FALLEN ANGELS PLAYING WITH TODAY'S "SCIENTIFIC" WORLD VIEW...

1. 59

   BRANDONHEATHTARTposted 12 years ago

   This is not an attempt to persuade, rather, it is a sincere question awaiting a sincere reply.  Thank you and be of peace
   
   Last night I managed to hint at the notion that today's "aliens" are yesterday's angels.  interestingly, the same sort of activity appears to be happening between the Genesis record regarding Gen. 3:15, what was happening in the time of Noah when angels were having intercourse with humans, and today when abductees claim to have had what they recall as being scientific studies performed on them after being "taken".  I.e. - the studies involved a focus on their reproductive organs.
   
   Now, while both require faith to a large degree, Christ did say regarding the day of his return - "...as in the days of Noah, so shall the day of the coming of the Son of Man be..."
   
   While all today's commentary on the topic is episodic, their is a consistent line of thought pertaining to the idea of initially trying to breed the probability of a Christ out of humanity, which failed according to the biblical record - and Christ with even prostitutes and gentiles in his bloodline - represents a figure who arrived due to that alone which God participates in:  FAITH, NOT HUMAN PERFECTION PERTAINING TO STRICT FOLLOWING OF THE LAW - SEE ABRAHAM AS FATHER...
   
   to end this and start the forum, why then, supposing there is any truth in this does anyone herein suppose there is ongoing genetic mingling with today's aliens and humans - assuming yesterday's angels are indubitably, todays aliens?  if there is anyone left to be born of the flesh, who then? 
   
   and does it not help that we humans have been duped into holding fast to unproven theories like evolution, which assists these fallen angels/aliens, as it turns our head from their being spiritual and extra dimensional in origin, and instead, just highly "evolved" humanoid creatures from a much younger place in the universe - ergo, more evolved and capable of vast inner-stellar travel?

   replyreport
   1. 66

      pisean282311posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      unproven theories like evolution???????...well biggest unproven theory or rather concept has been god...can anyone is the world prove god?..no..it is matter of faith right?..atleast we must thank science that it helps humans in day to day affair of life or else we would still be in jungle..so let us say big big thanks to all thinking humans who made world more comfortable place for all of us...

      replyreport
      1. 59

         BRANDONHEATHTARTposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         WELL THEN, are you not uncomfortable with the idea that an unconscious planet/universe can patter out consistencies in physical strata - for instance, in bones between different vertebrates...  does that not strike you as particularly odd?  while i am there, as a designer, one sticks with what works on the practical end of construction/creation, and with regard to the facades, aesthetics are overlaid on the skeleton that holds up  the mechanism - engineering and architecture 101.  now, where there are the elements of design - line, form, volume, shape, and consistency/patterns therein - you have evidence of a designer.  or, the accidents that happen so consistently makes them decidedly un-accidental.  this is an uncomfortable reality...god, or no god - there is, i'm afraid, a better explanation than the universe is a singular craps-shoot and snake eyes on the first throw...but wait, who threw the dice?  no, evolution is not fact-based, although - since we know of its conceptual tenets, shouldn't we lean toward the promoted ideology of what only a god would say - 'LOVE YOUR ENEMIES.'  sure, i am down with the disdain for fundamentalists regime-ists....but there is a scientific approach to belief...it, is a comfort to regard.

         replyreport
         1. 59

            BRANDONHEATHTARTposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            on evolution - we can choose to change - that is ...repentance...it's a truly bastardized term.

            replyreport
2. 67

   alternate poetposted 12 years ago

   Oh please - give it a rest.  we have enough home grown kristian babblers already.

   replyreport
   1. 59

      BRANDONHEATHTARTposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      you missed the conjecture - no, i am raising eyebrows to the consistency between otherwise diametrically opposed realities - aliens (asa topic) and angels (as a topic) and how they overlap - but i would not deem one a babbler simply because their inquiry's concepts are over my head - for instance, i don't refer to finite mathematicians as simple minded since their math deals with finite data - it does not imply that they are limited anymore than being a christian (whatever that REALLY means) indicates that one is incoherent, inept, inapt or into damning and judging - it's actually counter to the cause - sort of like being a finite mathematician who fails to organize his data sets...  when you read the BIBLE, if you do, you have to apply it to the times in an organized style of thought.  pertaining to my query, what are we really seeing in the sky????  BABEL, by the way, as in BABYLON, means confusion - and regarding the BIBLE, there is a great deal of that on both sides - atheist and theists alike.  I am actually against, babbling or, confusion...  it, too, is counter to my finite approach to reading well.  But i will rest, not after THEE answer comes to me in a dream from the HOLY SPIRIT, but after real thought and real consideration comes from people who have a real interest in something other than being cynics who never rest!  since after all, there is as they say - no rest for the wicked...

      replyreport
      1. 0

         china manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Any chance you could translate this into English so that I can bother reading it?

         replyreport
      2. 92

         Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         You are against babble?
         
         Oh, the irony.

         replyreport
         1. 59

            BRANDONHEATHTARTposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            HEH HEH HEH, YOU'RE NICER THAN THE OTHERS.  No, we all go there, but i do want to see who can answer seriously to the question.
            
            And life, since you are on the topic of irony, is teeming with it, is it not - but i do hope that end the end, i am not met with the opposite of what i expect...
            
            what about you?

            replyreport
            1. 92

               Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Oh, you definitely are giving me what I expect.  No question about that.

               replyreport
               1. 59

                  BRANDONHEATHTARTposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  WELL, i may just be trying to cause a stir - and maybe not....
                  
                  "somewhere over the rainbow..."
                  
                  'blue skies, smiling at me, nothing but blue skies..."
                  
                  "i see trees of green, clouds of white..."
                  
                  i don't expect this to be an easy forum day

                  replyreport
                  1. 58

                     Mark Knowlesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     It is not going to be an easy forum day. It rarely is for people who jump in without getting to know the community and rules first.
                     
                     Study is an interesting word to use in this case. I reject that. Imagine, discuss, yes - study?

                     replyreport
                     1. 59

                        BRANDONHEATHTARTposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        imagine that...  this was supposed to be a conjecture brought out to the table for a friendly reply...and how big is the community?
                        
                        i had a question, i wanted a serious reply and all is little more than others being never-minding to the fact that it does not make a real definitive claim, nor does it attempt to win others to a cause.... what rule could possibly be "broken."
                        
                        are rules not meant to keep safety at a desirable, high? 
                        
                        and to break some rules, you can get there, too...
                        
                        i am sorry, however...  should have put some disclaimers in the topic box

                        replyreport
                        1. 65

                           luvpassionposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           If you'd broken the rules you'd know it...some people think only their rules should apply.

                           replyreport
      3. 60

         Joe Badtoeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         well if you create baked beans from rhubarb as the crow flies you will of course release the doves from the claws of their own conscience. This in turn will paint the sky green as the wheels of misfortune turn towards a sun that melts the candle like legs of the weak who shall inherit their grandfather's clock. And as coke damages your nose if you don't pour it out of the can you can see that the cross that hangs from the holy chocolate soldier is the feet that the desert without shoes. I have shown that this is the way to the road that all ye scholars of incomprehension shall follow. Thus rembreth that from whence a bull must be empty shit will surely follow.
         
         I'm willing to gamble that what I just wrote makes more sense than 'Brandon on the Heath and his fruitcake' latest outpouring.

         replyreport
         1. 60

            Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            
            
            I've always loved that passage.

            replyreport
         2. 59

            BRANDONHEATHTARTposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            cute!  cynics are soldiers...  happy hunting... life is a bloodhound's goldmine, and a dog's good for sniffing out the fools' gold too...but if we thought of one another as enemies - we'd both fail to follow the leprechaun that you are asking to present some spendable sense...
            
            i am sorry that my sincere question lead to your pot of pyrite - but what else are you looking for, Joe Bad toe???  FOLLOWERS...LOL  NOT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            replyreport
            1. 60

               Joe Badtoeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I'm looking for the wheat amongst the chaff of life my man. I know it's out there somewhere.
               
               No man is an island
               
               unless they're living on a small circular piece of land surrounded by water and nothing but sand to sleep on.
               
               Ironics. 3.5

               replyreport
               1. 59

                  BRANDONHEATHTARTposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  yes - and to die on that Island!!!....sad and such is life....

                  replyreport
         3. 92

            Susana Sposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            That definitely made more sense (and your punctuation was better).
            
            I thought the nickname was brandon the tart - my bad

            replyreport
            1. 59

               BRANDONHEATHTARTposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               what does not is what does not to those who should probably stay out of the forum that deals with topics that people really study. 
               
               there is a lot of bad blood toward religion, but i did not create religion...in fact, i am not here to promote or proselytize....  if someone has never heard of the angle/alien debate, this would not really be the place to learn about it, rather, to discuss what one may already know pertaining to the topic.
               
               but if i had an agenda, other than to ask, i would just say - READ MY BLOG PLEASE, PLEASE - PRETTY PLEASE!!!
               
               other than the fact that i know respected people that have had very close encounters and are not seeking publicity, i have no evidence , but i trust them...so, i take their word for it.  and its not difficult to trust people that say - love one another. 
               
               this, however, is not intended to make CENT$...."FOLLOW" that?

               replyreport
3. 0

   china manposted 12 years ago

   If you are going to even mis-use long words you can at least spell some of the shorter ones correctly?
   
   and talking in old style biblical phrases and word-use is soooo old hat and annoying for the reader.

   replyreport
   1. 59

      BRANDONHEATHTARTposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      hey - sure, in plain terms - no one really ever hits atheists in the mouth where there is no money to buy their way into a steady train of thought.  they heard something that sounded good and their overall mood of nihilism generates cynicism that generates the world we live in...
      
      in other words, china man, you an blame faith, you can blame Darwin... but you can't just settle for what grants men the right to live however they choose.  to whom do we answer after all - you?  but when you make a spelling mistake (provided your spell check is failing in your reply or submission box...i will just assume that you are intellectual enough to consider that others won't really mind such trivialities unless they really are so draconian and ante-diluvian that they sever tongues - and opposable thumbs.
      
      yes, i suppose that big words require that others get a word-a-day calendar, or just start reading more books instead of blogs.  paper is also god for cleaning up the brain and its...
      
      but really, this is a SERIOUS TOPIC, and if you don't like theology - go chat with someone about communism, socialism, and nuclear arms, and pray that they all end.

      replyreport
      1. 59

         BRANDONHEATHTARTposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         sorry, forgot the C, china man...

         replyreport
         1. 0

            china manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            No - you forgot to bring reason, clear writing and any semblance of sanity.
            
            For your info - I am not Chinese - I just live here.

            replyreport
            1. 59

               BRANDONHEATHTARTposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               never implied that you were chinese......  LITERALLY, I FORGOT THE "C" IN HTE WORD "CAN" AND THE SPELL CHECK DID NOT RECOGNIZE IT BECAUSE "AN" IS A WORD 2.
               
               BUT SORRY... WHERE EVER "HERE" IS.
               
               I AM NOT THE ONE THAT CAME TO THIS TOPIC TO INSULT....HOW IS THAT FOR, "REASON"?
               
               IT IS EVIDENT THAT NON-BELIEVERS JUST WANT TO HOLD ONTO THEIR COMFORTABLE CONSTRUCTS - AND THAT, DOES NOT OFFEND ME....  GO LIVE IN THE HERE, AND NOW...AND FORGET WACO, JERRY FALL-WELL AND BENNY HINN AND MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND.
               
               YOU'RE COOL MAN!

               replyreport
               1. 59

                  BRANDONHEATHTARTposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  OOOPS   "HTE"...IT HAPPENED TO ME

                  replyreport
                  1. 60

                     Joe Badtoeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     AS THE CAPS LOCK KEY SHALL REINCARNATE ON KEYBOARDS EVERYWHERE OFFERING LOUDNESS IN A WORLD OF SILENCE
                     
                     THERE ARE NO INSULTS IT'S JUST YOU NOT GETTING YOUR DAILY DOSE OF IRONY.
                     
                     THE BIBLE IS LIBEL AS WELL AS BEING TRIBAL
                     
                     I NEED TO FIND MY PILLS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
                     
                     HOLD ON TO YOUR CONSTRUCTS I'M GOING IN......................................

                     replyreport
                     1. 59

                        BRANDONHEATHTARTposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        no wait!!!!

                        replyreport
4. 81

   2besureposted 12 years ago

   I have seen angels before and they are not aliens, they are spirit beings.

   replyreport
   1. 59

      BRANDONHEATHTARTposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      how you present yourself, is ultimately a portrayal of your agenda.  if one of these angels wanted to be an angel of light, that would not exclude the devil, who is said to pose as an angel of light.
      
      sprits, must have the capacity to materialize - if desired.  aliens would have an agenda, hence, they pose as highly evolved ET beings - but we are exploring the notion that they are ED - extra dimensional... therefore, spiritual beings - finally - fallen ones...  and ultimately - corruptors of humanity and deviously deceptive. 
      
      but it's cool that you got to see them  - i am sure they can package and repackage as this or that where need be...  my sister, in fact, was lowered to the earth when she was 4 from a very tall pile of wood.  we thought she fell by the time we all ran out of the house to help her.  on the other side of the pile we found her smiling with a far away gleam in her eyes...  she said it was our grand mother that helped her to the ground - our grandmother died a month earlier - she had no idea that she died.  so, i believe an angel disguised itself as something she would be able to identify with...  atop it all, she was too young to lie about it.

      replyreport