What makes you think you deserve immortality? Yer just an animal

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   qwarkposted 12 years ago

   What is is in the human mind and psyche that makes it think it is of greater import than any other ephemeral life form on this planet. Arrogance? Why?

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      qwarkposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      seems I pose another question too difficult to ponder and offer cridible reponses to. Don't people think about these things?
      Why not?

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         Mark Knowlesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I didn't answer because I do not think I either deserve or can expect immortality. In fact - the idea is laughable. Maybe - whatever unquantifiable thing that makes me me will return from whence it came - but I find it extremely unlikely that I will be aware of it.
         
         I am an animal. Everything I have seen ever tells me that animals die - as does everything else.
         
         I suppose people believe they are immortal because they are scared of the unknown. Plus there is this big religion telling them that if they do wot god sez - they get to live forever. And they swallow it.
         
         Well - I will qualify that - they go around telling other people to do wot god sez.

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            BDazzlerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            OK ... but then I get your share of the eternal Single Barrel if you're wrong.

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               Mark Knowlesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Why would I go for that? Eternity with no single barrel? Sounds like hell.

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                  BDazzlerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Well ... yeah ... that's my point.

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            qwarkposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Yer a bright man Knowles...thumbs up!

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            klarawieckposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I think it's because there will be no point to life if we simply die. It's like passing kindergarten and then... that's it...
            
            I truly believe in reincarnation, it's like a school, you go from one grade to the next until you graduate... (you become one with Spirit) That's my opinion anyways.

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         Lisa HWposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         This question isn't difficult to answer.  It's kind of a no-brainer, if you ask me.  Most people don't expect  to, or think they deserve, eternal life on this particular planet.  Many would like to live longer.  Maybe some would like to forever - but, in general, that probably isn't most of them.  What makes anyone who does want to live forever?  Maybe they just love being aliving.  Maybe they'd like to keep having a chance to make their own or others' lives better.  Either way, it isn't arrogance because most don't think they "deserve" it.   I suppose, even if someone did he think he "deserved" it out of, maybe, contributing to the world and thinking he was an asset in this world; maybe it wouldn't so much be thinking he "deserves" it as thinking "why shouldn't he deserve it".
         
         As far as all those people who believe they're headed for eternal life after they this Earth goes, again, why not?  If it's good enough for their God, why would that make them seem as if they think they deserve better than God?  They'd still be little human souls, floating around somewhere, and doing their own thing - completely unrelated and unequal, I'm assuming to any God.
         
         So, I don't know....    there you have it, I think.   

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            qwarkposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Lisa: ty....you must read with understanding. I didn't mention the possibility of life after death here on this planet. I used the holistic definition of "immortality."
            Now pls, just for the sake of chat, what is this god thing you speak of?
            There is no scripture in any monotheistic writing that defines "it" in terms other than opinion.
            When you can satisfy this question for me, I'll take your response seriously and we'll "seriously" chat about it.  TY

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      Twenty One Daysposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      What makes you believe you have the authority to ask such a question? Answer that, then we might consider your query.

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   Bill Manningposted 12 years ago

   Actually I agree with you. I never can understand how people think they are so special that a higher being would do anything more than they would with a fly.
   
   Humans are mammals, animals that happen to have larger brains than most other animals. Other than that they are the same as any other animal.
   
   They eat, mate, fight and die. They smell, do strange things, do gross stuff and are quite funny looking.
   
   Humans at this stage in their lives seem to have just enough intelligence to be different than other animals, but not enough to know how to use it.
   
   Instead the level of intelligence humans now have is just enough to make them very dangerous, plus fearful of what they can see they don't know.
   
   They just don't know how to handle the level of understanding they have right now. Hopefully if they live a few hundred years more they will advance enough to be really intelligent and put it to good use.
   
   But I'm not counting on it.

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      qwarkposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Bill:
      Yer the man! Couldn't agree with ya more ..ty for being thinking and responding like a learned scholar! 3 cheers!

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   Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years ago

   I deserve immortality because Mommy says I'm special.

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      qwarkposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      great answer! Y gotta love Mommy! lol

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   wildernessposted 12 years ago

   Consider that we don't see, smell or hear as well as many other animals.  We can't run as fast, or carry as much.  We're easy to catch and easy to kill.  Except for a few extra brain cells we can't compete hardly anywhere.  Why should we be immortal?

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      qwarkposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      wilderness:...nothing is "immortal."

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   kessposted 12 years ago

   so you think there absolutely nothing behind your rants and raves over this issue and similar one?
   
   Well then maybe your place is to join thr cows and goats and war over grass and water.. or whar so ever matters to them.
   
   I really cannot see why so much babble over something that absolutely no importance in the scheme of this Life.

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      qwarkposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Kess...lol and I see no reason for you to "babble" about something you seem to have no inkling as to the meaning of.
      That response is probably one of the most inanely garbled response i've ever read. wow!

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   TruthDebaterposted 12 years ago

   If something is reincarnated after death, doesn't this change the meaning of death? Or is something still considered dead because those that knew of it while alive doesn't know it's been reincarnated? Could it be dead to some and alive to itself or others? If you were unaware of something, wouldn't it be dead to you?

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