god man human in its image or human made god in its image?

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   pisean282311posted 13 years ago

   it is believed by believers that god made humans in its image but is it so or it is reverse?...for e.g. get angry , wanting to be appreciated , need of others praying , need of people remembering , punishing , judging etc...if we look at way and means of how god wants it too...it is typical human than from super being...your views on it?

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      kessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      God created man in His image
      
      The man who is the image sees God in his image.
      
      Therefore the Father sees the sons
      And the Sons see the Father.
      
      Those who cannot see the Father within his own image are not from the Father.
      Neither does the Father sees Him.

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         pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         So those who do not see the Father came from where do you know?

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            kessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            There is a Father of Light and a Father of darkness...
            
            One is full of Knowledge and the other is totally ignorant even of his own self.
            
            The sons adopt their traits so therefore one son will never know His father.

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               pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               So are they separate these Fathers or one father?

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                  kessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Ultimately in the scheme of all things there is only One father...
                  But in the temporal realm the there will always be two fathers.

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                     pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Oh yes I understand what you mean now. I do agree.

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      stoneyyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Man made deities in his/her image.  Not only that but deity is a sock puppet as deity likes everything the individual likes.

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         pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I agree with you in that man has made deities in his image. However, I don't think too many of us made that to be a sock puppet.

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      Druid Dudeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The chicken or the egg? God is the beginning, man is the end.

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   pennyofheavenposted 13 years ago

   God made man in his image. In the bible God is spirit. So the image that makes sense then is spirit.. The attributes you mention are mans perception of what is physical not spiritual.

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      pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      so why chief focus is on these attributes?

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         pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         The physical body is denser then spirit. Just as physical matter is denser than air. When the things of mind from the physical body thinks it is thinking in a denser form than that of spirit. Remove the thinking, we would perceive much more than what we do. It is dependent on these perceptions to perceive more of the finer spirit of who we are. Like William Blake says....If the doors of perception were cleansed we would see infinity...or something like that.

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            pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            got that but to remove that we must remove religion from the domain...religion itself is prism of viewing what you call infinity...nature itself is unique book and much better book than most books which are called divine...isn't it?

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               pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               We are all unique and we each have our own way. Not everyone gets the nature thing, the religion thing, philosophy thing. or even the moralist thing.  If we all perceived in the same manner there would be no need for any "thing" at all. 
               
               The diversity and uniqueness of our perceptions is demanding other ways to exist to perceive more. Today proves that, as scientists are making further discoveries, new alternate therapies are being discovered and so much more alternate ways to help one perceive. There isn't enough ways that man is satisfied with to find our true existence. So new ways are coming to the fore hard and fast,

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                  pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  you have a point...

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            Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Now, be very careful where you're going with this, because no physical laws support the existence of spirits, in fact, many phsyical laws would be violated by their existence, hence they would no longer be physical laws. 
            
            

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               pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Not if spirit is energy. How could energy violate these laws then?

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                  Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Why would you call energy "spirit" when energy is already understood?
                  
                  So, what exactly is a spirit? From where does this so-called energy emit? What kind of energy is it?

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                     pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Why wouldn't I when that is what we are?
                     
                     Everything about us and in us is energy. Everything around us is energy.
                     
                     Everything emits this energy.

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                        Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Everything emits what energy? What exactly are you talking about?

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                           pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Matter is energy right (potential energy)? Energy also comes in the form of non matter. Kinetic some might call it and there are many types of kinetic. Our bodies are matter, what we consume our bodies convert into energy to sustain our bodies. The energy from what we eat then is by way of consuming another form of matter(also energy).  Air, sun, rain, wind etc are all forms of energy.
                           
                           If you can name something that doesn't have energy or a form of energy I am interested to know.

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                              Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              So, what you're saying is that everything emits potential energy, kinetic energy, what?
                              
                              You also still need to describe a spirit and how it relates to energy.

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                                 pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                 Yes and I did describe spirit in energy terms.

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                                    Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                    *sigh*
                                    
                                    Never mind.

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                                    Druid Dudeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                    Penny, describe peanut butter and how it relates to the peanut. Beel is obtuse, and I think he likes the darkness. HMMM.

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   Home Girlposted 13 years ago

   

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      Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You better not cry, because, I'M TELLING YOU WHY
      
      Or Satan, is coming TO TOWN

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