Mick Menous wrote:
It was a totally different generation at the time too. Bottom line: Christians are NOT what they used to be long ago. They have changed and matured. Even the Vatican now knows that what their Christian ancestors did in the past was wrong and even they now condemn such actions.
I think everybody will agree on this point.
Christians have changed and matured? Not at all. The foundation for religion is selfish based, so nothing has changed.
How come the foundation of religion is selfish based viz a viz atheism?
Buddha,Krishna,Moses, Zoroaster. Jesus and Muhammad were not selfish people; they served humanity most selflessly. Didn't they?
Please present other human heroes who were more selfless than them.
It is for this that Word of the Creator-God has taught human kind to become one in their footsteps, anyone of them:
[1:6] Guide us in the right path —
[1:7] The path of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy blessings, those who have not incurred Thy displeasure, and those who have not gone astray.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … r.php?ch=1
They were blessed by the Creator-God as they were selfless people who served humanity well and to the perfection.
Since you insist on lumping Jesus in with those others, I insist on telling you that it was JESUS who was unselfish, so much so that He gave His very life so that even you, paarsurrey, have the chance to become born-again and live eternally in heaven with Him. If you choose to recognize Him for who He really is. He is not of the ilk of Muhammad; He is far above that.
Hey Paar, religion is selfish based because it has a person form a belief that puts themselves above/before others. It's the definition of selfish behavior. As for Atheism- it's not a religion, but is a specific ideology.
As for the rest of your post- it's completely meaningless.
Buddha,Krishna, Zoroaster,Moses,Jesus and Muhammad did not form a belief system on their own; it was the Creator-God who chose them, being selfless people for sure, to reveal a message from Him to the mankind; so they were perfectly selfless people and one becomes selfless if one follows them.
Buddha,Krishna, Zoroaster,Moses,Jesus and Muhammad; their life prior to their selection on the high office of messenger prophet testifies to it.They amassed no wealth or any riches.
No such selfless charateristics exist in the atheists; can an atheist quote any such human heroes known world-wide?
BS. Nothing more than BS.
You need to incorporate science in your understanding of the human brain and mind, into your equation.
Selfless characteristics are IN all humans. What part do you not understand. It's a descriptive behavior. As for Atheist who are human heroes? Heroes insinuates acts of heroism. No such exist, if derived from selfish behavior to begin with.
So the Atheists don't have any good people in them like Buddha, Socrates, Krishna, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. No names to count in the atheists; pity on the atheists.
Whoever Mick Menous is, his first point of confusion is in equating the Vatican with the top level of Christianity. While I'm sure a Catholic can be a Christian, it's not a given that they all are. The Vatican does not speak for all Christians. And visa versa.
Strange! Not even the Christians believe that they have changed over the centuries positively and have matured.
Christians have generally fragmented beliefs as their religion has descended into a shambles of conflicting sects.
As the range of 'belief' spreads wider and wider it is becoming unclear what a Christian is, and Christians do not recognise each other. On the fringes the beliefs are almost indiscernable from other self professed magicians and witches.
So you think that the Christians have not changed positively with the time and are far from being a mature belief system?
Do you think Christianity was a good belief system to start with?
Thanks for your input.
Hard to tell whose is worse - yours or theirs. All irrational belief systems are inherently "bad," though.
Hope that helps.
Everyone over fifty has an old LP they love. That sticks on the first track.
I am not over 50. But perhaps if I stop making a case for religion being a bad thing, it will all of a sudden become a good thing. Odd you never chastise the religionists who start these incessant threads.
Go do some backlinking or something.
Freedom of thought and religion will have that kind of effect.
Sadly, many nations don't allow people to have such liberty
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20110321/twl … d0ae9.html
I see that 30 brave rebels protesting against political imprisonment and torture have been brutally suppressed and imprisoned. And that forced indoctrination of children into numerous pseudo-sect religions is still practiced by the state . . . . .
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