The Origin Of The World And Of Mankind

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   Felix El Gatoposted 14 years ago

   1. The Creation And The Fall
   The first account of the creation.
   1 In the Beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the
   earth was a formless void, there was darkness over the deep, and
   God's spirit hovered over the water. God said 'Let there be light',and there was light.God saw the light was good, and God divided light from darkness.God called light day and darkness He
   called 'night'.Evening came and morning came: the first day.
   God said let there be a vault in the waters to divide the waters in two'.And so it was.God made the vault,and it divided the waters above the vault from the waters under the vault. God called the vault 'heaven". Evening came and morning came: the second day.God said, 'Let the waters under heaven come together into a single mass, and let dry land appear", And so it was. +God
   called the dry land 'earth' and the mass of waters 'seas',and God
   saw that it was good.
   God said,'Let the earth produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants,and fruit trees bearing fruit with their seed inside in their several kinds. God saw it was good.+Evening came and morning
   came: the third day.
   God said,'Let there be lights in the vault of heaven to divide day from might,and let them indicate festivals, days and years.+Let them be lights in the vault of heaven to shine on earth.'And so it was. +God made the two great lights:the greater light to govern the day, the smaller light to govern the night and the stars. +God set them in the vault of heaven to shine on earth,+to govern the day and the night and to divide light from darkness.God saw that it was good. +Evening came and morning came:the fourth day.God said,'Let the waters teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth with in the vault of heaven',And so it was.God created great sea-serpents and every kind of living creatures,with which the waters teem, and every kind of winged creature.God saw that it was good.+God blessed them, saying 'Be fruitful,multiply,and fill the waters of the seas; and let the birds multiply upon the earth'.+Evening came and morning came:the fifth day.
   +God said 'Let the earth produce every kind of living creature: cattle,reptiles, beasts,every kind wild beast'.And so it was.+God made every kind of wild beast,every kind of cattle, and every kind of reptile.God saw that it was good.God said.'Let us make man in our own image, in the likeness of ourselves, and let them be masters of the fish of the sea, the birds of heaven, the cattle, all the wild beasts and all the reptiles that crawl upon the earth".
                 God created man in the image of himself,
                 in the image of God he created him,
                 male and female he created them.
   Genesis 1:20

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      Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I suppose this nullifies any reason for believers to entertain or accept evolution.

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         FelixE.Fimbresposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Dear Beelzedad, As someone commented we have the right to believe in what we wish I can not say one way or another but I would bet on the Holy Bible, of course we must mull over this it just may be that we are from evolution.but I my self would rather believe in God, and to live as righteously as possible
         will evolution teach me how? Does evolution have a HOLY BIBLE?
         lol
         in the Holy Bible and in the word of an Almighty God.

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            Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, you are free to chose fantasy over fact as your worldview. Why anyone would want to chose believing in a book written by men who believed thunder and lightning were angry gods is beyond me.
            
            
            
            Are you sure you want to join reality? You may just have to give up your fantasy world as a result.
            
            
            
            No problem, deny reality and continue to live in a dreamworld.
            
            
            
            Yes. Morals and ethics are a result of evolution, but are devoid in the fantasy world of religion.
            
            
            
            I can't see how your question makes any sense, what exactly are you asking here?

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               Yuki92posted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Science is a religion. A very frail one at that.

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         Druid Dudeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         He waited till they came outta the oven.

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      Kamzezuruposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      The Bible is the infallible and inerrant word of God but our interpretation of it is not. It also has to be relevant to everyone in every situation at any time. In other words to be timeless, therefore we must interpret it in our own paradigm of existence. Without illucidation the quote given from Genesis 1 is incomrehensible to generations X and Y and many other westerners besides.
      
      Nobody saw creation so this account is a terse thumbnail sketch which lays down five principles: 1. the orderliness of creation, 2. the three days of separation which teach the need for sanctification prior to filling, 3. the importance of one day of rest for every six days of labour. 4 the day of rest is to be devoted to God and others. 5. one week in all corresponds to the moon's phases so we do not loose track of where we are in the week.
      
      As a point of interest the creation of light on day 1 refers the spiritual domain of the kingdom of heaven with all the angels, and not to physical light because the luminaries were created on day 4.
      
      The perfection of the physical creation refers to its functionality. It works meticulously as it was designed to work and was never utopian. Its purpose is to provide freewill completely independant of its Creator for humans, who are the pinnacle of evolution and intended to become God's family. The driving force of evolution is survival of the fittest so nature is 'red in tooth and claw' and that is why the innocent suffer.
      
      Adam was the first person on earth to receive a spirit so that we might be able to commune with God who is a Spirit. It was that life which was breathed into him by God to give him God's image and likeness.
      
      The corruption of Adam's spirit at the fall, Gensis 3, was the origin of Satan and the serpent which beguiled Eve was her own intelligence. The tree of knowledge stands for human wisdom which leads to spiritual death. Jesus is the only one able to restore our broken spirits by His sacrifice for us on the cross. He is our guarantee of everlasting life in God's heavenly family and without Him we are lost for eternity.

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   Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago

   I love Genesis!

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      libby101aposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Me too! It is beautiful! And we can almost see God creating the heavens and the Earth! It's amazing!

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         AMBASSADOR BUTLERposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Yes and amen.

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            FelixE.Fimbresposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Yes Sir Mr. AMBASSADOR, Amen, Amen

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         FelixE.Fimbresposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Yes libby101a it is beautiful and true we can see God creating the heavens,
         and earth, and also us the human creatures. It is up to us to live by the word of God.

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      FelixE.Fimbresposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yes Brenda, Genius is the word of God, The word of God is good its all about
      God's Love for all!

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         Woman Of Courageposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Genesis is awesome! All God had to do was speak things into existence, and there it was.

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            china manposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Yep - so amazing it defies belief that anyone could possibly still believe it after all that effort of people who can think down the ages.

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            NightEmpressposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Just like Sai Baba ! lol

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   china manposted 14 years ago

   Back in the Renaissance days pretty much the whole world caught up, those who didn't finally got it with Darwin - wherre have you guys been hiding all this time ?  How can you regress to this point for goodness sake !

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   qwarkposted 14 years ago

   Moses (if he in fact actually wrote the pentateuch)created the "god thing," of the bible you read, in the first 4 words of genesis: " in the beginning, god..."
   Prior to that, this biblical "god thing" didn't exist...but, pagan gods were rife. They were all over the place!
   There were wonderful fairytale stories about them and their communion with man. I guess, as you do, that they were all replaced by this mythical "god thing" that moses alledgedly created.
   Times do change.
   lol
   Qwark

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      Druid Dudeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Seems to suggest that before the words "Once upon a time" were written that time did not exist. Not really following your train of logic which has obviously been routed to a siding.

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   qwarkposted 14 years ago

   ...and here all the time I thought "Odin" was responsible for the creation of the universe and man i.e.
   
   "Odin and his brothers then used Ymir's body to create the universe. This universe comprises of nine worlds. They placed the body over the void called Ginnungagap.
   
   They used his flesh for creating the earth and his blood for the sea. His skull, held up by four dwarves (Nordri, Sudri, Austri, and Vestri), was used to create the heaven. Then using sparks from Muspelheim, the gods created the sun, moon and stars. While Ymir's eyebrows were used to create a place where the human race could live in; a place called Midgard (Middle Earth).
   
   A great ash tree called Yggdrasill ("World Tree") supported the universe, with roots that connects the nine worlds together. One root of Yggdrasill extends to Muspelheim ("world of fire"), while another root to Niflheim (the "world of cold" or "of ice"). Niflheim was sometimes confused with Niflhel; Niflhel being known by another name – Hel, was the world of the dead. Hel was sometimes used interchangeably with Niflhel by many writers, as the world of the dead."
   
   See? That's just as plausible as that which moses alledgedly created in the pentateuch...right?
   lol
   Qwark

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      Pandoras Boxposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Odin! Hah, blasphemy! It was Chaos and matter (Earth) mating via Eros. A bit of matter, some happenstance and good old attraction. Voila! From these came all things, including the titans, gods and demigods, and the 5 ages of man.
      
      This is the one true truth and all others must be blasphemous liars.

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         Druid Dudeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Lotta real estate you don't cover. Local gods with their stupid little rules. Give me the Spirit Which Dwells In All Things. Or a good strong drink. Off to do divine battle! CYA

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   iantoPFposted 14 years ago

   I like the Yoruba story. Yoruba is an African pre-christian religion.
   The head God, Orulon, summoned one of the other Gods, Mdudwe, gave him all the magical implements he needed and told him to go and create the Earth. So Mdudwe goes ahead and makes the land and the sea and all the animals and plants. then he takes a rest. Mdudwe, while he is resting decides to make some Palm wine and drinks quite a bit of it. He still has to make man and he then sets about doing that. So the reason that we are all different and none of us is perfect is because God was drunk when he made us.
   That story makes a lot more sense than some I've heard.

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   The Origin Of The World And Of Mankind
   
   When the Creator-God Allah YHWH commanded the word "Be"; the Big Bang occured and everything started taking shape as per the Diving Desighn; and when it was appropriate as per the Divine Desighn, the life sarted evolving:
   
   At the time the Holy Quran was revealed, the human understanding of the nature of the cosmos and the movement or the stillness of the heavenly bodies was extremely primitive and obscure. This is no longer the case, as our knowledge of the universe has considerably advanced and expanded by the present age.
   
   Some of the theories relating to the creation of the universe have been verified as facts, whereas some others are still being explored. The concept of the expanding universe belongs to the former category, and has been universally accepted by the scientific community as 'fact'. This discovery was first made by Edwin Hubble in the 1920s. Yet some thirteen centuries before this, it was clearly mentioned in the Quran:
   
   And the heaven We built with Our own powers (aydin) and indeed We go on expanding it (musi'un). Quran 51:48
   
   It should be remembered that the concept of the continuous expansion of the universe is exclusive to the Quran. No other Divine scriptures even remotely hint at it. The discovery that the universe is constantly expanding is of prime significance to scientists, because it helps create a better understanding of how the universe was initially created.
   
   It clearly explains the stage by stage process of creation, in a manner which perfectly falls into step with the theory of the Big Bang. The Quran goes further and describes the entire cycle of the beginning, the end and the return again to a similar beginning. The first step of creation as related in the Quran accurately describes the event of the Big Bang in the following words:
   
   Do not the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were a closed-up mass (ratqan), then We clove them asunder (fataqna)? And We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? Quran 21:31
   
   It is significant that this verse is specifically addressed to non-believers, implying perhaps, that the unveiling of the secret mentioned in this verse would be made by the non-believers, a sign for them of the truth of the Quran.
   
   In this verse the words ratqan (closed-up mass), and fataqna (We clove them asunder), carry the basic message of the whole verse. Authentic Arabic lexicons3 give two meanings of ratqan, that have great relevance to the topic under discussion. One meaning is 'the coming together of something and the consequent infusion into a single entity' and the second meaning is 'total darkness'. Both these meanings are significantly applicable. Taken together, they offer an apt description of the singularity of a black hole.
   
   http://www.alislam.org/library/books/re … ion_5.html

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      Druid Dudeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      As I said: David Copperfield, Harry Blackwell and Chris Angel were hanging out in the ether.... Chris turns to the others and says "Watch this guys!" Then he reaches down his throat, grabs the inside or his rectum and gives a mighty pull. The universe comes out. Done and done. How do I know? Magicians never do the same trick twice to the same audience.

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         paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         There are no magicians here

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            Druid Dudeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Tell that to Harry Houdini

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               paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I don't see any Harry Houdini here

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                  Druid Dudeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  See. He is a magician!

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                     Druid Dudeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     The hard part is the return.

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