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Why Blame God? Your choices are not His Fault, but Your own.

  1. Dave Mathews profile image61
    Dave Mathewsposted 6 years ago

    When something goes wrong in your life, whether it is financial, or illness, or troubles in a relationship, or troubles at work with either a co-worker, or your boss, whatever the difficulty you might have to face, Why Blame God for it?

    If you look at "JOB" in the Bible, it is not God who brings trouble and disaster into his life, but the evil one.Satan is your tempter, your deceiver. He is a liar, a thief, and a murderer. He takes the truth and twists it. Satan will go to any lengths to test your love and loyalty to God and the stronger your love for God, the harder the evil one will try.

    Almighty God is a God of love. He cannot and would not ever do or cause anything to be done that would be dangerous or harmful. It is not His nature. God gives you His love freely, and asks that you do the same to Him.

    God gave man "Free Will" and the freedom to choose whether or not they would choose to love God and follow His teachings or not, and in MATTHEW:19:29 we discover God's reward for being loyal to Him and loving Him.

    MATTHEW:19:29;  "And every one that hath forsaken houses, or bretheren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or land,   for my name's sake shall receive an hundredfold,  and shall inherit everlasting life.

    Jesus teaches us: JOHN: 3: 15-17 "That whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have eternal life. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For got sent not His son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

    It makes absolutely no sense at all that such a loving God would test or punish, or cause hardship, when all He wishes to do is to love and be loved.

    1. qwark profile image60
      qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Dave:
      I'll bet you won't even try to answer this for me. I've questioned such as you with this question for many years and I get either silence or a trite scripture based opinion. I'm sure that's what I'll get from you.
      Q. What is this god thing you speak of?
         (There is no scripture in ANY monotheistic tome that defines
          this "god thing" in LITERAL terms. it is MENTIONED in
          terms of opinion/conjecture only)
      You and your religious ilk tout the existence of a supernatural divinity but when push-comes-to-shove, you provide zilch as a basis for that belief.
      I'm waiting for your tap-dance-around-the-barn response.
      Qwark

      1. Dave Mathews profile image61
        Dave Mathewsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        God, My God is a Triune, spiritual supernatural being. He is the one who created this our universe, created all life and substance here on earth, and created you and me. The difference is that I as a Christian invite God to live within me, to help me and to guide me, but I doubt you do. My God is the entire knowledge and wisdom of this our universe, who loves me and you and asks my love your love in return. You focus life around you and what you think is your abilities, but I focus my life around God and His abilities, and His are endless where you are limited. So wise guy what can you say.

        Here's a question for you wise guy. Why do you waste your time and energy and words trying to teardown something you claim does not exist. If there is no God like you say and think then why attack Him and those who believe in Him. Sort of Hypocritical I'd say?

        1. qwark profile image60
          qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Hi Dave:
          My goodness! I hit a sore spot, but I got a response from you that is pure emotion!
          From what you wrote, this "wise guy" has "judged" you to be a faithful "follower."
          Your response contains nothing but trite religious opinion.
          I asked you to "literally" define this "god thing." Not to "prove" it.
          You offered, as all other religious prelates have, nothing but "opinion" which is "zilch."
          I have another observation i.e. you don't read with understanding.
          I quote this from your response:
          "Why do you waste your time and energy and words trying to teardown something you claim does not exist. If there is no God like you say..."
          I have NEVER said this god thing doesn't exist! NEVER! How can I think something doesn't exist if it can't be literally defined? Once I have a definition of "it" which is logical and well reasoned, backed by empirical evidence, I will certainly consider "its" possible existence.
          Another quote from your comment:
          " ...why attack Him and those who believe in Him. " (I believe this to be a question?)
          Why would you think I would "attack" that which has no definition other than your opinion? I'm not a fool!
          I will attack the self imposed ignorance exhibited by those who believe in "imagined" super entities.
          "Wise guy?"  (Wise: Having the ability to discern or judge what is true, right, or lasting; sagacious) I can't take issue with you calling me "wiseguy"  'cause you are 100% correct and I applaud your perceptiveness. Ty!
          Oh, and I got the response I expected. smile:
          Qwark

          1. yolanda yvette profile image60
            yolanda yvetteposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Why will you attack the 'self imposed' ignorance exhibited by those who believe in "imagined" super entities?  Are you trying to convert people?  If so, you're doing a horrible job.

            And to define this 'god thing', God is not a thing.  He is the Supreme Deity.  Period.

            1. qwark profile image60
              qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Hi Yolanda:
              WOW! Another emotional response! Ty.
              I'd love to be able to replace a desire for self imposed ignorance with reasoned and logical thought, but I'm an old realist who understands the strength of the religious manacle.
              There's no way I could convert a believer in the supernatural. NO WAY!...so I certainly wouldn't try. Change must come from within. I found that out when I escaped the "bonds" of self imposed religious ignorance and stepped into the age of reason.
              What a feeling of freedom and release!
              Naw, I just offer for consideration those things that I find refer to reality.
              If one isn't receptive? so be it.
              I'd love to share truths and I try. Sometimes with success, more often with rejection. NP.
              Everyone has to do the bidding of their hearts and minds.
              Qwark smile:
              I'm off to the gym...ttyl

            2. Woman Of Courage profile image60
              Woman Of Courageposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Wow, You are right. You can't convert a believer in the supernatural. smile We are already connected to the supernatural which is the creator of the whole universe- The Omniscient, Almighty God. Does my words also come across as an emotional response? I hope your workout was great at the gym.

              1. getitrite profile image79
                getitriteposted 6 years agoin reply to this



                No you're not connected to anything but a false premise, that doesn't even make sense.  But keep believing anyway, because you have a psychological NEED to.

        2. Beelzedad profile image57
          Beelzedadposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Considering that most all other religions make the same claims, yours is no different. You haven't explained anything about your god. It's just an overall generalization with no specifics.



          If we are to prove that the emotionally charged generalization you offer is something that exists in reality, we can't, just as you can't offer anything other than your emotionally charged claim that your god does exist. It's as relevant as asking someone to prove Santa Claus does or doesn't exist. smile

          1. qwark profile image60
            qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Beelz:
            ..couldn't have said it better!  smile:
            Qwark

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          smattomposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          If there was a god, you'd certainly blame him for your grief. He created everything so he caused it. And he also knows how you're going to mess up because you're sooooo imperfect. But it's okay, he loves you. But don't mess up too much, because you'll be for the eternal oven.

          Once again, free thinkers tear this nonsense down in reasoned argument (hopefully) because it is offensive, deluded nonsense which has no shred of proof - you assert this rubbish without evidence, so I can dismiss it all in the same way.

          The same free thinkers, however, are neither normally looking to kill you for your different beliefs nor know, smugly, that they are right and that you'll either be forgiven - on conversion - or go to hell.

          They'll defend to the death your right to your beliefs but defend also their right to challenge them in argument, particularly when they may be causing great evil in the world. Religious people aren't known historically for the same tolerance and they've certainly killed millions of apostates along the way.

          It is free thinkers who have liberties - and lives - to defend from the religious, not the other way around.

          Finally, like Beelz pretty much said above, the onus is on you to prove the existence of this god, not on us to prove that it does not exist. If you've read any philosophy, you'll realise how meaningless the latter pursuit is.

      2. arb profile image77
        arbposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Qwark, good morning! I have noticed your question posed as you point out, many times. A word is defined by the implied meaning in its use. You may be unaquainted with the meaning of a word (definition) but can deduce from how it is used, what it is makeing reference too. It is obvious from your many post that you are fully aware of the reference with which people are using the word for you argue the point of the reference for the remainder of your post, thereby, you yourself define its use. Whether a thing exist or doesn't exist does not preclude it from having a name with which we can use to identify the thing that exist or doesn't exist. In asking us to define "God thing"  you, yourself acknowledge the definition of the word in assuming that we know what it is that you make reference too. If you would like comments which are free of emotion, perhaps your discourse should be directed at robots. By the way, pointing out that other responses are purely emotional does not dismiss the obvious emotion which stirs your own resonse, not that this should be unexpected, for it is difficult for any of us to seperate emotion from ideas we are passionate about.
        The question "why blame God" contains the very word which you can not define so the question begs, how do you consistently engage in a discussion which contains reference to words with no meaning". Obviously, you have applied meaning and either you are unaware of the meaning you apply or simply in denial. If it has no meaning, how can you use it and expect us to know what your talking about?

        1. Mark Knowles profile image60
          Mark Knowlesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Quark did not pose the question. A religionist did.

          Now define this god thing.

          Thanks. lol

        2. qwark profile image60
          qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Hi Arb:
          A thoughtful response. ty
          As Mark just said, I didn't pose the question.
          What made you think I did?
          All definitions of this "god thing" are offered in opinion and conjecture from whatever source they are derived.
          Pls do as mark requested: "Now define this god thing."
          Thanks.
          Qwark

        3. arb profile image77
          arbposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Sorry Qwark, I replied to the 2nd post in the thread which is from you-should have replied to your direct post. With due respect, I define "this god thing", as you and Mark refer to it, as the subject in the question you both pose. If it can not be defined(absent meaning) then the dicussion does not exist for there lacks any reference point in the question. The word is defined simply in your using the word and expecting an answer. You assume we understand each referenced word in the sentence, therefore each reference word in the sentence has meaning in relationship to the sentence. If you are asking (what) god, that is a different matter.
          Perhaps you can define this non-god thing? I might then be able to give you a more comprehensive answer. By the way, you are certainly entitled to a word being defined, but, once its use is defined, you can not arbitrarily dismiss it. They have simply offered you the meaning of its use as understood in the lanquage we are using. I suspect you are really trying to ask something else. If so, I look forward to it. btw-have enjoyed some of your thought provoking questions---this is not one of them. I am responding with the hope of moving on.

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            paarsurreyposted 6 years agoin reply to this



            Since the Creator-God is only attributive; so the best thing is to know of Him through His attributes.

            He is living and does not die; He makes others to die. These are His two attributes among many.

            I have started defining Him in a sense.

          2. qwark profile image60
            qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Hi Arb;
            That was a "respectful" response. TY.
            You said:
            " ...you are certainly entitled to a word being defined, but, once its use is defined, you can not arbitrarily dismiss it."

            Of course I can!
            If the definition is founded soley upon opinion and conjecture ( all are) and does not "literally" define this god thing, it is arbitrary and I dismiss it as nonsense.
            Once this "god thing" can be defined in literal form, I can then not refer to it as a "thing." I can then consider "it" in ref to its literal definition.
            Until that time, this "god thing" is but an imagined, abstract concept and I will refer to "it" as a thing. What else?
            Thanks for the thoughtful response.   smile:
            Qwark

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              paarsurreyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              I think instead of "thing" one could describe it as "being" or a personage or a person that would be courteous and respectful.

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                smattomposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                No.

                Thing serves very well in that it covers much more possibilities than a person.

                Can you prove that god (don't worry about proving god's existence, you can't), if it did exist, is a person? Where's the evidence?

                As to respect, respect is paid to the people in this thread by reasoned argument. I neither have to be respectful nor courteous when dealing with a concept that i don't agree with. I'm not being servile, I'm just using reasoned argument.

            2. arb profile image77
              arbposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Would still find your meaning of non god useful in answering your question.

              1. qwark profile image60
                qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Hi Arb:Just got back from the gym.
                I don't understand the question.
                "Non god?"
                How can one think "non god" if the word "god" is only defined in terms of opinion and conjecture?
                That would mean that the word "god" could be defined differently in the minds of 350 billion people who believe in "it."
                I can't seriously consider 350 billion differing concepts of this "god thing."
                I just ignore "it" until "it" can be defined in other than opinion and conjecture.
                Thanks for asking.  smile:
                Qwark

                1. arb profile image77
                  arbposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  If this "god thing" exist then so does "non god thing" one can not exist without the other unless everyone suscribes to the one single idea of a "god thing".
                  Isn't then (non god) also defined in terms of opinion and conjecture in the minds of those who suscribe to no concept of god? By now, you feel like your banging your head against the wall. I apologise. I feel the same. I suppose then that we are simply represntative of held positions that neither advance nor retreat. I have enjoyed the exchange of ideas and your civil rejection of my position. Hope you can do the same and will look forward to future post. Thanks Arb

      3. ahorseback profile image40
        ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        "God thing"  , .....doesn't have to be proved  ,does it ? Is not the origin of religion ....Faith?  Faith means believing in something without the need of "proof" , or am I all wrong?.....If you who don't believe .......dont believe !....then why do you need proof?............or do you maybe ,believe ?
        Just a litle tiny bit...........?

        1. qwark profile image60
          qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Ahorseback:
          Why is it ya'll don't read with comprehension?
          Horse, I've never asked anyone to a "prove" anything that refers to this "god thing."
          I've just asked for a "literal" definition of "it."
          Don't you understand the difference?
          I'd be embarrassed if I answered questions like some of you do who obviously don't read well and understand less.
          Arghhh!
          Qwark

        2. getitrite profile image79
          getitriteposted 6 years agoin reply to this



          If something cannot not be proven to exist, it is most likely a trick.  Most intelligent people would agree.

                      therefore...

          having faith in a nonsensical unprovable entity is willful ignorance.

          1. yolanda yvette profile image60
            yolanda yvetteposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            You cannot prove He does not exist.

            1. Beelzedad profile image57
              Beelzedadposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Just like you can't prove your god exists, or Santa Claus. smile

              1. yolanda yvette profile image60
                yolanda yvetteposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                God has already proven His existence, but I guess not to your standards.

                1. Beelzedad profile image57
                  Beelzedadposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  There's no need to fabricate claims to prop up your beliefs, especially claims that contradict what you just said in other posts. Did you already forget what you wrote? smile

                  1. yolanda yvette profile image60
                    yolanda yvetteposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    Refresh my memory.

            2. getitrite profile image79
              getitriteposted 6 years agoin reply to this



              Did you come here to debate, or just to start a mindless circular argument?  This line has been regurgitated by believers ever since your leaders prompted you about it.

              Just like the foolish phrase "a personal relationship with Jesus" is suppose to mean you are not religious.  This is sheer desperation.

              Who is telling believers this garbage?

              1. yolanda yvette profile image60
                yolanda yvetteposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Getitrite, you got it all wrong.

                1. getitrite profile image79
                  getitriteposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  I see you really did not come here to debate, but just to regurgitate religious nonsense, and to post irrelevant and absurd one-liners. 

                  And still you have not said one thing to convince anyone that your beliefs are anything other than a psychosis.

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          smattomposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Some fundamentals.

          You can't prove the existence of god. You can't prove the inexistence of god.

          You can apply reason - science, philosophy etc - towards attempting to develop more and more watertight hypotheses to explain what you observe.

          No free thinker would claim to know the unknowable but no free thinker equally will allow shoddy dogma to stand in the way of neutral evaluation. Religion would have kept us all believing in a flat earth, remember. If literally followed, we'd all be killing our kids for any insults.

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        Deborah Sextonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        _____________
        That's because no one understands what you mean by "this god thing"

        Define what you are looking for.
        Express yourself better.

        1. qwark profile image60
          qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Deborah:
          Damnit! I hate to admit my inablilty to express my question better, but I must. I can't express it more explicitly.
          I'm sorry ya can't figger it out.
          My bad!  lol
          Qwark

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            Deborah Sextonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            ________________
            You're the rudest person here, and you are the alter ego of another hubber.

            But you've never explained what you are looking for. I can't read your mind (wouldn't want to)

            Let me type slowly so you can understand.

            Do you want us to say something like God is a light, or thunder?
            What are you looking for?

            You may think that you have clearly stated what you want. but you haven't.

            If you say "10 years ago, I dated Madonna" How would you prove it?

            1. qwark profile image60
              qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Hi Deborah:
              Date Madonna? Yuk! Not my type...lol
              The only answer I can give ya Deborah is the one I gave ya.
              I can't ask the question more explicitly than I did.
              I can't do anything about your not being able to figure it out.
              Sorry.
              Rude? hmmmm?
              Your use of the word rude confused me.

              Which connotation do you have referrence to:
              "rude (rd)
              adj. rud·er, rud·est
              1. Relatively undeveloped; primitive: a rude and savage land; a rude agricultural implement.
              2.
              a. Being in a crude, rough, unfinished condition: a rude thatched hut.
              b. Exhibiting a marked lack of skill or precision in work: rude crafts.
              c. In a natural, raw state: bales of rude cotton.
              3.
              a. Lacking the graces and refinement of civilized life; uncouth.
              b. Lacking education or knowledge; unlearned.
              c. Ill-mannered; discourteous: rude behavior.
              4. Vigorous, robust, and sturdy.
              5. Abruptly and unpleasantly forceful: received a rude shock."
              Qwark   smile:

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                Deborah Sextonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                2 Both A and C

                1. qwark profile image60
                  qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Deborah:
                  lets see, hmmm,
                  Is that 2. a and b.? 3.a and b.? or both.?
                  How can I help myself if you aren't more explicit?
                  Dang!
                  Qwark   smile:

    2. Beelzedad profile image57
      Beelzedadposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I don't, for the very same reasons I don't thank a god when things go right. Pretending we are playthings and puppets to invisible super beings is simply puerile and smacks of sheer ignorance of reality. smile

    3. getitrite profile image79
      getitriteposted 6 years agoin reply to this



      If God were to come down here, and tell me exactly what you are stating, then I would believe it, otherwise, you could just be letting your imagination run wild.  So until then, there is no reason to believe a word of what you wrote.

      So could you get God to come here and tell me what you just wrote is true?  If not, then, stop making up stuff.

    4. OpinionDuck profile image59
      OpinionDuckposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Your premise is flawed because it doesn't include the millions of babies that have died before, during and shortly after birth. Also those babies that are born with defects and they are forced to live whatever life that they have with  big problems. A problem that they were not responsible for, and couldn't have done anything to deserve those handicaps, or death.

      If you believe that a God, I presume the biblical God created us, then his quality control department needs shaking up.

      This is not the same thing as investing all your money in Enron, or with Madoff and losing it all. These are a few of the things that are not within your control.

      If you can get past these questions, then I have many more.

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      Baileybearposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Job story - God allowed Satan

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      kimberlyslyricsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      big_smile

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      Jake Gene Barnesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      You should not blame the Judeo-Christian God for anything.

      No more than you should blame witchcraft for the weather or leprechauns for rainbows. It's just silly.

      1. qwark profile image60
        qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Jake:
        That was a great reply!
        2 thumbs up!
        Qwark

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          Jake Gene Barnesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          I thought you might appreciate it. wink

          1. qwark profile image60
            qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            That's a fer sure...lol
            Qwark smile:

      2. pennyofheaven profile image80
        pennyofheavenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Yep!

    8. Shahid Bukhari profile image61
      Shahid Bukhariposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Yes ... I support your view ... Dave Mathews ... but request, do allow me add ...

      "That in Life ... meaning, Existence, betwixt the points of birth, and death ...  humans have been Granted the absolute freedom to "do" as they please, by The Creator "...

      To do the Right, with difficulty, when you can easily do a Wrong ... is the Test ... it decides our Fates.

      Most of the humans, therefore, think, of this Ability, as their being some sort of gods ...

      1. qwark profile image60
        qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Shahid:
        You are quite correct when you say: "...humans have been Granted the absolute freedom to "do" as they please, by The Creator "
        You must tho, qualify your use of the word "creator."
        What is this "creator" you mention?
        Right and wrong are cultural in origin. They are relative to the society/culture within which they are created.
        In reality, outside the sphere of influence of we humans, the human concept of "right and wrong" does not exist.
        Nothing but death is "predestined," so the use of the word "fate" is fatuous.
        Qwark   smile:

  2. h.a.borcich profile image59
    h.a.borcichposted 6 years ago

    It is true. God is not to blame.

    It is nice to see Qwark and Beelze are still determined to dive into christian living forums trying to understand it smile

    1. qwark profile image60
      qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      G'mornin' borcich:
      There's nothing to understand except the depth of ignorance involved in believing such trite religious tripe!
      Qwark

    2. Beelzedad profile image57
      Beelzedadposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      While the fantasies and delusions of believers are not understood considering each believer has their own personal version, it is easily understandable why the fantasies and delusions exist.

      smile

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      smattomposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      It's curious to see that Qwark and Beelze's questions are not being tackled with any erudition.

      Might some more heavyweight theists stand up and argue a little better?

      1. qwark profile image60
        qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Smattom:
        I've been waiting about 40 yrs for that to happen...lol
        If it hasn't happened in that length of time, I don't think it's gonna.
        Qwark

      2. pennyofheaven profile image80
        pennyofheavenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Perhaps (for some) that is because God cannot be described within the accepted definition of God. Perhaps that is why symbolism, metaphor etc were used in many religions, I don't know?

        An intellectual understanding and a sense perception understanding are two very different understandings. There are also understandings that embrace both to a greater or lesser degree. Infinite variances in understanding  God then arises. Each have their own way.                           

        The words that exist fail miserably and will only serve to confuse rather than clarify any ones understanding of God.

        Kinda like

        Asking another...please define what thinking is and where thinking comes from?

        To prove thinking exists is a whole new drama in itself!

        Brings to mind that saying... I think, therefore I am.

        1. qwark profile image60
          qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Hi Penny:
          I never, NEVER, ask for this god thing to be "described" as you put it.
          I ask for a "LITERAL DEFINITION" of "it"
          If I ask for "it" to be described, I get nothing but worthless opinion and conjecture.
          "It" can't be "LITERALLY DEFINED!" Thats why I get no "erudite" responses to my question.
          "It," this "god thing," is pure "imagination!"
          That is what is so confounding! i.e. so many folks are so easily led into beliefs in imagined super entities!
          That is why I adamantly propose that ALL believers in mythical supernatural beings are the lesser evolved of the human species.
          In my mind, if the shoe fits, wear it.
          Qwark  smile:

          1. pennyofheaven profile image80
            pennyofheavenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Whats is a definition if it is not describing? Am I not getting it?

            When the bible says God created does that not say for you God is a creator? Is that not a literal definition that you were asking after?

            Or are you meaning? God is this fluffy thing floating in the universe with a wand and a witch hat kinda definition that you are after?

            Could be too because imagination is a powerful thing because it creates and does bring forth that which manifests. Imagination is what created all that exists in my opinion.

            1. qwark profile image60
              qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Hi Penny  smile:
              Oh of course there's a great deal of difference 'tween a description and a literal definition.
              Let me provide an example:

              Literal definition of man:

              Humans, known taxonomically as Homo sapiens. Man is a bi-pedal primate,  a warm blooded mammal that has a 4 chambered heart, has hair on its body and suckles it's young etc., etc..

              Description of man:

              Man is an earthly life form that varies in weight, skin color and height. It walks on 2 legs, wears clothes for protection from the environment and has hair on it's head. In some cases it is bald and wears glasses...etc..

              There is no "Literal definition" of this 'god thing."
              "It" is "described" but in the form of opinion and conjecture i.e. the "creator of all."

              Qwark  smile:

              1. pennyofheaven profile image80
                pennyofheavenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Think I am getting what you mean?

                No there is no literal definition of God in the bible. Then there is no literal definition of Man or the things God created in the bible....at least that I know of?

                Which means what? Any thing without a definition only man is able to define them?. If not defined literally by man then it is pure opinion and conjecture?

                How does man come up with definition? Science? Observation? A spoon is a spoon it has uses, you can describe its many uses but it has a definition that fits within a criteria that man has deemed fit and if anyone says it does not fit within that definition it is not a spoon but a spoondlet or something creative  like that!

                I wonder whether a dictionary existed in the days?

                1. qwark profile image60
                  qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Penny:
                  You are exactly right!
                  There is no "literal' definition of this biblical "god thing" in any monothesitic tome. None at all.
                  You are right again when you intimate that man is the only life that can define anything.
                  Opinion and conjecture can only be created by "man." There is no other life, on this planet able to offer opinion and conjecture...right?
                  Man can and has come up with a definition of just about everything. He has even come up with a definition of "metaphysical" i.e. spiritual non-physical.
                  This 'god thing" resides in the realm of the inexplicable world of the  spiritual/non-physical and ergo cannot be literally defined.
                  The "uniqueness of man" is in his evolved ability to think in abstract terms. To create, to imagine all sorts of "metaphysical" concepts. Only "he" can do that.
                  Your presumption is correct i.e. "
                  "Then there is no literal definition of Man or the things God created in the bible" and, I might add, no literal definition of this "god thing."
                  Man has the evolved ability to, just about, do anything "he" pleases.
                  He certainly has created a MONSTER in his concept of this biblical "god thing!"
                  Your response is thoughtful but erroneous.
                  Qwark   smile:

                  1. pennyofheaven profile image80
                    pennyofheavenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    And there you have it in a nutshell! Man has the ability to do anything. God in conceptual form is the creator or other words is all powerful and can do anything.

                    Therefore God can literally be described as...

                    Humans, known taxonomically as Homo sapiens. Man is a bi-pedal primate,  a warm blooded mammal that has a 4 chambered heart, has hair on its body and suckles it's young etc., etc..

                    Obviously there is more to that but I cannot define it and description is not accepted so we will leave it there.

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    wcdcposted 6 years ago

    There is no god.

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      exorterposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      If you want proof of God then quit asking people, start by prayer and fasting,
      denying the flesh is something people does not want to do unless they do know God

      1. getitrite profile image79
        getitriteposted 6 years agoin reply to this



        Prayer is a form of hypnosis, and fasting can make one hallucinate?

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          exorterposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          I can see you never tried it

          1. getitrite profile image79
            getitriteposted 6 years agoin reply to this



            This is nothing but a knee-jerk, emotional reaction, that is totally irrelevant.

            Please, could you actually challenge my findings with something of substance?

          2. Woman Of Courage profile image60
            Woman Of Courageposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            exorter, quite obvious

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              smattomposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              I've done fasting - got hungry, thought about people who don't have enough food.

              I've done prayer; at best I meditated and at worse I hallucinated.

              If there was a god, wouldn't it want me to enjoy its creation? Food - gooood, sex - goooood, fitness - gooood, fasting....well, not so enjoyable anyway. Does god want me to be fed up?

        2. Jerami profile image73
          Jeramiposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          And heaven forbid that you fall under the powers of your own subconcious mind Huh ???

          1. getitrite profile image79
            getitriteposted 6 years agoin reply to this



            No offense, but this makes no sense, Jerami.

  4. thirdmillenium profile image60
    thirdmilleniumposted 6 years ago

    God is not blamable for anything. If there is a provision for blaming him, he is no more God. You must blame yourself for anything untoward that happens to you unless you are a flawless human being. Ask yourself if you are flawless in all aspects of your life. You will get your answer easily.

    1. pennyofheaven profile image80
      pennyofheavenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      No and I no of no one that is!

    2. Beelzedad profile image57
      Beelzedadposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Just as gods are not laudable for anything. smile

      1. thirdmillenium profile image60
        thirdmilleniumposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        That's a good one

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      smattomposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      So...God created man in his own image...yet man is imperfect so......ever considered Man created god in his own image? Thought not.

  5. Rishy Rich profile image76
    Rishy Richposted 6 years ago

    I didnt chose everything in my life. No one does!

  6. Extinct Soul profile image60
    Extinct Soulposted 6 years ago

    It's plain and simple. People need someone to blame with their mishaps, it's their nature...and people are known to be the champion when it comes to denying the fact that what they did and believed in was wrong. It's much easier to blame it on, as  others here says, a non existent divinity, cause he will not refute, than to blame it on other people cause that would surely cost a lot of argument and an extra free hot mishap.

    p.s.
    I'd rather believe in God, to be someone who is eternal and guiding me with what i do..than believe on some self-proclaimed-i'm-better-than-your-god meatballs..lol peace out!

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    sandra rinckposted 6 years ago

    Seriolusly give it up already!  Why the *uck not blame god, it's better than blamming you isn't it?  There is no god, pretending there is one has never made a differnce, prettidng ther =e is one doesn't make things better, wo what is da pont?

    Pretned there is no god and see how life changes.

    1. Dave Mathews profile image61
      Dave Mathewsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Sandra your big dirty mouth scores no points with me girl. Prove that God doesnot exist insteady of just running your mouth.

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Any rational person would see the irrational nature of the statement made. No one can prove a negative.

        You speak of a god as a real thing, when in fact, your bible- specifically Jesus tells you there to look within. There is no god outside of oneself.

        So please...cut the nonsense.

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        smattomposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Wow, Dave, dave, calm down.

        'Dirty mouth'...don't like freedom of expression? How dare you refer to Sandra as 'girl', what's that about?

        'Running your mouth'... how uncouth.

        Once again, you can't prove a negative! Read and repeat!

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      paarsurreyposted 6 years agoin reply to this



      Please tell us as to what changes will ensue if we don't believe in the Creator- God Allah YHWH.

      The OP- Dave Mathews, please tell us as to what changers will take place if a non-believer in the Creator-God Allah YHWH becmes a believer.

      Let us have a comparison of both view points.

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        smattomposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        First one - simple, you learn to think for yourself. Really for yourself. No programming from your parents/family - for that is where you got your religion from (unless you're a convert) and you really start to value this life, because, on all available evidence, there's a pretty fair chance it'll be your last.

        You cease relying on some divine plan, personal or otherwise. This also helps with the responsibility thing.

        What you actually then believe in is entirely up to you, but you could start by observing basic, decent, humanist principle.

        As to conversion the other way, well, you've got all that lovely scripture and authority to get your head around. It seemingly provides all the answers and gives you a tribe. It also means allowing yourself to be dictated to by some people higher up your religion's food chain than you.

        1. pennyofheaven profile image80
          pennyofheavenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Sometimes it is more useful to detach from our own thinking including programming. What naturally arises is self responsibility, love, compassion and humility that is not contrived or thought into existence.

  8. Flightkeeper profile image73
    Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago

    I don't blame God, but sometimes I wish God would save me from myself. big_smile

  9. srwnson profile image59
    srwnsonposted 6 years ago

    Hello from the road. Blame seems a natural human condition starting as toddlers. Blame the dog,etc. God can shoulder your blame if you feel you must blame someone--go ahead. He can also offer solution, understanding and guidance.

    Bless those who wish for blessing.

  10. Daniel Carter profile image87
    Daniel Carterposted 6 years ago

    Blaming Satan is the same as blaming God. Blame of either release the person from taking responsibility for their own decisions and their life. In many cases, blame is an escape from accepting the consequences of one's own actions and decisions.

    God and Satan don't have to have anything to do with accepting responsibility for one's life. Acceptance and denial of responsibility are independent of God or Satan.

    Acceptance of responsibility for one's life is called growing up.

    1. tonymac04 profile image88
      tonymac04posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      "Acceptance of responsibility for one's life is called growing up." A loud "Amen" (sic) to that!

  11. ahorseback profile image40
    ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

    The origional question " WHY BLAME GOD " , seems to me, has nothing to do with atheists. The faults, Are all our own ! And why does he have to proove God to anyone ! If you don't believe ....oh I know !..... Then don't believe!!!....Pretty  Simple to me. Once long ago  I asked the same question of a minister! What proof do you have.  And he said to me ...."We don't need proof . Christianity is the only faith in the world without an object of devotioanal promise. Faith is the only  price you pay " . So Atheists all over the forums !  Have Faith !  Or, go about your life. The origional questioner has nothing to proove to you. But then atheists aren't happy unless you as well ,sit in there pool of crap.

    1. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Asking for a definition is not unreasonable is it?

      1. yolanda yvette profile image60
        yolanda yvetteposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        How about defining Mark Knowles?

        1. Mark Knowles profile image60
          Mark Knowlesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Human being - same as you - other wise known as a talking monkey. wink

          Cannot answer the question huh?

          1. yolanda yvette profile image60
            yolanda yvetteposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            No I cannot.  Not really.  Nor can any other human being.

            If you want a definition of God, why not go directly to the source?  Ask Him who He is.  He can answer for Himself.

            1. Mark Knowles profile image60
              Mark Knowlesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              If that were true - you would have an answer.

              1. qwark profile image60
                qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                ...quite true Mark! TY. smile:
                Qwark

              2. yolanda yvette profile image60
                yolanda yvetteposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                I've never asked Him for a definition of Himself.

                1. qwark profile image60
                  qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Hi Yolanda:
                  That'd be a great suggestion if I only knew who/what it is that I should ask the question of.
                  Can you help me with a literal definition  of "it" (him..."it" has gender?).
                  Ty.
                  Qwark   smile:

                  1. yolanda yvette profile image60
                    yolanda yvetteposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    Couldn't you simply ask, 'God, who are you?'

                2. Mark Knowles profile image60
                  Mark Knowlesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Perhaps you should. How do you expect to be able to speak to me of this thing without some frame of reference?

                  1. yolanda yvette profile image60
                    yolanda yvetteposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    Perhaps you should since you're the one seeking.  And I never said I had no frame of reference concerning God.

            2. getitrite profile image79
              getitriteposted 6 years agoin reply to this



              I tried asking God many things, and all I ever get is deafening silence.  So now what do I do?

          2. ahorseback profile image40
            ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            You already know all the "definitions"  Mark , and that just might be your problem , what is the definition of god?   . Those who believe don't need definition .  But only those who can't go beneath thier pride enough to  have faith that god ....just is!  Need defining , I think its so interesting that just because you ! cant believe.! You think no one else should   .As I watch these forums  I see the same ones constantly demanding hard fact  from those of faith.   I always come down to this though!  .If you don't believe fine..........dont.   I know a ministers son , imbittered  since young adulthood   With a venomous dislike of believers.  But when I ask him why  he can't just let those who believe be?  A blank stare......I feel the same stares here . Don't believe  ?, See if god cares !

            1. Mark Knowles profile image60
              Mark Knowlesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Well, much as I would love to agree that religion is not responsible for numerous atrocities and does not to this day perpetuate ignorance and bigotry - that is not the case. I see Christians fighting with everyone and the Muslims joining the fray. And I am on your way. This is a reasonable reason to argue against it wouldn't you say?

              A let's face it - it is not that you do not need to define it - it is that you cannot do so.

              1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
                Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                "I snot the case" ?  Your typo may actually turn out to be an appropriate response to hateful, dogmatic posts. smile

                1. Mark Knowles profile image60
                  Mark Knowlesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  LOL - Already edited it out. He said "snot. " lol

                  1. Daniel Carter profile image87
                    Daniel Carterposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    Jack Frost dripping from his nose?

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      smattomposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      "Atheists aren't happy unless you sit in their pool of crap"?

      Theists, up until very recently (and continuing on in the Middle East, Pakistan etc), have been soooo unhappy about anyone not sitting in their pool of crap that they'll burn them, stone them, hang them, impale them, put their eyes out, dismember them, knout them, torture them with all sorts of fiendish devices and leave them to rot in jail. A fair few of them are into persuading (always their younger) followers to blow themselves up, being careful to take a few more non-believers with them.

      Free thinkers argue with theists in free societies because whenever theists take control, they don't exactly tolerate or brook opposing thinkers. Now that they're not in entire control in many places, theists are forced to deal with...not murder but...cold, rational thought.

      And on the evidence of this thread, they can't deal with it.

      "I don't need any proof of god's existence, I know", you say.

      Well I say that God is really embodied in a small cosmic teapot orbiting Jupiter at present. It's quite small, so you'll never discover it, but I promise you, I KNOW it's there and I KNOW it's divine. Nonsense, huh? But can any theist not see the irony?

      Before you ridicule the last paragraph, bear in mind it came from that great philosopher/thinker Bertrand Russell.

      All religions develop from a misrepresentation of the origins of humankind (Garden of Eden, six day creation etc) and combine, paradoxically and perversely, the extremest servility (stuff like original sin) and solipsism (god communicates with me personally, I am special and part of his divine plan etc).

      They are a retardant to science and free thinking. For my part, the best message I received from religion was from Jesus in the many situations where he's pretty much reiterating "think for yourself" whether when speaking to the self-important Jew/s who asked about paying taxes or to the rich chap who wanted to follow him. I wouldn't even rule out that Jesus - if he existed - might have been an atheist and that a lot of stuff was added later! Just an idea, don't take it tooo seriously, Christians.

      He certainly didn't like hierarchies and look at the wonderful hierarchy, with all its mammon, that the Catholic church is today in all its bloated self-importance.

      No-one can ultimately deny any possible existence of a divine entity but one does like to rationalise according to available evidence, no? And if there's no evidence as to the true nature of this possibility, then no one interpretation of the idea can claim primacy.

      Surely even better though if you all allow yourselves to argue with truly open minds - no dogma allowed - and let that wonderful light called science admit what it doesn't know but at least try and produce hypotheses to further understanding.

      1. pennyofheaven profile image80
        pennyofheavenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Perhaps that is because we are too limited in our "thinking" to understand the true nature of the divine. I do agree no one can claim primacy.

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    paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

    Please tell us as to what changes will ensue if we don't believe in the Creator- God Allah YHWH.

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    paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

    Why Blame God? Your choices are not His Fault, but Your own.

    One cannot have it both ways; one wants to have free will and when out of free will he makes mistakes then one starts blaming God.

    Man can have free will and no interference in man’s affairs in this world; and when an abnormality or catastrophe or illness takes place; then one should not morally blame the Creator-God Allah YHWH.

    It is the anomalies which are a source of advancement of human knowledge.

  14. yolanda yvette profile image60
    yolanda yvetteposted 6 years ago

    @Beelzedad

    How sad it is that unbelievers lurk around the forums like hounddogs not to discuss but instead to bait others in a circular reasoning of empty claims and contradictions, and then accuse believers of doing these very things.

    It is the high price mankind pays for trading God's truths for lies.

    And I notice that you and Qwark seem to be very angry people.  Honestly, Mark Knowles can be a tough debater, but I don't sense anger in his posts (my opinion).  And there are others who can disagree, but won't come off in such a harsh way.  However, you and Qwark (especially you) come off, to me, as angry and bitter.  Why is this?

    1. Beelzedad profile image57
      Beelzedadposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Here comes the personal insults, right on time.



      Would that "God's truth" be the very same contradictions you've been offering thus far? First you claim one thing and then contradict it the next. These are truths?



      Simple really, it is something that you would say because you are unable to form a response to the subject matter, kinda like the personal insults you start this post off with..., and the fact that you offer personal insults instead only goes to show I'm not one who is angry. smile

    2. qwark profile image60
      qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Yolanda:
      Seriously, I am probably one of the most "tranquil" men you'd ever meet.
      I don't remember the last time I was angry.
      I just tell it as I see it. No capital letters (screaming), no insults.
      I ask questions of folks such as you who claim to have answers but when asked for them, offer nothing of value. Why is that?
      I get attacks on my character and judgements without basis in fact or "knowing."
      Many such as you, use words, such as "know" without knowledge of its definition.
      You "know" nothing about this "god thing" or this "jesus" fellow.
      You claim to "know" and you don't!
      You mistake my disgust for the ignorance you and your ilk exhibit, for anger.
      "Self imposed" ignorance disgusts me because it is a waste of human potential and causes death, pain and destruction! The 2000 yr history of the religious beliefs that you tout, is proof of that comment.
      Those who "follow" without understanding are "blind to the truth" and jeopardize the continuing existence of the human species.
      The "truth" is there to be realized but the "blind" cannot/will not seek it.
      "A one eyed man in the valley of the blind...is KING!"
      I am a KING!    smile:
      Qwark

  15. ahorseback profile image40
    ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

    Well, now we have cleared that all up.
     
       Origional question...Why blame God?

       Answer is! Prove it.!

  16. getitrite profile image79
    getitriteposted 6 years ago

    http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr195/OwnerGovna/personally-crazy-vs-religion-demoti.jpg

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    paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

    Why Blame God? Your choices are not His Fault, but Your own.


    Man can have free will and no interference in man’s affairs in this world; and when an abnormality or catastrophe or illness takes place; then one should not morally blame the Creator-God Allah YHWH.One who resorts to it wants to surrender one's will or choices.

    It is the anomalies which are a source of advancement of human knowledge.

    1. Druid Dude profile image59
      Druid Dudeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      As in family, and the raising of a child to adulthood, there comes a time in every parent's reality, when the little bird must leave the nest, go out into the world, test their mettle, and find out at last, that Mom and Dad were right all along, and not listening to their wisdom, only leads to the little bird....screwing everything up! Just another case of Dad having to set everything right again. AMEN!

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    paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

    The Creator-God is only attributive; so the best thing is to know of Him through His attributes.He is living and does not die; He makes others to die. These are His two attributes among many.

    I have started defining Him in a sense.

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    Toby Hansenposted 6 years ago

    Why blame God?

    Because I did not choose to be raped as an 8 year old.

    Because I did not choose to grow a brain tumour.

    Because I did not choose to have a rare medical condition that kills 90% of the 1 in 40,000 people that have it.

    Shall I go on?

    What a stupid thing to say "your choices are not His fault, but your own"!

  20. richtwf profile image59
    richtwfposted 6 years ago

    God gives us free choice to do as we please. Life is a set of circumstances which we can't always predict but we can control our responses to them by making our own choices. Make the right choices then the right actions lead to positive reactions but make the wrong choices then we suffer and have to endure the consequences. We can't blame God for what happens to us as we are the ones responsible for deciding what we want to do. Blaming God is an excuse for not taking responsibility for your own choices and actions. So if anything goes wrong we only have ourselves to blame - not God - only us.

    1. pennyofheaven profile image80
      pennyofheavenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Excellent post Rich!

  21. Jerami profile image73
    Jeramiposted 6 years ago

    qwark wrote ...    "Then there is no literal definition of Man or the things God created in the bible"
    - - - - - -

         that is true. 

    ====================================================
    qwark wrote ...    He certainly has created a MONSTER in his concept of this biblical "god thing!"
    Your response is thoughtful but erroneous
    - - - - - -

       Who are you talking about  HE  created a monster in his concept?

       "He" in your statement must refer to some man? Cause all of Mankind's concepts are man made. Are they not?
       Which has nothing to do with the thing that our concepts are about. They remain the same, regardless of whether we even have a concept of them or not.

    1. pennyofheaven profile image80
      pennyofheavenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Good point.

  22. Lisa HW profile image81
    Lisa HWposted 6 years ago

    This thread just brings one point to my mind:  Imagine a hurricane (a thing of Nature that just forms because weather/winds/oceans/temperature etc. are always doing their thing.  Some people might blame God.  Others might say, "It's just part of how things with the weather/storms go on.  So some giant hurricane rips through some part of, say, the US, not generally known for getting hurricanes (so nobody can really blame whoever lives in the areas for living in a high-hurricane zone).

    I, personally, don't think you can necessarily blame God for the hurricane forming, and I certainly don't think you can blame some devil.  I don't think you can blame the people, whose family may have lived in the otherwise safe area for generations; and whose ancestors may have moved to that area to get away from some other "evil" that was going on wherever they came from.  You can't blame people for being born into a place where their family and home is, and you can't blame that for not knowing they ought to move out because one day a big, freakish, hurricane, may rip through.

    So suppose the hurricane kills and maims a whole community's worth of people, causes all kinds of horror in all kinds of ways.  I, personally, don't think you can blame any God, but you can't blame the people either.  Whatever someone's version of "Satan" is, I don't think you blame that or any other kind of evil for such a disaster either.

    My point is that while there are certainly some things people can/should blame themselves for, there are things that people shouldn't/can't be blamed for any more than any God ought to blamed for some things.

    What I don't like about a lot of religious beliefs is that they view people as nothing but weak, black-souled, evil, creatures who are either Satan, himself, or else big friends of Satan, and who bring all bad things on in this world.  I also don't like that so many religious beliefs absolutely refuse to include compassion and a solid understanding that human beings (although some are evil and weak) are, more often than not, strong and good and generally not fans of evil. At worst, most people (not the immature ones or the ones so bad damaged in life they have become weak/evil) are as natural and "neutral" as that hypothetical hurricane.  What religions don't teach or seem to believe is that (if there is a God) the Earth and life are part of a big picture that can be amazing and beautiful, but that, because of how it all works in Nature, sometimes doesn't result in the happiest of things for the creatures living on Earth.  There's no "evil" involved - just things that cause pain and heartbreak because of the power of Nature.

    If there's a God, I have no idea what "He" thinks or doesn't; but I can't help but believe He probably doesn't want people viewing his creations (people) as "evil and weak" any more than He'd want us to see things like Natural disasters as "evil and powerful".  I can't help but suspect that He would find "sin" in refusing, or not being able, to see the "neutral" and the "good" and the "strong" in the human souls He supposedly created; or that He's particularly appreciate having little populations of His creatures who would have everyone else believe that all the heartache in the world should be blamed on either people, themselves, or Satan.

    There are people who suffer with illness and pain, either themselves, or while watching loved ones with it.  Some people say, "Oh - it's all in how you react to things."  Well, anyone who has ever loved anyone knows that being able to turn off love and "not react the wrong the way" is not healthy and is not real love at all.  People's illnesses can come because they inherited a gene.  Who's to blame?  The grandparents who fell in love and have kids?  The grandparents who didn't kill themselves before having kids just in case they may have the gene?  The grandparents who didn't make sure there wasn't a pregnancy or make sure it didn't progress?  No Satan is responsible for things like any number of the illnesses so many people get just because we all inherit a tendency toward one illness or another, and all the trying to fight it off in the world doesn't always help.

    It's one thing to say people shouldn't blame God for every bad thing that happens.  It's another to say they should blame themselves.  It's yet another, too, to suggest that all victims of all bad things have somehow managed not to fight off "Satan" in their lives.  That may make people (who haven't had some of that non-evil-and-yet-awful stuff go on that just goes on in life) feel a little safer, because they may get to delude themselves into thinking if they fight off "Satan" well enough they won't have bad things happening to them.  (Besides, they also get to feel self-righteous and not have to worry about understanding, or having compassion, when thinking about other people's heartache and pain.  The non-religious version of that self-righteousness and lack of compassion is believing "all anyone has to do" is "respond the right way" to the bad stuff in life.

    Hmmm.   I'm not a religious person or a "Jesus kind of person", but I'm well familiar with the "saying", "Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers that you do unto me." - and I can't help but wonder where that particular line does or doesn't fit into this blaming-people-for-everything-bad-that-happens-to-them thing??   hmm

  23. ahorseback profile image40
    ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

    Hey I saw a bumper sticker the other day,
    " Don't blame Christianity On God!".......

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    paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

    Man can have free will and no interference in man’s affairs in this world; and when an abnormality or catastrophe or illness takes place; then one should not morally blame the Creator-God Allah YHWH.One who resorts to it wants to surrender one's will or choices.

    One is not therefore justified in blaming the Creator-God.

 
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