
  I am not cautious of you Brenda. Your beliefs are repulsive to me and your misinterpretation of the bible to the point where you need to be cautious and fearful of 80% of the human race pretty much tells me all I need to know about your faith. And the fact that you think fire cleanses the soul reminds me of St Dominic's approach and I thank Goodness that the church has no official business in state affairs any more.
  
  There will no doubt be a legally, church-married, homosexual couple adopting children near you soon. You might want to consider home schooling any children in your family in case they catch this nasty disease. It is catching you know - go within 50 feet of a gay man and you stand a 50/50 chance of turning. Science has proven this and they are keeping the facts secret from you. But we know. Look it up on teh internetz.
  
  Welcome to the 21st century.
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Brenda Durhamposted 15 years ago
...same as you. You seem to be totally against the Word too.
I'd say I am cautious in some ways about you too, yes. That's my prerogative; just as you may claim the same about me or other Christians. You've either got some sort of "fear" about the Word, or else you're just determined to mock it and/or Christians (evidence your listing of "KKK" about Christians in your earlier post. That was below the belt, but indeed you intended it to be, I'd say.)
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  The Bible is not the "Word". The Word as written about by John is not the written word and has nothing to do with the Bible. It's not about literature at all. This is the Christian (EC) take on what the Word is. It's a terrible bastardization of the true meaning of it. Shame shame shame that you have been given a shallow interpretation of what the Word is.
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HubChiefposted 15 years ago
It depends if I am left with people with whom I would enjoy materialistic life or other person is the only one on this earth?

If I am the only one with this crazy dude then, no point giving or not giving coz that is all we have to exchange all our life till we also die!!

If I still have nears and dears left on earth (where there is not bible), getting billion dollars is worth it as I would make their materialistic life easier. I feel I have God inside my heart from where no one can take it. Be it Bible or any other kind. so wirtten scripture... no problem to exchange for $$$
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earnestshubposted 15 years ago
When the bible and quoran are gone, so is all the "proof" and sources of nonsense, so no one will have any more "proof of god."
There is not another source for this nonsense so religion will just die! Bring it on!
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shinujohn2008posted 15 years ago
My answer is , Never.

No one will sell the bible , unless he is a book dealer
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Susana Sposted 15 years ago
I'd sell the bible without a thought - it's unnecessary and causes more trouble than it solves.

For Mark and Earnest - I came across this and thought you might enjoy it. No mockery please since it is the pure word of God: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69EHLSnWKNQ

If you've already seen it my apologies, if not, enjoy
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Hokeyposted 15 years ago
Its just a man made book. Thats all. I can write a comic book and call it the inspired word of God. Doesn't make it true.
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BDazzlerposted 15 years ago
The various atheist/agnostic responses don't disturb me. (Mark, no offense, but your replies were pretty predictable given your past responses and for the most part based on valid observations.)

What disturbs me is the idea from some Christians that somehow the printed bible is more sacred than the Author.

If you believe, as I do, that the bible was inspired by the Holy Spirit then a printed bible is not the source of God's word, just a convenient repository.

We've only had a printed bible for a little under 600 years. That means that for over 1400 years Christians did just fine without one.

The printed bible is nice. But it's not God. The destruction of the last bible on the planet would be inconvenient for us. But the Author would not stay silent.
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  Valerie Fposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  And for hundreds of years before the Guttenberg Bible, we had beautifully hand written Bibles.
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  BDazzlerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  That were available to only a handful of privileged people. Don't get me wrong, you can't swing a cat in my house without hitting a bible. But I don't worship the printed word. I worship the Author.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Authors ?
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  BDazzlerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I stand by my original statement. I understand that you don't agree.
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Hokeyposted 15 years ago
The rapture isnt even in the bible. Just another example of how the original stories have been changed by man for man. As far as your Jesus goes, have you heard of the egyptian God Raa? He had a son named Horus. Same story. Immaculate conception, virgin birth, performed miracles, crucified, resurrected in 3 days. How about the Epic of Gilgamesh? Same stories were used in the old testament
such as the exodus and the great floods. So tell me how your religion is the only true one when most of it's stories are recycled from religions before it.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Most of what is written in "The" bible. (I'm still not sure which of the many conflicting versions is the official one) came from stories told in other religions.
  
  The immaculate conception and resurection myths are present in many middle-eastern cultures.
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qwarkposted 15 years ago
I ask and ask and ask and get nothing but silence or a-dime-a-dozen opinions, based soley on hope and conjecture.
I'll ask again. What is this god thing that so many believe in?
Why do they believe in it?
Why would a person let "it" guide their lives and actions?
How can so many be so easily fooled and led?
Why are so many so willing to adamantly fixate on a metaphysical "thing" which can't be defined in terms other than pure speculation?
Is the majority of human population insane Or are we just an incipient, confused, infantile species of life?
Hmmmm?
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Valerie Fposted 15 years ago
If the world is so bad off that there is only one Bible left, how am I supposed to believe that the dollar hasn't been rendered worthless by whatever crisis had also wiped out so many books?
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Chloe Comfortposted 15 years ago
Totally!!!

I went to Catholic school for 8 years. Need the money way more than I need the Bible
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Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years ago
Burning it would contribute to climate change. Are bibles compostable?
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  Green Lotusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Depends on the ink.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I'm sure God would use something soy-based
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  Green Lotusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  olive oil no doubt.
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LegendaryHeroposted 15 years ago
Depends...how bad's inflation?
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marinealways24posted 15 years ago
If it was the only one left, I would try to get 5 billion for it.
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creativeone59posted 15 years ago
Plain and simple the bible, because when everything has failed, the word of God will be the only thing left standing. I believe it when God said what does it prosper us to gain all the riches and lose our soul. all the money in the world isn't worth losing my soul. Creativeone59
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, religionists can hardly wait for the end. Even the destruction of the world is less important than being right about "the end times" What a crock!
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  (Q)posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  If we were governed by nature and the physical laws of the universe, our survival could be in jeopardy given various sets of circumstances and events.
  
  But, if we were the children of God, we were His creation and only He could determine our future, wouldn't He not ever allow His creation to fail? Wouldn't that mean He failed?
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  Brenda Durhamposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  He put in place a thing called mercy. A huge amount of mercy including His Love and His sacrifice and the assurance of Salvation IF we Love and obey Him.
  If we fail after all that, it's our faults.
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  (Q)posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  That doesn't answer the question. Would God allow us to fail since we were His creation? Our failure is His failure.
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RKHenryposted 15 years ago
Why Brenda? You offering? I don't own a bible. But for a billion dollars, I could buy one to trade.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I don't have a billion dollars. And you'd have to actually have a Bible first, before you'd be able to sell it.
  Remember in this scenario there's only one Bible left, and it's in your possession.
  
  But since you don't have a Bible, guess you're just outta luck...
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Deborah Sextonposted 15 years ago
The Christian Bible as you stated: I would give up in a heartbeat especially for 1 billion dollars.

Your words:
(Please, no conflict about Bible versions, etc.; I mean the Christian Bible we now have; and please no "James T. Kirk scenario".....it's a cut and dried decision; you must choose between The Bible and a billion dollars.)
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Brenda Durhamposted 15 years ago
My opinion is that, yes, God would allow us to fail.

No, our failure isn't His failure. Because He created us with free will.

He's God, after all, and could create more humans if He wanted to. We are, basically, just clay in the Potter's hands.

BUT (theres' always a "but" and an "and" with the Lord!)

But it's because He loves us that He keeps giving us chances to choose Him.
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  (Q)posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Then, as I said, our failure is His failure.
  
  You therefore have to also admit that your god is not perfect because he has the capacity for failure. A perfect god could never fail.
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Brenda Durhamposted 15 years ago
He never fails.
He is perfect.
Think what you will; twist what you will. That changes nothing.
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  (Q)posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I am not twisting anything. Our failure is His failure. He created us. He created imperfection, therefore God has the capacity for failure and is Himself imperfect.
  
  It shouldn't be such a big deal to admit God is not perfect. That would explain a lot about us, don't you think?
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gamergirlposted 15 years ago
Why is it that when a logical series of questions are presented, the "argument ender" seems to be "don't twist my words!"
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Brenda Durhamposted 15 years ago
Because it's the truth. People do try to twist words when confronted with the absolute unchanging Truth.

I explained to Q that it's man who fails, not God. Yet he clings to his own opinion and even tried to tempt me to change my mind on it.
Not gonna happen.
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  (Q)posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I'm not trying to tempt anyone, Brenda. It's very simple to understand that man shouldn't have the capacity for failure if we were created by a perfect God. The fact that man does have the capacity for failure simply means that either God is imperfect Himself or He designed us specifically to have the capacity to fail.
  
  And, to be quite frank, it would give theists a better foundation for their beliefs if they actually could admit their god was not perfect. Your arguments for His existence would be much stronger, then.
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Brenda Durhamposted 15 years ago
No.

We're not God.

And God is not us.
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  (Q)posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I never said we were God, Brenda. God is not us, but He is inside of us all and makes up everything we say and do, yes? We are His creations, are we not?
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  Brenda Durhamposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No, He doesn't make up everything we say and do.
  No, God isn't "IN" everyone.
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  (Q)posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Doesn't Jesus teach that god is in all men?
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  Brenda Durhamposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Not that I recall.
  The Bible makes a distinction between unBelievers and Believers.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  LOL
  
  My bible tells me that women are not allowed to preach. It also tells me that this sin is no worse than any other sin - such as homosexuality.
  
  Conveniently ignoring that particular sin aren't we?
  
  I suspect you have a misinterpretation all lined up though.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You're right that sin is sin.
  
  But indeed you don't see very many (if any), theives and murderers and liars goin' around fighting for "civil rights" to sanction their lying and theiving, and accusing people of hatred who say lying and theiving are bad things, now do you?
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  Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Just what exactly does that have to do with you personally going against the Word?
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  Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  But it's OK to accuse them. Sorry but sin is sin. Homosexuals are born that way and it's not a choice for them. That's like saying midgets should not fight for their rights because they are midgets.
  
  There are laws against murders that's why they don't fight for their civil rights, they have none.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  There are laws against blatant blasphemy too. God's laws.
  Used to be man's laws too.
  It's a shame those laws are being done away with.
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  (Q)posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  The Bible may very well make that distinction, but it does not preclude the fact that Jesus did teach that god was in all men. If one chooses not to accept Jesus, that doesn't mean that god was not still within them but only that the individual chose not to believe it.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Of course God is in everyone. Not everyone acknowledges this. I can take your Bible and prove it. I thought you believed in it all?
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  Brenda Durhamposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Then prove it. Remember you must take into account the full message of the Bible, not just one verse that seems to satisfy your erroneous opinion.
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Brenda Durhamposted 15 years ago
What a (again!) twisted argument!

The one thing that's true is that of course He designed us to have the capacity to fail, while also the capacity to "succeed".
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  (Q)posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  This is not a twisted argument, Brenda. It is an argument in which you've been shown a contradiction of your belief system.
  
  Excellent! Notice how that helps to support your argument.
  
  In your opinion, do you think we are succeeding or failing as a creation of God?
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  Brenda Durhamposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I couldn't say as a whole, because I don't know about everyone.
  And I don't consider it as a "whole" necessarily, because each person must work out their own salvation in their hearts.
  
  And by "succeed" I mean succeed in staying on the path to ultimate Salvation.
  
  Some are "succeeding", some are failing.
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Brenda Durhamposted 15 years ago
What do you mean?
Are you calling me a ....(gulp)....preacher??

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  Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  What do you think you are doing? You preach every time you open your mouth. My bible tells me that is a sin. Therefore you are going against the Word. Why should I believe you when you preach anything when you are not prepared to follow it yourself?
  
  Women are not allowed to publicly express an opinion on the Word.
  
  Why do you go against the Word?
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  Brenda Durhamposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Again, you're grasping at straws here.
  There are instances of women being messengers about the Lord.
  Who was it who carried the news about Christ's resurrection? One of those was a woman. And women who are Believers have the same call and authority to carry that Gospel to others via the "Great Commission" as men do, within the bounds of decency and order and as long as they don't usurp the man's authority. That all depends, too, on the man being a proper preacher! I can't imagine any woman NOT having the right to speak up if any male preacher were to speak unTruths from the pulpit.
  
  Much of the Bible's intent about this gender issue is just that---women should maintain their femininity, not dressiing or acting like a male; and men should maintain their masculinity, not dressing or acting feminine.
  
  ...Sometimes I myself cringe a bit when I hear women preachers whose voice and inflections are an imitation of a man's personality and mannerisms in the pulpit. I'm not sure that's totally wrong, since I can't judge their hearts, but it does create a distraction from the message when I see them do that.
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Brenda Durhamposted 15 years ago
I'm not a preacher.
But I am a messenger.

By the way, maybe you could point out the Scripture that says a woman can't preach?
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  Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  According to the KJV it says women are not to speak in Church. It doesn't say they can't preach just not in church.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  There ya go, Mark.
  Deborah answered that question for you.
  
  Perhaps Timothy had some reason to tell the particular group he was speaking to, to make sure the women were in submission (perhaps they were unruly or bossy in church).
  I find that a possibility because, from what I can gather, Timothy's teaching on this subject relates to Paul's teachings in 1 Corinthians. Paul mentioned women praying and prophesying in 1 Corinthians 11: 5; so apparently those things weren't prohibited. The main intent was, again, for a church service to be decent and in order. Paul admonishes both men and women to follow the rules so that there will not be confusion in the church services. This is laid out in 1 Corinthians 14: 29-40. A point often overlooked in those verses and preceding verses is the subject of speaking in tongues. It's possible Paul was directly referring to that, telling everyone that no one should interrupt a service by speaking in tongues unless they did it properly. He also, as Timothy did, meant that women, yes, are to learn from the man! I agree that men should be the preachers! I think it's only very few women who might belong in a pulpit as a preacher. A man just naturally carries himself and speaks with more authority than a woman can, normally. There are usually a few exceptions to every social-setting rule, that being one of them, since we do know there was a judge named Deborah, and that women were indeed messengers and witnesses about Jesus in the Bible!
  
  One last point (and it's subject to controversy and debate I'm sure)-----
  Verse 36 has a note of sarcasm in it.
  It says:
  
  "What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?"
  
  Paul is apparently still speaking to the men in that verse.
  What need for sarcasm unless he was either being sarcastic in verses 34 and 35, or else giving the men a what-for about THEIR pride in being prophets and spiritual?
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Mark Knowlesposted 15 years ago
"A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent" 1 Timothy 2:11-12, NIV
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Brenda Durhamposted 15 years ago
And, really, I think I'm about done with even trying to offer explanations to most of your questions now, Mark.

Some of your references to Christ in another thread were extremely offensive, and I'm not even sure you deserve anymore response.
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  Jeramiposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  BRENDA .. JUST WANTED TO SAY HA .. HAD TO WORK TO DAY... JUST GOT HOME A BIT AGO. Goina go hose the dirt off.
  
  Just wanted to say ha
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  Brenda Durhamposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Hello Jerami.
  Hope you relax and get some rest.
  Construction work is hard.
  At least, I think I remember you saying you're in construction? I might be wrong.....my memory's not always so good.
  Anyway, I want to compliment you on your hard work. It's an honorable thing for a man to get his hands dirty at work.
  Too many men these days with lily-white hands just shuffling other people's money around!
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defenestratethisposted 15 years ago
A billion...? Thats a lot, but it indicates that the buyer must want it really, really bad. Seeing as how Ive got the ONLY one in existance, and going by his EXTREME need to have this bible...I'd hustle him pretending that Id had better offers :ccol: and hold out till he comes up with say...3 or 4 billion...yeah, thats it Then, Id quit my job and buy a publishing company and print out an infinite supply of new bibles in which I would be portrayed as The Real Messiah and that everyone must worship me and do what I say. Id have em mailed to every place on earth..and then, oh yes...then I WOULD RULE THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! heh heh sorry..had a lot of java this morning :ccol:
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  Brenda Durhamposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Wow. haha
  Yeah; quite a plan you have there, defenestratethis.
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Denno66posted 15 years ago
A billion dollars is a bit much, but, hey, the Natives of many lands have passed down their lore through word of mouth for millenia. The money could be used to help others where the book may not.
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Onusonusposted 15 years ago
Even if we were in some post apocalyptic (Mad Max Knockoff) world, and Gary Oldman and his biker goons were hunting me down for it, it wouldn't matter because the last bible would probably end up being in brail. *Spoiler*
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Paul Wingertposted 15 years ago
Selling the last copy of Bible is no different than selling a remaining copy of any fairy story book. I'd like my $1 billion in cash please.
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