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Is God a single parent?

  1. chinweike profile image40
    chinweikeposted 7 years ago

    I was shocked when my neighbour's little son of 9 walked into my apartment and asked me this question; IS GOD A SINGLE PARENT?
    I didn't bother answering the uestion as i don't know what to tell him.
    So, can any hubber please help?
    Cheers everyone!!

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

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      1. chinweike profile image40
        chinweikeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks for your response.

        He (my neighbour's son and not my son) is confused over who is the wife of God since he has a son (Jesus). Though this is the believe of christians.

        Thanks once again for your response.

      2. Beelzedad profile image59
        Beelzedadposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Nope, he had a one time fling with a married woman, knocked her up and then high-tailed it out of Dodge. smile

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          crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          lol that is one thing that has always amused me... immaculate conception my a$$, Mary just got around town and Joseph never figured it out tongue

          1. NightEmpress profile image60
            NightEmpressposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            LOL!

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          Kathryn LJposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Teehee! Is the holy ghost the same as God? And what about the angel of the annunciation?  Its a very complex story isn't it?  More to the point, didn't the term Virgin mean a single independent woman in those times and therefore the new testiment was not claiming an immaculate conception at all, rather that Mary was single?  Most importantly chinweike, this child is very smart and should be praised for asking such a thought provoking question.

          1. chinweike profile image40
            chinweikeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Kathryn LJ, I equally marvelled at the level of intelligence that the boy exhibits.
            Thanks for the response

        3. earnestshub profile image88
          earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          lol sounds a hell of a lot more likely than the biblical version! lol

      3. Jerami profile image74
        Jeramiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Yes God is a single parent!  ..
           But as Hillary Clinton once said ... 
           It takes a vilage to raise the children.

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        atlas_khanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        chinweike!!!
        The Following comments may help you to satisfy the child asking about GOD.

        "In the Qur'an, we read that Allah (GOD) is Compassionate and Merciful. He is Kind, Loving, and Wise. He is the Creator, the Sustainer, the Healer. He is the One who Guides, the One who Protects, the One who Forgives. "

        1. earnestshub profile image88
          earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You forgot "The one who is a myth."  smile

      5. goldenpath profile image74
        goldenpathposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        No, He is not!  We are in the image of God, male and female.

    2. Rafini profile image87
      Rafiniposted 7 years ago

      I like it, and would say, Yes.  God is a single parent.  Although only women can give birth, it doesn't matter which gender you are when it comes to being capable of raising a child alone.

      1. chinweike profile image40
        chinweikeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Hi rafini,

        Thanks for your response. I think you are implying that God HAD a wife. Please let me know if I am misunderstanding you
        cheers!

        1. michifus profile image86
          michifusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          It depends on your beliefs. So I will leave Allah to those who are better qualified to answer such as paarsurrey (great post!).

          As far as I understand it.......God, The Holy Spirit and Jesus are one and the same - grouped together as the holy trinity. God is all three. All three are God. God is the holy trinity. Jesus is not 1/3 of God in the same way that a third of infinity is infinity.

          Jesus is God on earth in human form. The use of the term "his son" is a useful way for us humans to better comprehend God. With God being, well, incomprehensible to us mere mortals.
           
          So before I ramble on too long, God is not a single parent, because Jesus is God. He didn't have a wife, because God is not a man. He didn't have a husband either because he is not a woman. He is God. Unless of course you are a Viking, Roman or ancient Greek in which case he was a man, and Jesus was not around so they didn't have to bother with tricky questions like the one your son asked  ;-)

          1. Obscure Divine profile image57
            Obscure Divineposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Oh my, how do you know these things?  Just curious...

            1. michifus profile image86
              michifusposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Just my take on it  - I do not claim to be right.

          2. Friendlyword profile image58
            Friendlywordposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I really dont understand the Trinity.
            Why did Jesus teach us how to pray to OUR FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN instead to how to pray to him?

            Why did Jesus pray for the Father to save him from crucifiction?

            Why did Jesus say "FORGIVE THEM FATHER, BECAUSE THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO" when he was nailed to the cross?

            Are you saying God is one of those people who goes around talking to himself

        2. Rafini profile image87
          Rafiniposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          No, I'm not.  It is well known that the Bible says Mary was impregnated by God.  Nowhere does it say Mary was married to God or that God was married to anyone.

          I like the idea of claiming God was a single parent, that's all.


          OMG - didn't realize I had, once again, wandered into the religious forums.  I thought this was under education or family or something like that.

          I don't care if God was/was not married.  God is God.

          1. Beelzedad profile image59
            Beelzedadposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Mary was an adulterer and god was non other than Glenn 'giggity' Quagmire. smile

            1. Jerami profile image74
              Jeramiposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              And the beat goes on....  and the beat goes on
              drumbs keep pounding rithems to the bone....

    3. Obscure Divine profile image57
      Obscure Divineposted 7 years ago

      Who could claim ownership of all the atomic structures within the totality via cosmos, and call their divine self a single "parent?" Ha-ha!  This query is ludicrous to no end, infinity if ya will, and due to the humor, it should have been filed under the "entertainment" category.  big_smile

      1. chinweike profile image40
        chinweikeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        It probably wouldn't have the level of response is getting now if it were to be in the 'entertainment' category. And the little boys enquiry wouldn't have got an answer.

    4. kess profile image60
      kessposted 7 years ago

      Since God is perfect He is one and is all things.
      This means His wife is already in Him and is one with Him.

      On earth imperfect Men join to their wives to reproduce, but the perfect God reproduces when His wife is seperated from Him.

      This is the original meaning of the term "mother earth", though many who do cannot, will not, have not  understood the process has confused it immensely.

      For this entire age is because of the Separation of the female from the Male and will conclude when they are rejoined.

    5. lovemychris profile image79
      lovemychrisposted 7 years ago

      That is actually a very profound question! My first impulse was to laugh, but then...
      still thinking....

      1. chinweike profile image40
        chinweikeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Just like it got me thinking........
        Cheers!

    6. Richieb799 profile image59
      Richieb799posted 7 years ago

      yes and he does it all with out benefits!

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        kimberlyslyricsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol  lol

        hi babe big_smile

      2. chinweike profile image40
        chinweikeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        And what are the benefits?

    7. Daniel Carter profile image89
      Daniel Carterposted 7 years ago

      According to the Bible, God is plural, especially when you talk about the creation of man:

      Genesis 1:26:
      26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

      The ONLY way this passage makes sense is if God becomes plural. The passage also strongly suggests that these beings (Gods) actually have a body instead of just exist in spirit. That kind of blows the idea that it's simply a reference to the Trinity.

      Since most Christians believe in "cafeteria" Christianity (believe what you want and throw the rest out), you can take from this what you want. The original text implies plurality of Gods, from what I understand.

      Therefore, God does not have to be a single parent, IF you are up to such speculation.

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        atlas_khanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        From Quran !!

        Say: He is Allah, the Monoreal!
        Allah (the Monoreal) is Eternal.
        The Monoreal does not take or give birth.
        And there is none comparable to the Monoreal.

        This may help you people to understand GOD.

        1. earnestshub profile image88
          earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          No it doesn't, but it does tell me you don't know anything about Egyptology! smile

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            atlas_khanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            You r right...I donot know more about Egyptology!...but i know the GOD..who is just only ONE in all respects.
            Also it seems you know nothing about GOD.....so sad.

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              Deborah Sextonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Hmmm Having male and female attributes is not being two Gods.

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                atlas_khanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Just believe that GOD is GOD who hold whole the universe not only creation of human beings. Eample: if we make a car, can car explore us...never. in the same way...GOD created us..so we cannot explore GOD. we have limited thinking memory but GOD is unlimited. so how we can accomodate unlimited in a limited one.

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                  Deborah Sextonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Many religions believe that the Holy Spirit is God, right?
                  The Holy Spirit is the Shekinah (Shekhinah) which is the Elohim.
                  The Shekinah in the Hebrew tongue, is the feminine aspect of God.

                  Any name defining the male aspect of God ends with.EL... Any female aspect ends in nah.

                  And..we are to explore God. Many times it states we are to look up and see God.
                  How would we worship what we don't at least try to know.

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                  Deborah Sextonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Gee, you have no hubs..why don't you write about it.

                  1. earnestshub profile image88
                    earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Hi Deborah. Nice to see you lack of bias despite our differing beliefs. Very commendable. smile

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                      Deborah Sextonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                      Well, I happen to like you. smile

                      I don't feel sorry for you as someone has implied (she was not speaking of me, but everyone who took up for you on another thread)

            2. earnestshub profile image88
              earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              You are mistaken. You may like to look at a hubber more carefully before you say things like that. I have made an intensive study of religions. smile

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                atlas_khanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                it seems You always do the study with mind closed at all.smile

                1. earnestshub profile image88
                  earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Wrong again! I was a devout believer when I started. smile

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                    atlas_khanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    When your memory become full...you went against GOD...this is the limitation of our memory:)

                    1. earnestshub profile image88
                      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                      What are you saying? My memory and recall are first class! smile
                      I have never heard of memory becoming "full" lol

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                      Deborah Sextonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                      This is just a friendly reminder:
                      What is it that it says in the N.T.?

                         1. John 8:7
                      "….So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. "

                      James 2:10
                      For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

                      And:

                      Matthew 5:21-22:
                      21. "Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

                      22. But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment:.."

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                    poetlorraineposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    if you were a devout believer, why have you changed and become so bitter.......  i think you would have been a nicer person before., you annoy everyone on here especially me.  Your comments go round and round and make little sense..... please take a break

                    1. earnestshub profile image88
                      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                      Do you mean I disagree with you so I should shut up and go away?
                      As for annoying everyone, I would have thought others can speak for themselves, and have no idea how you could conclude that about "everyone."
                      If you want a discussion I would have felt that would require you being open to discussion. smile

                      Believe you or be annoying to everyone? I don't think so.

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                  Deborah Sextonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  He is speaking of his past. You may see him as having a closed mind and yet you don't know him.
                  Since you believe in God, why not let God judge him and we'll just all work on ourselves.

                  I am not trying to be rude, but it's not our job to judge another's hows, whys, who's or whens...

                  You just told me we can't know God, but you told Earnest you know God...

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                    atlas_khanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    I told we cannot explore more about GOD because of many limitations about our attributes. How much far away you can see....definitly there is a limit to see..some time you may not be able to see as you can do now....
                    Lot of limitations are attached with Us. However if you are in accepting mod...you see little and accept it.

    8. easyspeak profile image70
      easyspeakposted 7 years ago

      Augustine, talking about salvation, called God our Father and the church our mother.

      But on the other hand, God is neither and both genders.  John 3 also says we must be born of the Spirit...

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        atlas_khanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Augustine! may said God as Father and the church as mother to give them more respect.
        However, how church,a prayer place, can be a mother.

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      poetlorraineposted 7 years ago

      hard to explain to a child, but god being a spirit is neither male or female, he created everything, and is a parent to us all.........  god bless.  I know lots wont agree, and i don't want to argue, but that would be reply to the child.

      1. chinweike profile image40
        chinweikeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks for this kind reply of yours. I have noted it and would try to pass the message across to the little boy.
        Cheers!

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      Deborah Sextonposted 7 years ago

      God has both male and female attributes.
      Anytime scripture mentions the Elohim, it is in reference to both these attributes. (Elohim refers to God as the creating male and female force)

      The problem is that the English translates everything to God instead of the aspect of God it was really speaking of.

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        poetlorraineposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        he must have, musn't he, you are right, as we were all made in his image.

      2. chinweike profile image40
        chinweikeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Deborah, it seems you understand Hebrew very well? Do you mind if I enrole in your class? Or better still have you tutor me?
        Cheers!

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          Deborah Sextonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I speak Hebrew as a third language. My husband is Hebrew born in Israel.

          I have no classes to enroll in.
          I am a nurse, wife, mother, housekeeper, animal abuse rescue aide and much more. I have no time to tutor. Sorry

          1. chinweike profile image40
            chinweikeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Haha! No need to be sorry. Life is full of opportunities.
            Thanks anyways

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      poetlorraineposted 7 years ago

      i am open to discussion, occasionally i am a busy lady, off to work soon,  we could have a vote on how many people you annoy...... i could start a thread, something like if Earnesthub annoys you say I......

      I absolutely do not expect anyone to agree with me, it is up to them, but no matter what day we look on the religious forum, there you are bad mouthing religion.  If you do not like religion, why even go on the forum..... makes sense to me, change your picture from timeto time too, i find the same one all the time a little boring, maybe i will get banned off forums for a few days i can manage that, could you manage not being on forums for a few days, annoying peoople i think not.

      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        So same old. You don't want to see the same avatar now? Geez that would apply to most here who do not change pictures of themselves.
        Any thing else you would like? Should I just agree with you to make you happy? I have a feeling that nothing would please you.

        As for being here on these forums I would remind you that these forums are titled "Religion and beliefs," not "poetlorraine's religious beliefs forums!" smile

        You will find just as many who are religious who do not share your views! lol
        By all means do your "Who hates Ernest" thread. It has been done before. Backfired somethin dreadful! smile

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          poetlorraineposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          i remember that thread, lots of people stuck up for you, they felt sorry for you.  go on change your picture.

          1. earnestshub profile image88
            earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            The picture stays. smile If you read that thread you would see it was not about feeling sorry for me. It was about hubbers having perspective. I was supported 100%.

            I suppose you think my 700 plus fans all just feel sorry for me? I write most of my hubs to assist other hubbers, and yes they do make money too, but not my primary motivation.

            I get plenty of hub love, and despite your slant on things I don't think you will find many hubbers who agree with you apart from the sock puppets of course! lol

            If you had read the comments that I have on my hubs you would not hold that opinion.
            Some of us don't have a stack of photos of ourselves alone, most of my pics have family in them.

            I am an honest person and do not wish to display an avatar that is not me.
            If you don't like the way I look what can I say? That's me, I live with the fact that I am no oil painting! lol

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              poetlorraineposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              come to my party earnesthub.   the avatar is not me, i am dull and boring.

              1. earnestshub profile image88
                earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                No Lorraine I am over the abuse, I would not feel welcome. smile

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      poetlorraineposted 7 years ago

      o.k. please accept this bottle of wine from me.  cant do pictures, but if you do not want to drink with me, drink alone.  ha ha aha

      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I am having a nice Shiraz at the moment.
        I drink very little. smile

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          poetlorraineposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          what is a sharaz... here is a popcorn, just one, it will not choke you

          1. earnestshub profile image88
            earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            A very fruity dry red. smile Lovely! smile

    13. Tom Cornett profile image56
      Tom Cornettposted 7 years ago

      God is dad....Earth is mom....Universe is trailer park.  smile

      1. chinweike profile image40
        chinweikeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        How? Can you please explain?

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      poetlorraineposted 7 years ago

      I knew it i have dry wine.  My wine has to be soooooooo sweet.  what time is it there. it is 1.24 p.m. here

      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Just 10.25 pm here in wonderful downtown Melbourne. The most liveable city on planet earth! smile

    15. andromida profile image77
      andromidaposted 7 years ago

      Actually, I never asked HIM such type of questions big_smile

      1. chinweike profile image40
        chinweikeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Why? Have you seen HIM before?

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years ago

      Is God a single parent?

      Hi friends

      The Creator - God Allah YHWH has no gender; so he has no wife, no son or daughter; only those things need off-shoots which are mortal; God Allah YHWH is Immortal; so cannot have any wife sons or daughters.

      Thanks

      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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        Deborah Sextonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        God created us in his image, male and female. God has both male and female attributes. God is limitless and when you say God has no Gender, you limit him (In your own mind). God is all in all.

        Just so you know, there is no religion that I am aware of that thinks God had a wife and got her pregnant and therefore brought about all creation.

        However, since God is all things, he is our father and mother, our sister and our brother.

        The God I believe in is limitless and not limited to your idea of God.

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          paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Hi friend Deborah Sexton

          And of course not to your idea of God also.

          Thanks

          I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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            Deborah Sextonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            I don't put limits on God

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              paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Hi friends

              I also don't.

              Thanks

        2. Obscure Divine profile image57
          Obscure Divineposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Are you telling me that there is a divine penis floating amid the cosmos???

          1. Greek One profile image78
            Greek Oneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            someone call me?

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            Deborah Sextonposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            How disgusting and vulgar.

            1. Obscure Divine profile image57
              Obscure Divineposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Not really... 
              I'm now awaiting someone to explain to me where the divine black hole is, amid the cosmos... 
              Don't look at me, folks, Deborah brought up the divine gender thingy-ma-jiggy!

              1. Greek One profile image78
                Greek Oneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I've already explained that to you smile

                1. Obscure Divine profile image57
                  Obscure Divineposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  No, you only speak of girth!  lol

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                crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Wherever God divided by 0, duh

                1. Obscure Divine profile image57
                  Obscure Divineposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I was trying to be amusing and there you go, getting all scientific and crap!  big_smile

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                    crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Does "where God tripped" sound better to you? lol

                    1. Obscure Divine profile image57
                      Obscure Divineposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                      Is that divine endowment?  Hey, I'm trying to be modest here...  lol

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          woolman60posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          If God had a name, what would it be
          And would you call it to his face
          If you were faced with him in all his glory
          What would you ask if you had just one question

          And yeah yeah God is great yeah yeah God is good
          yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

          What if God was one of us
          Just a slob like one of us
          Just a stranger on the bus
          Trying to make his way home

          If God had a face what would it look like
          And would you want to see
          If seeing meant that you would have to believe
          In things like heaven and in jesus and the saints and all the prophets

          And yeah yeah god is great yeah yeah god is good
          yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

          What if God was one of us
          Just a slob like one of us
          Just a stranger on the bus
          Trying to make his way home
          He's trying to make his way home
          Back up to heaven all alone
          Nobody calling on the phone
          Except for the pope maybe in rome

          And yeah yeah God is great yeah yeah God is good
          yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

          What if god was one of us
          Just a slob like one of us
          Just a stranger on the bus
          Trying to make his way home
          Just trying to make his way home
          Like a holy rolling stone
          Back up to heaven all alone
          Just trying to make his way home
          Nobody calling on the phone
          Except for the pope maybe in rome

          1. chinweike profile image40
            chinweikeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            good one!

          2. Obscure Divine profile image57
            Obscure Divineposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            You just posted lyrics to someone's song.  I can't think of who sung that song, but it was several years ago when it was released.  What was her name?

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              crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Alanis Morissette?  This song has been covered so many times it's hard to know who sung it first.

              1. Obscure Divine profile image57
                Obscure Divineposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I never heard her version.  Hmm, oh well...  But, either way, "woolman60" didn't sing it originally...  LOL!

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                  crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  haha, no

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                  woolman60posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  No I did not, Joan Osborne recorded this song, an let me tell you awesome, check it out on youtube.

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      kimberlyslyricsposted 7 years ago

      not a nice mother taking off like that.  geez.

    18. earnestshub profile image88
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago

      Some thoughts are just better understood when they are made into songs don't you think? smile

      1. chinweike profile image40
        chinweikeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Yeah, The spirit behind songs will make them clearer for people to understand.

    19. ediggity profile image59
      ediggityposted 7 years ago
      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Seen that so many times. It is still priceless! lol lol lol

        1. chinweike profile image40
          chinweikeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Really?

    20. abeja_reina_1989 profile image55
      abeja_reina_1989posted 7 years ago

      That's such a cute thing for a young boy to say!! I don't believe in God, because to me it just seems like a story that for whatever reason people decided to take seriously. But anyway, kids are adorable. I wouldn't have known what to say to him either. It's one of those topics that I would have left alone and been like "ask your parents" lol.

      1. chinweike profile image40
        chinweikeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Ok! I have noted your point.
        Thanks for your response.

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years ago

      Is God a single parent?


      The Creator-God Allah YHWH is not literally or physically our father or mohter; He is more than them; or real Provider and Sustainer.

      Thanks

      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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      earnestshubposted 7 years ago

      http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t174/CodeoftheWes/y5089.gif

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        paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Paul's invented religion is outdated and obsolete; it has no relevance to the present world; in the West or the East. It has nothing to do with Jesus. Christians! must research and find true teaching of Jesus as mentioned in Quran; and they must follow him, no compulsion.

        Thanks

        I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

     
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