Can we see Creator-God?

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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   I hear often in these forums; people ask to show the Creator-God.
   
   Can we see everything with our naked eyes?
   If we can’t see; then why ask for it?
   
   I don’t think it is a reasonable demand.

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      couturepopcafeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Perhaps seeing is not always with the eyes.

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         pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Yes

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         paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Then what they actually mean precisely?

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      TheRaptorClawposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Well we can not see him until we go to heaven. When we go to heaven we will see our father, The Lord (God). Here on Earth God speaks to us in mysterious ways. You will see him if you go to heaven.

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      Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You can't see with your "naked eyes" the flu virus that is attacking your immune system and making you sick, or the molecules of nitrogen/oxygen that make up the atmosphere you breathe and when they move around; you feel the wind, or the packets of energy moving through a conductor when it powers your electrical appliances.
      
      No, these things cannot be seen with the "naked eye" yet they can be observed, detected and measured quite accurately with instruments that expand and accentuate the ability and capacity of the naked eye.
      
      In regards to the existence of these examples, we wouldn't have many of the conveniences science has provided us if it didn't make a reasonable demand. So, we make a reasonable demand for believers to produce their gods.
      
      The wait continues, unabated.

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      paravedaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes! But we need that perfect silence of the questioning mind to see the God

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   insearchof truthposted 12 years ago

   You can't see the wind, but you can feel it on your face and see the trees blowing.....

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      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      These are attributes of air; so one knows a thing from its attributes.
      
      Do you mean asking to see the Creator-God is asking his attribues?
      
      Have I understood you correctly? Please

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   insearchof truthposted 12 years ago

   Perhaps that is one way to put it.  If you liken it to wind, you can't see it.  Just like you can't see God.  But you know the wind is blowing because you feel it on your face, like you know God is present eg. when you have experienced healing, or his power in other ways.

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      simeonvisserposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      There is a difference though: "experiencing God" happens inside your head and is hard to prove to others. With wind we can, at least, build a device that demonstrates to all observers that the wind is blowing.

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         insearchof truthposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Very true, like a subjective experience rather than the objective observation.  I will have to think about this, because I see God in other things, like creation that are explainable other ways so this is still subjective.  I need to perhaps come up with an objective observation for such an argument.  There may be none......

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         arbposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         If I experience the movement of a particular music, it is a real experience, although I can not share it with anyone else, nor can i guarantee that hearing the same music will create a like experience in you. None the less, the experience existed. The inability to prove to you that it existed is impossible. We are neither proving nor disproving - Experience is owned. I can not remove it from me and give it to you and until I can, proof will not exist.

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            paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I could not understand you fully. Will you paraphrase your view point for me , please?

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               arbposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I will try exceedingly.
               
               1) An experience is real to the recipient, therfore, it exist to everyone sharing the same experience.
               2) It does not exist to those who have not experienced it.
               3) existence and non-existence are relative to experience. An taste of an apple is known only to those who experience the apple. Unless you, yourself taste it, I can not give you the taste.
               4) God is known through experience.
               5) Experience is proof only to the owner of the experience, therefore
               6) unless I can remove (the experience) from myself I can not give it to you, therefore, the proof is within me and others with the same experience.
               
               Have you ever told a funny story and no one laughed? Did you say, "I guess you had to be there". I can tell you of my experience, but, it will always be mine.

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                  paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  I appreciate your above points.

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   Joy56posted 12 years ago

   you dont see electricity but you feel it's power

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      Mark Knowlesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      But electricity actually exists.

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         Joy56posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Oh yeah plug it in then, and take a bath.

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   habeeposted 12 years ago

   I see God in a flower, in a sunset, in the stars, in the rise and fall of the oceans' tides...
   
   The real question is: Can we see Mark Knowles?? Is that really him in his avatar - or is it Peter Gabriel?

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      Joy56posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Please Please Please do not insult Peter Gabriel, now he is talented.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      It is me dammit!

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         habeeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         LOL! But can you sing? Hmmmmm...

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            Mark Knowlesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Tone deaf.

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            Joy56posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            He can do anything.....

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   habeeposted 12 years ago

   My husband has the same problem. Unfortunately he doesn't realize it - especially after a few beers and the availability of a karaoke machine and an audience.

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      Joy56posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      i remember being in the ladies one party we went to and i heard someone attempting to sing a Neil Young song..... It was dreadful, and i love Neil Young.  Imagine when i walked in and saw it was my darling husband.... I walked up to him on the stage and handed the microphone back to a family member.  Everyone still talks about it, they think i showed myself up, .......   i had to do it, for the sake of Neil Young......

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         habeeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Sometimes a woman has to do what a woman has to do! lol

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            Joy56posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            you bet......

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   Greek Oneposted 12 years ago

   I saw Her

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      Joy56posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      you saw me..............................

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         Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         you do look familiar

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            Joy56posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            So do you actually......

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               Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               actually what?

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                  Joy56posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  look familiar....

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                     Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     nah.. not really

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                        Joy56posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        are you wasting my time. 

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                           Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           NOW you sound familiar!

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                              Joy56posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              You waste a lot of peoples time then do you?

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                                 Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 only the special ones

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                                    Joy56posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                    aw, you do know the only reason i talk to you at all is that i love your avatar.

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                                       Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                       better than nothing!

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                                          Joy56posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                          absolutely, you have taken on your avatar's kind of stance, if you know what i mean

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                                             Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                             I'm blind, colorless, cold as stone, ridged and have been dead for thousands of years?

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                                                Joy56posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                You are warming up a bit, your sentences could be a little longer though

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                                                   Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                   it always comes back to the size issue with you women

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                                                      Joy56posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                      now you are really relaxed

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   Home Girlposted 12 years ago

   I cannot see God, but I can see that Joy56 and Greek One flirt with each other.

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      Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      oh pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase.
      
      She isn't even Greek Orthodox!

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         Home Girlposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Nobody is perfect.

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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   Can we see Creator-God?
   
   We cannot see things far away or too close from our eyes. We cannot see things too large or too small. We should not see things which could damage our eyesight .
   
   Why should one insist on seeing the Creator-God Allah YHWH?

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    Dayo Bensonposted 12 years ago

    Moses saw Him. God definitely reveals Himself.

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       paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Yes; Moses saw Him in a sense; but the Jews who wanted to see Him could not see Him when they were jolted by His power.

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    exorterposted 12 years ago

    if you look you can see the works of His Love in a lot of places

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       paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       That is understanding and knowing Him from His attributes.

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    paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

    One could find many places in this world where there is complete silence. Can't you find one such place?

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    paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

    Can we see Creator-God?
    
    We cannot see things far away or too close from our eyes. We cannot see things too large or too small. We should not see things which could damage our eyesight .
    
    Why should one insist on seeing the Creator-God Allah YHWH?

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