anyone is welcom to share you ideas of God. Any type, any possition, any idea. It's all good to me.
My boyfriend is an atheist and I pretty much believe everything, but in a weird way I'd say we are coming from the same place. It's like the glass half-empty or half-full thing. Recognizing that it is not possible to prove the existence of God and that it all comes down to belief, he chooses not to believe in God. I think that since God's existence can't be proved but people seem to often feel better believing in God, why not just believe in everything? So I pretty much stay open to all possibilities, however wacky or exotic, although certainly some appeal to me more than others for aesthetic reasons.
But as I've said to him many times, we're not that different in our thinking, just in our responses.
This tends to get him going, so I only say it when I want to mess with him.
Sometimes it feels like the closer you try to be with god, and live up to example, the further I feel from people in general. I believe in being open and expressing what or how I feel. One of the first things I notice about having what is considered to be outdated high moral standards, is how few people I feel on the same level with.
A lot of people talk the talk, but don't walk the talk. It feels like we exist in a world where it is rapidly becoming acceptable to get yours before someone else does.
Basically you are seen as stupid for not being aggressive enough to dump on other people to serve your own purposes.
Is it normal to feel this isolated from the general population, or am I going to have to open a whole new bag of issues with my therepist? hahaha
Sadly I am going to say yes. I think some people want to say, Oh praise Jesus and let him fill your heart with peace and joy etc. But the ones who seem to get the closest to God often ( I think ) become islolated because we do actually live in a different world.
The populations always want to fit in where they can and from my experience, I don't fit in anywhere, so I only get closer to God.
It seems pretty misserable, maybe that's why most never get it, I don't know, because being isolated or different makes us feel less special, but you should feel most special to God. So hold on to what you have. If you feel isolated, your not alone. I have been rejected by just about every community, every religion, every organization etc. So I went on my own and believe in what I believe as perfect and very much so, tell God all the time, "You better keep your promise!"
Don't get me wrong, I want to fit in somewhere but I just don't.
Before I go into any of this I would like to know if you believe in Jesus Christ? Also do you believe that the Bible is the inspired Word of God? God is not a religion, He is very much alive.
In the Bible it says that in the beginning was God and all things were created by God. There is nothing made that was not made by Him. Second, Jesus Christ became God in the flesh so that He could walk among people. He had a plan to be fulfilled. It was to become the only human sacrifice that could take away the sins of those that become believers in Him so that when they die they will not go to hell. Another thing is satan was with God in the heavens and he had occupied a special place until he became prideful. Satan became prideful and wanted to be over God so God kicked him out of heaven. Satan thought he would defeat God so he planned to kill Jesus when he was born by using King Herod. God protected Jesus. When Jesus was arrested satan thought this plan would work so he would have Jesus crucified. He thought he would just kill Jesus and get him out of his way. Little did he know that it was God's will for this to happen because God knew that after 3 days Jesus would rise from the dead therefore defeating what satan had planned. Jesus Christ conquered death, hell, and the grave. Now, the ones that believe in Jesus and ask for forgiveness of their sins, believe that Jesus was crucified and after 3 days rose from the dead believing in their heart and confessing with their mouth unto salvation, will be saved. Therefore, God loved you that much that if you were the only one he would have still given His only son as a sacrifice to give you the chance to be saved. Here are the scripture references to what I have shared with you.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
John 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory,glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son so that whoever believes in Him ill not perish but have eternal life.
Matthew 1:13 Now when they had departed behold an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream, saying, arise and take the Child and His mother, and flee to Egypt, and remain there until I tell you; for Herod is going to search for the child to destroy Him. ( this was the thought satan placed in Herod's mind to kill Jesus)
Ezekiel 28:15-17 You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created, until unrighteousness was found in you. By the abundance of your trade you were internally filled with violence, and you sinned. Therefore I cast you as profane from the mountain of God. And I destroyed you o covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom by reason of your splendor. I cast you to the ground; I put you before kings, that they may see you. ( by creation satan was perfect; but pride was hi downfall.)
Matthew 27:24 And when Pilate (the governor) saw that he was accomplishing nothing, but rather that a riot was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the multitude, saying, I am innocent of this Man's blood: see to that yourselves.
So Jesus was taken away and made to carry His cross. He was beaten and spat upon and a crown of thorns was placed upon His head. When they hung Him on the cross He said, Father forgive them , for they know not what they do. After He died He was removed and taken to a tomb. After 3 days He arose from the dead and He remains at the right hand of the Father awaiting the time to come back and take the believers ( saved ones) with Him to heaven.
Romans 10:9-13 If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved; for with the heart man believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. For the scripture says
whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed. For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for of all, abounding in riches for all who call upon Him; for whoever cal upon the name of the Lord will be saved.
God is a merciful God and He loves everyone so much. There will not one person given the chance to accept Jesus as their personal Savior. God said that their will be a day that every eye will see Him and every knee will bow and every tongue will confess He is Lord.
I really didn't plan on getting into a sermon but, sometimes it needs to be put out there for others to read. That way, if they read it they can't say they were never told when the end time comes. I also hope this touches someones heart and will make a difference in their life. Not for me, but for themselves and as glory to God. I ask God to show you in some way He is real and very much alive. Whatever prayers you might have you can send me your request and I will be more than glad to pray for you. I was in a womens prayer meeting for 8 years and I have seen many prayers answered. With God all thing are possible.
In Christ Love, You may email me if you please;
There are so many things I should be doing, but not! God and Creation are dumping a foot of snow on us here today. We have been having 30-40 degree weather, but woke up today to this!
My truck doesn't get around well in snow, so I stayed in today intending to do a bunch of other stuff I don't usually get to. I want to go sledding...wouldn't that be fun!?
So, God, you ask...where should I begin. God is Father, Mother, Son, and Holy Spirit. Get yourself a pencil and paper and write this down as I describe it. Draw a circle, divide it into equal quadrants and put Father in the upper right, Son in the lower right, Mother in the lower left and Holy Spirit in the upper left.
Now make it a figure eight by putting another of the same on the bottom of the first one. In the bottom circle, keep the quadrants, but lower case the first letter of each member of the family. (except put daughter in the upper left quadrant).
This is the whole picture of God as the Holy Family. The bottom circle and quadrants is our human self and the upper circle is our God Self (One with God).
Each human being is all of these aspects of God...the lower circle quadrants are intended to "rise up" in consciousness within self and become One with God Self.
Are you filling in the picture?
I was drawing it out, and I love it. Something popped into my head about the universe. If you don't mind, can you tell me more.
Did you go sledding? So nature decided to take a holy crap in your state, LOL. Go have some fun. xo
Na, I put together a wooden file cabinet instead...I would have had to drive somewhere and didn't want to get stuck!
OK, more of God stuff.
So we have this figure eight flow of energy between human and God/Source. It is somehow representative of the multi-dimensional aspects of being/consciousness. The figure eight is the two dimensional representation of the spiral of the universe of self, through the dimensions, that expands as it ascends toward the goal of our ascension out of this plane of existence, eventually never having to reincarnate again, because we passed all our tests and graduated from earth's schoolroom.
Each year of the spiral, we come back around to the same karmic situations to work on. But each year is also different because we pass some tests and not others within a particular karmic circumstance...like always working on the same problem, just another facet of it.
Where the two circles meet, at the nexus, is the Holy Spirit and the Christ Mind. The Christ mediates between God and human levels of consciousness, and the Holy Spirit connects up God/Source Energy through the Christ to help humanity heal and rise up; raised to a faster vibration that would make us more light.
And so as each individual soul lives different lives as different people (a father, a mother, a son, a daughter and all the possibilities there of, of the sexes) the soul learns more about each aspect of the whole family. Gradually raising consciousness of each aspect towards its Divine state of consciousness. As above, so below.
Eventually a soul can become so balanced and raised up in these 4 levels of human consciousness that the levels are more divine than human (becoming as Jesus, a Christed being, a being of great Light).
If it were as simple as I am making it sound, we would all be there! But as you consider these points, think about all the finite aspects that we are; the psychology and development, the physical health, the spiritual beliefs and levels of consciousness, the emotional conditions negative and positive, and the mental powers and their misuses and ignorances.
It really can be simple though, a simple belief in God, a simple acceptance of the Christ within our self, as exampled by Jesus as a path to follow, being loving and kind with right mindfulness as the Buddha in all aspects of life.
But we all know how simple that is not..the not self of the individual wants to continue to rule the day.
That is a matter for another day. I am tired. It is 1 am.
But we all know how simple that is not..the not self of the individual wants to continue to rule the day. --sparlking jewel---
I know right, turning off the not-self, always has it moments, when the not becomes the I, it's sorta a mind tripp. LOL.
When I drew out the figure eight, Einstiens, fabric of space, popped into my head. I spend a lot of time pondering space, and see the spiral flow, as well as the paralles of space, and the intersection. As though every intersection is a deep spiral into a new demention of space.
Sometimes I wonder...If space is not time conceptualized, that everything out there is so much closer than we believe it is. I think sometimes, if I ever got the opportunity to go into space, I would want to do just one thing, see if I can breathe out there, somewhere.
I have this rediculas idea, that people can breath something other than air (o2) out there somewhere. But since I can't go, I guess I can't prove it either. I guess I always figured or was taught at school that, in order to make fire, you needed oxogyn to fuel it. So I suppose I wonder, how these great explosions can even occure without it? Just my redicuals thoughts I guess.
Ok, hope to hear from you soon.
So you changed the subject...do you want to understand more of any of the things that I have said? This is not my intellectual material...it did come from somewhere in this plane of knowledge, there is more to it. You can read it for yourself and make your own conclusions, not just my interpretations.
ok, sorry, didn't realize that what I said offened you for any reason. I thought I was making coversation. You know, that even these types of things can hurt a persons feeling.
No, I was just hoping to start and continue a conversation, ask questions and not jump around too much. That's all.
Do you mean I hurt your feelings? I am sorry if I did, expecting more conversation on a subject I thought we were connecting on. Sometimes I am not very intuitive.
So how do you know when you have reached the 4th stage or when your soul has lived all the possibilities?
There are no stages, actually, if you look at it from all dimensions. Each circle spins at an increasingly accelerated rate...so that all quadrants integrate. The only reason it is put in this picture form is to conceive of each component.
The Holy Spirit is always present within us. We just have to realize it more, believe in it more, by clearing the psychology that covers it up. For instance, my human father had no outward expression of a spiritual life, like in rituals of religion. And he also had very little emotional expression or self control.
So in that, as my father, he was intended to represent the Father aspect of God to me, he left me wondering who is God the Father. Until I figured that it had to be up to me to find God the Father aspect, my psychology was actually stuck...I had become angry at a deep soul level that God had abandoned me, and when I began to search, my psychology began to clear through forgiveness and mercy having to do with my father and his human lack of conception of God.
So one looks at all perceptions/beliefs we have taken in of the "members" of the family. Because those "not God" patterns became a part of us (covering up the God of us) we are to understand the human and accept the God aspect of each member (forgive them and love them regardless of their inability to know God within them selves). We are to forgive them for having shown us untruth of God...and seek Truth for our self.
and the most beautiful aspect of this is that they can be healed (completely or partially, depending on what they need to learn) of their untruth, on some level, because we understood, gradually come to understand, their sense of incompleteness in God, and are building our own sense of incompleteness in God. That is how we help each other.
Please tell me more, I do want to hear what you have for me. If I ask questions and stuff it's because I am really interested.
I was hurt, but we're good right?
Yes, we are good I was in a state of feeling the need to connect more. Sometimes sharing what I feel deeply about is the only way I know to try to accomplish that. Yes, I want questions, that is not affronting to me at all. Our mutual interest can do nothing but help us both to expand our comprehension and understanding of things. I suppose I was being controlling in my desire... I have been alone for too long, I guess. Actually, now the need has passed, but I will still answer any question you may have about the information I have shared so far.
You don't have to feel alone or disconnected. Jesus Christ has been my Lord, my God, my helper, my healer, my savior since I was a teenager. My life is fuller each and every day that I live. I am never alone. I have many wonderful friends. Some know Jesus and some do not. The Lord never meant for us to go through this life alone. There is such a difference between religion and a relationship with the living Christ. It is not about do's and don'ts, it is about life. Everlasting Life!!!! You can not be good enough to deserve it. You can not do enough to earn it. It is a gift. Free and simple. Man in his sin and Satan with his lies twist the truth. My God is alive and well and miracles are happening each and everyday that show me this is true. I don't only believe in the Lord, he is my friend and I KNOW HIM. I never have to defend Him. Or prove that He exists. He can hold His own in this world just fine. It is not a fairy tale. Or a bedtime story. And if you open your heart, and truely search you will know this is true. God Bless You
Wow Jewel, this is definitely something to ponder about... Thanks
It truly is soooo beautiful and so orderly and organized. There is a plan of how it all works, but how it all works out to get back to that original plan is unique to each soul...the best we can hope for is to help each other find the way for themselves...which in turn helps us
Seems like Jewel, has figured it out. I like the way she put the whole concept in context, in so few words.
But she alwas does make sense, in that concise manner. especially the part about getting back to the original plan. Sign me up.
Guess i'll be a fan. Thanks for leading me here San.
Who is god?
He, she and it is god. God is, has, was, will.
Where is god?
Everywhere is god, nowhere is god.
What sort of a thing is god?
Everything is god.
God is love, god is the light.
When does god come?
When the madness stops, when death becomes.
How do I see god?
With your eyes closed and with your eyes open.
What have I to do with god?
You are his creation, you are a part of him.
When do I see, meet god?
Whenever you really decide to,
when you want nothing.
from my book Ponder Awhile
I am in control of parts of my body.
Something else or some other I controls the rest,
like my breath, heartbeat, veins so much.
Am I really in control? I say NO.
So what is controlling everything besides me?
The same force or entity or power controls.
I have never been in control.
At the same time I must have been in control.
We have taken over the planet, bullied other animals.
In fact we have even caged them,
what gives us this right?
Are we abusing our power or does the
game of the survival of the fittest Carry on?
I say we are abusing our power.
This ridiculous precision of revolution, rotation of the earth,
moon and planets for thousands and thousands of years.
Something if not someone has assembled all this.
Based on this accuracy we invented the clock.
What has the capacity to play with or organize such gigantic spheres?
Our solar system is just a small part in this cosmos.
God knows for how many generations this is all going on.
We are connected together as the human species.
Deeper than that blood relationship and friendship.
Deeper the light, love, super intelligent, super entity
What we term as God.
From Ponder Awhile
I would like to pose a question.
If the whole world spoke one language before Babel,than all went there way saying this is my god,what would they say if we all spoke the same language again and thought the same way since the confusion was gone.
I would hope My God/Father/Creator was an all loving God,and would try and teach us all sides of the story so we have better understanding of him.
I believe that God, whatever it is, the Father of Creation, will love us no matter what. I think life is given freely to us. I believe that people who run around in unrational fear of Satan are just stewing in thier own demons of imagination.
I believe that the whole universe and everything in and out of it, is God's creation and like wise, I believe that there isn't any part of it that will cease to exist, including us.
I believe in all the stuff in the Bible, I believe free will but ultimatly our destination leads every single one of us to same thing.
And I think that believing that God only loves a certain many of people, is a product of "Satan", a tool I supose, to make us submissive, or lead us nowhere and I think God is smart enough to know this.
I believe that everything is equally important to God, but we do have one up on everything else, and that one up, is called love and our attachment to our soul, but no matter how death takes you, we all are going to be ok.
I believe when people say that God only loves a certain amount or type of people, that it is thier way of feeling special, and I am ok with that, I mean a little upset that people still hold this attitude, when Jesus Christ himself offered love for all and a promise of life to all, and I believe him.
So the only thing that hurts in life is the way people treat each other. Some still not ready to accept that the Father of Creation, loves us no matter what.
I gave up on trying to get Gods love because I know its a given. I think if you don't love God back that it is just as well and that God doesn't hold it againts you.
My god waits for the day that the confusion will stop,so the world will knowledge that we and our Atom/Adam/ic structure will light the way,they called the dna project once on my tv,the book of life,and I hope we understand it before we part the heavens like a scroll.
How is dna a part of part of god is a good question.We have everything inside us like God has everything inside Him.What an interesting theory.So maybe Earth is a giant particle that we live on and we are like part of His arm or leg/hand/foot/eye/hair,lol.
I don't know about any of the others that have posted here, but my DNA is the same as God's. The God of Abraham! WOW!
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