Now, I know there are many hubbers that are atheists here, but this forum is only for the people that believe there is a god and a devil. However, if you choose to participate in it anyway, then please go off the hypothetical conclusion that god and satan might be real to answer this question. Don't say something like well it's probably someone that's insane, as that's not what i'm going to ask.
In honor of M. Night Shamalans latest piece of crap...I..I..I mean movie... Sorry, both seem so similar I sometimes get them confused when it comes to Shamalan these days. Anyways, if you haven't heard about his latest film coming out this week, i'll fill you in. The premise is simple. Four random strangers get stuck in an elevator for a few hours, and guess what? One of them is....THE DEVIL! Not only that, but the devil is trying to kill off each passenger one by one, and any one of them could be him. Now, the question I want to ask you is what if it were you.
What would you do if you were locked inside an elevator with three other people, and one of them wasn't who they claimed to be. What if one of them was the Devil trying to kill you and everyone else there, but you don't know which one it is. What would you do? Anyways, I hope you all have fun debating this one.
I think that we all are stuck with the devil, in varying degrees, all our life. Fear is like dancing with the devil, they say, and who is free of fear?
For me, the devil is our dark side, the side we have to keep at bay if we want to live the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth. It is our negative side, the one that is all to fast in judging, that enjoys criticism (of others, naturally), that derives pleasure from getting even with another, from making him feel stupid, small, inferior or not enough.
It is the temptation to make ourselves feel better by talking bad about someone else, the shallow feeling of triumph when we have successfully made someone cringe. It is our fearful side, which is too easily convinced that others are the enemy, that it is better to condemn than to forgive, that there is a real right and a real wrong (and wrong are all the others, sure).
When we are in harmony with ourselves, we are living the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth, but when we get out of touch with our loving nature, we fall prey to the dark side, called the Devil.
So, yes, most of us are trapped with him most of the time...
I agree with you. One should use one's will power against the evil of the devil and seek help from the Creator-God Allah YHWH to get rid of the devil. This is called Istighfar- getting a cover of one's bad emotions by seeking help from the Creator-God Allah YHWH.
No problem, I always carry of a vile of Queimada. Devil be gone!
You don't get to decide who responds to your posts.
you obviously taken what i said out of context because if you had read on, I also said this:
" However, if you choose to participate in it anyway, then please go off the hypothetical conclusion that god and satan might be real to answer this question."
Like my father told me once (and believe me I don't often agree with him but this I do)..."if your going to quote me, then quote me right. Don't just take part of what i said out of context and pass it off to make me look bad" therefore, if your going to quote me, then all i ask is that you POST THE ENTIRE THING AND NOT JUST PART OF IT. thanks....
really? how did you come at that conclusion?
I live in the inner city for a few years.
Trust me, the parking inspectors are the devil himself!
well i'll be sure to remember that then if i ever run into them. thanks for the heads up!
I have been in this situation for real !! I was married with someone who appeared to be normal if a little uptight, enough this and that, a good enough cook, sometimes adequate in bed - you know, normal. Behind the face she was a vicious manipulative bitch who was creating various lies and stories about me to our friends and family, until they were all only her friends and some family even !
Trapped with the devil? get an excorcism, it is called divorce these days.
your plan is flawed
the other three people were aetheists and the Devil got out on the 2nd floor carry a look of abject dissapointment.
However he wandered into the Republican Party HQ in Texas and found lots of fundamentalist christians and boy did he have a party.
'carrying' a look of abject dissapointment!
My fingers are faster than my brain
I think I prefer the representation of the devil in the Russian book 'the master and Margaretta'. With him its just, try not to be too much of a dick, he has no patience for unpleasant people. Even when people got in his way and he sent them away, away was home. Seriously thats a great book, the devil in atheist Moscow stirring up trouble as a magician with his friends, one of whom is a talking cat. I would hang for a short while with that guy so long as 'Anasuka has not already spilled the oil' (gotta read the book to know what that bit is about)
What a shame. I always think that the presises of his movies sound great...and then then last couple have been a disappointment. He was doing so well and now...dunno what's happened to him.
Anyway, the thing is...the devil is a fallen angel, what could you do against him. You can't kill the devil (or can you?). I guess just wait for death, or at least hope that when it comes it would be swift. You could start praying, but since God doesn't answer so many people's prayers, that one might not work. You could pretend to be super-evil, to get on the devil's good side, he/she might think you are like him, a convert and spare you so that you could spread his evil ways further.
I'd start by declaring who I am in Christ, then pray that the other two guys would be open to a bit of instant ministry!
this is a bit of a nightmare .... Being stuck in a lift with anyone is scary..... but the devil.
i will have to think about this quite seriously. We are stuck with the devil around us all the time, but in a lift. I would hope to get out of the lift alive, of course, any suggestions for me. This is a teaser.....
I'll take out my crucifix (if I happen to carry one with me, which is as rare as pigs flying lately) and the person that laughs the hardest is probably the devil. Hopefully, it works.
that makes me feel better. O.k. I would use my powers, to zoom myself out of the lift. You know like wonder woman does.
LOL, trapped with THE DEVIL? Honey, I was married to him for eight years.
Who performed the wedding? How did you get rid of him?
Why we performed the wedding as all couples do, however a friend who was a Justice of the Peace officiated.
He finally had the good sense to die and go straight back to Hell where he came from. Of course he left me a rather sizeable fortune... my reward for selling my soul.
"resist and he will flee from you" says the WORD... WORD, from the greek, is LOGOS - or, logic... funny ..."in the beginning was the LOGOS, and the LOGOS was with god, and the LOGOS, was god. " now, provided there is a God, and I believe so - he is evidently, surmised of the aforementioned LOGOS quote, john1:1, then he evidently built into our conscience his Law, saith paul (ROMANS) and that most definitely is a logical establishment of measurable consequence. funny how the devil urges people to behave illogically, and atheists are screaming so often about how "the bible is not logical." well, what they are really screaming is, "i have never really read the bible," or, "i have read it, but I don't read well do to my presuppositions," or, they clearly don't have a penchant for quantum physics - a science that appears to LOGICALLY bridge many gaps between "science" and spirituality. moreover, being trapped with the devil is a strange concept, as strange as LOGIC for that matter - since not all unbelievers act on their conscience's sentiments - while they purport that faith is illogical. In such vast universe as the one we "exist" "in", and as difficult as it is to be logical - it appears that the greater strides in being so consistent as to be deemed a logical person is to consider that if you are trapped with the devil, then the LOGICAL thing to do is to simply resist him - as per the biblical mandate - so as to cause him to flee. if there is a greater cause and effect than the silent treatment, then we all ought be so free - however, pertaining to being trapped in his snare, we all tend to enjoy the fruits of evil for a season, as it is forbidden, and pertaining to the old adage - that is often sweet...but too much sugar rots the teeth - and too little LOGIC rots the soul... LOGIC, how it saved mine...
or why not - perhaps the do, DO to their presuppositions...LOL
Please explain how quantum physics bridges the gaps between science and spirituality if you have a penchant? I would like to see your math, too.
omg, that's terrible. you poor girl. I'm sorry to hear your ex- put you through so much like that. thankfully, you don't have to put up with that anymore.
You so beat me to the punch. You rock.
I was gonna comment about being married to his sister for a bit....
What would I do if I were locked inside an elevator with three other people, and one of them wasn't who they claimed to be. What if one of them was the Devil trying to kill me and everyone else there, but I don't know which one it is. What would I do?
Well I'd just have to kill off the other three people first before one of them got the chance to kill me. Of course, by doing that, I'd be doing the Devil's work for him. LOL, wouldn't be the first time the Devil made me do it.
me? HURT? or Steve? did i miss that, or did i really come off as being hurt (smile)... but i was just being on topic....yikes... CLARITYYYYYEEEEEE. OOOPS.
yeah, i'd agree. personally if it came down to mere survival and i had to choose between me or the life of the other people i was trapped with, then im sorry they're going to die. unless those people are people that i care about or they're just children, then im sorry...i'd kill them before they could kill me.
Actually, by the OP rules, you would be the devil!
Use this to find out.
Forces of darkness,
forces of light,
pull back the curtain
to reveal the blight.
Set for destruction, mindless yet cruel,
We break your commands,
We shatter your rules.
We know one of them is the Devil because it's a given in the question.
But even if one of them wasn't the Devil, if any one of them were trying to kill me, I'd have to get that one first, devil or not. Hell, I didn't survive foster care, sexual abuse, cancer, and 5 husbands just to give it up in a freaking elevator to some psycho who might or might not be the Devil.
LOL if his name is Mark, I'd give up my wee jug and find away out. somehow, maybe roast weenies or something, like the other person.
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww! Tell me I misunderstood what you just said. You didn't just say you'd roast the other person, did you?
hey that's cool. i'd do the same thing. except i'd make damn sure his genitals were still in tact when they found me. this way nobody can say i was gay or something. have you ever noticed like carlos mencia pointed to once that whenever you see a bunch of cannibals eating people they ALWAYS eat the man's genitalia even if they're straight? seriously, i'd starve to death if i had to dine on another man's ****.
The concept of being trapped in an elevator with the Devil is actually occurring right now. Because of Adam and Eve cast the first original sin in God's newly created Paradise, this makes us all sinners. We have as individuals the potential to be bad or good. Our physical frame here on earth is our own sanctuary where our soul or spirit lives. So what we put into our own personal sanctuary is going to determine what lives in us. Is it the Devil (God created Lucifer, and he became a fallen angel when he chose to reject God's authority), or is it the Image of God's Son Christ Jesus who Is Good and Holy. Being trapped in a confinement such as an elevator is like pushing our inward selves into a place where you have to choose. Sin in us makes us there in that confined place. There is no way out of the Devil's Snare except through accepting Jesus Christ as our Savior and Lord. And once you do accept Christ's salvation you can speak directly to the Devil and his Demons to tell them to Flee in JESUS Name!
OMG, this whole thread is about a stupid movie where a bunch of people are stuck in an elevator with something that is supposed to be the Devil that is trying to kill them. Nobody in their right mind could take this seriously, and I'd be calling for the guys in the white coats with a straight jacket to come pickup anybody that did, because they would have to be completely nuts to believe in any of this. I can't imagine the devil having nothing better to do than to waste his time stuck in an elevator trying to pick off a bunch of random strangers. I'm sure he'd rather send some demons to do it for him. Now that would be believeable... LOL!
haha I would nevah! I'd let the Devil eat them. Then get him drunk?
does it really matter? in the movie the elevator is stuck, and isn't moving at all. why do you ask?
I see darkness ahead of me,
darkness behind me.
No light anywhere,
No light ever where
OK, I'm thinking the devil, my dearly departed husband, must be lurking around here somewhere. Watching... waiting... to see what we are all going to do next.
I know what we can do in the elevator that will surely get rid of the devil, we can sit in a circle and sing Kumbaya. Then we can offer up the guys in the elevator so he'll take them and not come after the rest of us. Oh wow, I'm having way too much fun with this.
Well when you speak of him... There are so many ghosts and skelletons in our closets so if you start to play a tune, the whole bunch will burst out in a long awaited carnival, dancing until they drop dead in dawn :-)
By the way your late husband called me hes allright and you should just go for it, live while you still can. It is hunky dory, "things are okay";
LOL, if he did call you I wouldn't be at all surprised. That man was so evil, there has to be a personal Hell invented just for him. But, he did leave me very well provided for, so I danced all the way to the bank and I haven't stopped dancing yet.
As I told You, dance!
And your voice should be heard as a tune in a choir or like a lovers song that echoes out in the world. Because you have god inside of you and may you forbid you to forget!
I stand before you tonight to represent the people who do not count: The poor, the poets, and monks. As long as there are people who are trying to realize the divine in themselves, there shall be hope in the world.
Thomas Merton (1915 - 1968)
We all have the devil in our lives one way or the other. Some have the devil as family members the others are just surrounded. All we can do is beat them at their game. Blessed be.
He'd probably easy to pick out, I would think he would be the most likeable one, the most appealing one, as he will be manipulative and appear to be on your side.
That's the one I would avoid.
Then pray like crazy for forgiveness for all my sins in case he does kill me, or till God helps me out of the elevator.
I would turn to the Devil, look him straight in the eye, and say "Mr. Knowles, where is my @#%@^@^ four dollars !?!?"
When your trapped with the Devil...you Must dance with him...try to Lead...cause following can get real tricky.
I guess I would hope the lift started moving before he got to me..because with his powers am not sure there is much else i could do.
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