You have, right now, the only remaining printed copy of The Holy Bible in your possession. There are no copies left in any form, printed or otherwise, offline or online or audio or anything except perhaps in the memory of some people.
You're offered a billion dollars for it. You aren't allowed to make a copy of it or have a copy made of it in any form before giving it up.
You know that the person you sell it to will destroy it without allowing any copying of it in any form.
What would you do?---keep it? Or sell it?
(Please, no conflict about Bible versions, etc.; I mean the Christian Bible we now have; and please no "James T. Kirk scenario".....it's a cut and dried decision; you must choose between The Bible and a billion dollars.)
What would you do, and why?
Give me the Money!!!
Truth will find a way, and the Bible is an outdated reference anyway.
I would love to say I would not sell it. It would be a great thing to be able to do. But like most men and women, I am still a human being and would most likely sell it.
To be truthful, no one would know what they would actually do in a situation until they are in it.
Once I have all the knowledge in the book, no problem will sell it then.
Its the knowledge which is priceless and timeless.
I would give him a discount if I could watch and make sure it was burned. Then we would need to find something else to fight about and people like you would have to start thinking for themselves instead of regurgitating 2,000 year old fears.
Do homosexuals scare you very much or just a little? Do you think fire cleanses the soul?
We have it hear. Mark Knowles has just advocated book burning.
Aw sweetie pie - just that one book - you know - the last bible in existence. LOLOLOLOL You guys are funny. I make a statement regarding a hypothetical situation and I am advocating book burning.
Talk about desperation.
Unwanted terms of "endearment" count as sexual harassment in the US. I have asked you before to not call me that. Knock it off.
Ah well - making statements out of context like the one you have just done about me counts as libel in my country and yours and I have asked you not to do that as well. Sweetie pie.
I thought sweetie pie was a joke ?
Sexual harrasment is too strong ,I think. In this case.
The real trouble will start when the actual "Sweetie Pie" learns her name has been used in vain.
I would take the money.
I would love to see the worlds religious leaders use memory, tradition, and their own true internal beliefs to rebuild their own versions.
It would be like Homer, being told anew to a new generation without the bias' of the past getting in the way.
Also, I'm unemployed and could really use some dough. : )
I would sell it because I think it is false and with a billion dollars I could help alot of people.
hi Brenda. i know i have been quite vocal about the Bible, its inconsistencies, etc. still, i cringe at the thought of any book being destroyed, right? and if this scenario were to take place...the Bible, the only one in existence would be destroyed forever..
i wonder how much would live on in the minds of Man...could they recreate it from memory? no copies would exist but no one can erase what is in the minds of Man, so i would take the billion dollars, but i would do good works with a lot of it. i mean, you could get like a thousand priests and put them in a room and i bet they could rewrite it, good as new.
I would take the money.
There is such a lot of interesting, useful or kind things one could do with a billion dollars, while Bibles seems only to be a great inspiration for bores and freaks.
Even if the Bible is obviously part of the world's treasures of literature, and valuable on that level, the good that could be done with a billion dollars would have to outweigh it. In a world where malaria shots cost 12 cents, it would be criminal not to take the money.
Aside from that, you do not say for sure whether anyone does have it remembered (memorized, whatever the word is). If someone does, then it is not lost in any case
I am amazed at all these replies. For those that said they would burn it or sell it for one dollar, etc...we get it. You don't like God. What's strange is, I don't like square dancing, and I can prove it. I have never looked at a square dancing post, or website, or anything related. I would never take the time to reply to a post. I understand, it is harder to stay away from God talk, because of that burning conscience he gave to even the unbelievers.
Those reply's do not amaze me though. They are expected and simple. What is truly discouraging is that some people who have read it and claim to follow it would still sell it because "they already got theirs." What about everyone else???
Fair enough you don't like square dancing. Have you ever been told you will go to hell for not square dancing? Were you forced to go to a private square dancing school? Do people come knocking on your door to share with you the good news of square dancing? Have you ever been forced to spend your sundays square dancing? How many people who like square dancing have gone to war to force others to abandon their love of ballroom dancing or clog dancing? How many laws in our society are influenced by square dancing? How many people have you met who do not respect your dislike of square dancing and forced it down your throat?
Funny thing is that you probably would be very vocal in your dislike of square dancing if you had to endure all of the points mentioned above even if you did like other forms of dancing or preferred finding another way to exercise and be fit. I have profound connection to God and its more then a matter or liking god or not but I also have a profound hatred for the pervasive and insidious nature of organized religion (not to be confused with the people who genuinely embrace the positive teaching of religion, meaning the institution of religion not individual people). If religion didn't dominate so much in life and society I would not have had the chance to develop more then a mild irritation toward it which would be much easier to let go of and leave alone.
I like money but I love Jesus and I'll hang with him rather than count money!
to feed every hungry person.
shelter every homeless person.
clothe every naked person.
and the rest to hire a demolition team to knock down every church & science lab.
I'd sell it and take the money. My faith may have originated from what was written in that book but now it needs no words for it to continue.
I'd keep the Bible.
But I'm a mercenary at heart. I know that people would want copies of the only available Bible, so I'd probably make copies and sell it (at a discount to Christians of course). And because it's so valuable, I'll probably have public readings of it and attract a lot of converts.
Now you're a person who's got it right! Good job!
I think this was the plot to the movie The Book of Eli, which was pretty good. After an apocalyptic war, all the copies of the bible were destroyed because it was thought to be the source of all wars. Only one copy remained and was in the possession of a man who had visions that he was to save and protect it. It starred Denzel Washington and had sort of a Mad Max feel to it.
It sounds interesting, is it out yet? Sounds like I should go see it.
It came out a few weeks ago. I liked it, and I'm not an especially religious person.
I thought it was a decent movie. One guy was trying to protect the final copy of the Bible and another guy wanted to steal it because he thought he could use it to rule the world.
I would sell it, as for me it's not important. I don't believe so, why would I care what they do with it?
The money's welcome !
Bible. Planning for, and preservation of, the future is essential to the spiritual and temporal welfare of the human family. I would not succumb to immediate gratification of worldly material like money. I would save the Bible to preserve it for my posterity to learn from and pass on to their posterity. It's the preservation of the family of Adam. What's at stake? Ultimately losing favor from the One in whom we are here to foster faith in.
Thanks for the thread! It's good food for thought.
Since there is only one copy remaining, does that mean that everyone that lost their copy also lost favor with God?
Please don't misunderstand me. Without the Word mankind would eventually fall out of favor and slide into a degraded state of being. If there were only one copy left I would want to preserve it as a hope that my posterity would read and apply it's message that there may be hope for the future. That is a far cry from saying that if you lose or get rid of your Bible you are out of favor with God. Nothing of the sort was hinted in my response. Falling out of favor was meant as a mankind status. Preserving the one copy would be my means of hope and preservation for civility of man.
You believe that religion keeps people on the right path? I do not. I see selfish, egotists promoting a narrow belief from a book of lies designed to frighten and control other people, while making out the threats they are making came from god, so no responsibility taken for the insults to non believers such as "god says you will rot in hell" said with love! Hilarious!
I'd sell it. I could rewrite a new version that would be more coherent and easier to follow and say God gave me that one instead, me being a writer and all. I would just found it on the principles of doing good rather than talking about doing good or reading what was written over and over all the time and arguing with others about what "doing good" meant rather than just doing good. In fact, I would give Jesus a line just like that. He said unto his disciples, "Don't be a bunch of pedantic jerkoffs. It's simple really. Do nice things for people. Go outside and actually put your hands on something that needs done, shut your goddamn yappy trap, and actually do good works. As in physically do them. This will be easier if you aren't in church all the time talking about how good you are or want to be." I could give him lots of good lines like that in my version, lines that are probably really, really close to what he actually said and meant.
since i knew the buyer was going to destroy it, i'd let it go for half price. but not before i copied down the opening sentence:
"Many years later, as he faced the firing squad, Colonel Aureliano Buendia was to remember that distant afternoon when his father took him to discover ice."
wait. i have my novels mixed up.
Does Kidnapping someone with a Photographic Memory constitute Cheating?
Even if you give them Half?,,and treat them Really Good?
I am probably the strangest Agnostic in the world. I would keep it only because we have lost so much of our history already and it would be sad to see something that helped to form so many cultures gone. True or not it is a part of our culture as human beings,and has been a building block that many societies where based on.
I'd sell it for much less. Another group of control freaks would surely come along and write "the word" in a way that would suit them.
They already have, Ron.
How many "versions" of the Bible do you suppose there are?
Mucho, many, plentiful.
Twisted and misinterpreted in the process....
That's a great point. Which version would actually be the one for sale? Is there a discount for "The Living Bible" ?
Very Much the bitter truth I'm afraid Daniel. More and more people are starting to understand that.
Personally, I think in time (a long time from now) the Bible will finally be noted for the convoluted, self conflicted, story book that it is. Based in half-truths, small particles of history and alot of misunderstanding and fabrication.
However, that day has not yet come.
So sell it for the dime store novel it actually is.
You are right, at least for the most part. There will come a time when Bibles will be meaningless to anyone. Of course this will be after all believers have been caught away. No one will be left to preach or teach the Bible.
Change comes from the inside. From self awareness and one's relationship with God, or whatever that higher or greater power is than ourselves. And so I agree.
Change starts inside but comes from an outside source. Man cannot chnage himself. This is where so many fail. They think they are god and can do whatever they desire to change in whatever way they want.
Until one comes to the knowledge of Jesus Christ, there is no change.
God is not outside of us, really. He created us, so we are an extension of HIM. Therefore, as father to son/daughter, we are part of him and he is already in us.
Change comes from the inside only because that's where the source originated. There's no such such thing as "outside" in that context. At least that's what I think. The universe and everything it is an extension of God, or higher power, or whatever it is.
I'm with you on this one Daniel. You can only ever change yourself. Change may come from an outside influence but that's what reflection is for. You see the non-truths in others and apply it to yourself. You cannot change anyone but yourself. Very disempowering to say "I changed him/her." You could say you had an influence hopefully not of the brainwashing deceptive kind. Unfortunately there is allot of the deceptive kind going on.
Tis always within, always.
Except during the Millenium, in my opinion. The more righteous portion would be upon the Earth but it is not said that they will all be of one faith. The gospel will continue to be preached not only by those in mortality but also by those who shall come forth in the First Resurrection. The complete "oness" of faith of all who reside on Earth will not be fulfilled until after the final battle which is to happen after the thousand years of the Millenium when Satan shall be loosed for a "season" to gather his final cavalry of followers.
In my opinion there is still much use for the Bible and other sacred records for many many years to come.
That's my opinion, but I thoroughly respect your opinion as well.
I have changed and grown all my life. What I see is that those stuck in religion change nothing, no nothing, and just spout all their life knowledge from a psychotic text. Not my idea of a life at all!
You have grown in stature, knowledge and wisdom, but you have not really changed.
I do agree with that in a way.
Mankind still has the old ways, and at one level has not changed much at all. Cavemen dragged women home to cook the meat they had gathered that gave them status. Now the status is a Porche instead of the meat, but the process is little different.
I thought porsches might be out. I hear that Audi is making a strong comeback.
I have just done some research SirDent. You are well right! The V8 Audi is worth half a mammoth carcass in direct value!
Someone needs to write a hub on them now while they are still hot.
Nah. All the knobs who used to drive BMWs now drive Audis. While I'll happly let the BMW out of a junction, Audi-man can just sit and wait as punishment for buying an Audi because they think they are better than anyone else.
Verily I say unto you, that if thou wilt be the greatest on the road, thou shouldst buy a Jag.
Isn't the Jag just a Ford? A Ford made by Tata motors? Tata to Jaguar then! Tata have been bulldusting the consumer about the compressed air car I hubbed about for years!
Yeah - I accidentally walked into one the other day and nearly put my arm through the side panel. I didn't know you could roll steel that thin.
I'd sell it.
The purpose for the Bible, in my mind, is to teach illiterate people how to read and write......and I can do that without the Bible....
There isn't a lesson in the Bible that I haven't figured out independently over the course of my own life....
Heck, I'd sell it for a million. Now, if it were the LOTR trilogy...maybe I'd think twice. :B
I would hold out for an ounce of weed to go with it lyrics, we got some right ones here who will pay the little extra I reckon!
They said a Billion Dollars, stop trying to get more money already....carton of smokes she says....
I'd keep it and hold out for more. I mean if a billion was the first offer, just think of how much the second offer would be.
For a billion bucks?!! Are you kidding? That would be the deal of the millenium. Sell! Sell! Sell!
Here in this part of world, bible is sold for 1 bucks, quran 3 bucks, and other religious books in the range of 1 to 10 bucks. Marketing people convince people in such way that they ask people to get bible(or similar religious book) for each family member. Sex and religion,both sells in this world.
What a wonderful thought! A world without the hate fear and loathing of the bible.
How to get rid of the quoran would be the next worry!
And the nonsense they were both stolen from - the Torah. Wow - you think we would learn to do without religion of would the sheeple demand a replacement?
Does the Mormon book count as a real bible?
I think burning it would do no good. We need to educate people as to what it really means. Brenda would be re-writing it from what little she could remember and it would be even worse.
"Thou shalt not suffer the homosexual to exist......."
How the heck are you these days?
Your comment struck me as curious. I've been a Mormon for several decades now and have been a leader in said faith for a great deal of that time. Never have we ever referred to the Book of Mormon as a bible. That term came from others. It is a cliche used as ammunition against us that they may influence people into believing that we do no believe in the Holy Bible. We use the King James Version of the Bible and accept it as the only Bible. However, there are many other sacred texts. We use the Book of Mormon every bit as much as we do the Holy Bible. We also use two other canons equally as well. The Bible and the Book of Mormon are both referred to in the Book of Ezekiel. When we carry our scriptures we always carry the Holy Bible in companionship with the Book of Mormon.
I thank you for this opportunity to clarify an important point of our faith.
Oh - I don't care what you call it - I was just making fun of the whole idea. I know you are not proper Christians and do not care that you chose this as an opportunity for another passive aggressive attack.
Well done - almost like a real Christian.
I am not really interested in points of your faith - it is clearly nonsense and you have proven yourself to be as aggressive in your desire for martyrdom as any real Christians. Thanks for giving me the chance to point that out once again.
I am good - how are you?
Hmmmm. Not a Christian, but aggressive like a Christian. I'll have to do some pondering on this one. Out of respect I shall endeavor to use the Captain Crunch decoder in deciphering the riddle.
I was not trying to indoctrinate. When I see an inconsistency in what someone is reporting on my chosen faith it is my duty to point it out and clarify it. As usual I invite anyone to point out anything in my comments that have been aggressive. There is a difference between aggressive and just clarifying, even when the chosen words are loathed by others.
Still respect you bro!
To me they are both worthless for I do have that which is far more valuable and by which I can easily find the things which men believe they ( billion and bible) were meant to provide.
I'd most likely give both away so that fools will continue fooling themselves by them.
Well this has been a fun thread to while a way a bit of time while waiting for answers about broken links and other stressful things.
My first thought is to sell (assuming the person buying had the intention of doing away with the bible and that I had not already done this) but then I think about all the other religious texts out there and wonder what a world would look like where the main religious texts are the Koran and Talmud (any others I am missing?). That is not exactly a good picture in my mind, a world with those texts as the main religious texts. So I think I would hold onto the bible until such time as all religious texts are destroyed, then take the money!
I truly believe that these organized religions bare just as much guilt for the sins of greed and pride that an organization like ENRON has. Organization for a belief system or business system over time develops a power structure and we all know what power does to people. Religious figures are people with power and are doomed to become corrupted by that power.
Religion is the greatest threat to spirituality IMO. I believe in God and would love to hang with Jesus but I see it time and again, religion doing more harm then good. I see people who had some bad experience of religion and blame the religion (not the people who create it in the first place, as well as those who perpetrate it) and even god for that bad experience. I see people so swept up in their religion they hurt others with their prideful ways and righteous words. I have even seen those worried that their good and well lived lives might not be enough because they didn't go to this or that building on such and such a day and didn't practice this or that ritual of worship and all the good things they did wont save them from hell.
Religion is fine for spiritual children, those who have no self discipline, control or sense of personal responsibility with out it. I have grown up and grown beyond what religion can give. I do not need a middle man or interpreter to run between God and myself. I can both listen and hear God in my life (which is why I do still believe) and know that no book written by men in ages past can compare to the daily feeling of divinity in my life.
Did I ramble on long enough there or shall I continue?
I wouldn't trade it, but only because I don't need the money. I'm a collector in my heart and it would be more valuable to me to have the last one of anything no matter what it was then to have more of what I already have more than enough of.
The Bible is a compilation of several other books and writings - those books and writing live on in spite of what the Bible has "done for them" - I'll take the billion dollars. The Bible is a farce as it is. A mistranslation of other creative, historical and fictional accounts.
SHOW ME THE MONEY, HONEY.
hold on to it for dear life.... and hopefully appreciate it a bit more than i do now.
I very much doubt you have even read it.
I see you are fond of quoting a few bits that attack non believers though. And you wonder why?.........
Kristians Kausing Konflict........
i did not intentionally attack non believers, just quoted ones i like, i leave the attacking to you and your side kick
Yes - I understand that you are just quoting from the bible. Therefore it is not an attack - because God said it and you are absolved of all responsibility for your attack.
Hiding behind a god to do your attacking. How very brave you are. Pity you do not understand why this Kauses Konflict.
I bet Jesus would be proud of you. You did not say anything - god did - and then you get to accuse me of making an attack when I respond. Well done. Very Kristian of you.
Hmm Passive/aggressive. Bet this has never been an issue in your personal life.
I think and hope that's what I'd do too, and of course share its message with anyone who'd listen.
And Rafini and anyone else who's said the Bible is priceless.
crash bang wallop i have bumped into Mr Mark Know All again,
I'd sell it, we were supposed to know it in our hearts anyway, and besides, with a billion dollars I could get all the leading bible scholars together and have enough cash to reproduce it as it was, and print millions more to replace what had been lost!
But in reality, the only reason that one would hold the last copy would be because God had taken all the believers out of here and was about ready to burn the place to a cinder, so if you are ever left holding the last copy, wonder why you are still here!
I would not sell it. The words of wisdom contained in the Bible are priceless.
Mark Knowles, of course I take huge issue with some things you've thrown at me and other Believers.
But looks like they've deflected your attacks pretty good! ha
Catch ya later maybe.
Yes indeed, worthless to you.
Actually, the Bible is for the Believer to interpret, not unBelievers.
Yet they keep trying, keep pulling at straws....
Yeah - sorry - I forgot it is only for a few people - not for all. God is pretty divisive isn't He? He just doesn't like certain types of His creation. LOLOLOLOLO
Do you think fire cleanses the soul?
The bible shouldn't be open to individual perspectives or interpretation. If it was truly the "god's will" and it's words, you can better believe there would be no mistakes in the interpretation from ONE person to ANOTHER person.
Everyone would have the SAME opinion about what it means. Yet, this isn't the case. Therefore, self-evidence it's a fraud to begin with.
It's the sole purpose for why so many people have their vision skewed.
Just a thought.
I think Mark Knowles must be one of Jesus' favorites. He challenges the believers in ways sometimes similar to how Jesus challenged the Pharisees.
He sure shakes things up. If anyone is prone to feel secure in their present environment and beliefs, you won't feel so much that way when Mark gets done with you.
And quite frankly, it should happen to everyone. Adapt and learn, or die from half truths.
Maybe with some people it works that way.
But I for one am very secure in my beliefs, as are many Christians.
And at any rate, it's obvious that it works both ways....meaning that Mark obviously has an inner desire to be challenged himself. He's looking for answers, but cannot see that the Answer is right in front of him, within his reach....
That challenge is what got Jesus executed. No other reason. Jesus knew that religion's "god" concept was false.
Shit yeah, and then I'd spend your righteous money on drugs and hookers.
I'd take the money. A billion dollars would keep me, my family, my friends, and many other deserving individuals living comfortably for a very long time.
A printed Bible is just a book. It is ink, paper, leather. If the Word did not become flesh, and His law is not written on my heart, then the printed word is pretty worthless spiritually.
From a spiritual perspective, making the last printed bible more than that would amount to idolatry. (Many Christians are guilty of making an idol of the Bible anyway ... I gotta believe if there were only one, it would be worse.)
That having been said, as a piece of cultural history, the last printed copy of the Bible, (or for that matter the Koran, the book of Mormon or any other holy book that attracts or has attracted millions of followers) would be worth far more than a measly billion. I'd hold out for more money.
I'd sell it for what I could get for it.
But first I'd tear out the preface and index page...roll a couple joints with 'em and sit with the buyer for a half hour or so, tokin' and celebrating his purchase...
I am all heart! :-)
Do I need the money?
Do I lead a comfy life or am I without anything at all that may make survival difficult.
Having nothing makes one more susceptible to such a deal.
What if I know the Bible by heart. I can still tell those who would listen about it.
It's a tough one...putting the Bible issue aside it is the last copy of a book that will be destroyed...
It's all about motive really. your motives for selling it or keeping it...that's what I think.
My Bible was a gift from my granddad...I wouldn't part with it.
A million dollars is a lot of money...I'd be tempted!
No, because it is the Lord that gives you the power to gain wealth; Whether you are a Christion or not it's totally up to you. But know this " The wealth of the wicked is laid up for the just"
Ditto to coletta. I too will not sell it. Prosperity comes from meditating God's word. Many said that you need to work hard indeed the bible talks about working hard and diligently with your hands but it also emphasises on meditating the word day and night...then we shall prosper.
Why should I throw away something so precious to "dogs" and "pigs" that will throw or burn it away
NOTE : "dogs" and "pigs" are the words refered biblically not something to be put as offensive
I cannot live nor survive with my bible but I can live and survive without a billion dollar.
Sell it! Any offers over 50 quid! But why would anyone want to spend a billionaire dollars on it and then destroy it?
No question about it - sell the beast. Where can I get my money?
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