What are the origins are origins of sorcery? When & where? Egypt?
What influences did sorcery have on religion & vice versa?
It first started with cups, without cups there would have been no sorcers to put them on, and then there was the world cup of soccer, and a lot of misspelling and repitition in your original question.
Well first of all, you have to remember when sorcery originated, it was around a time when people were a lot more superstitious about things, and rumors would spread throughout the land of tall tales and myths. This would lead to a lot of misguided myths like Werewolves, Vampires and such. Where sure a person could tell a bunch of strangers that he was attacked by a vicious pack of wolves, then sooner or later, as these strangers tell their friends, as their friends tell their friends, and so and so forth, then a lot of times the tells would get misconstrued to where the story would sound something like this....
some guy was attacked by a series of werewolves in the next town
even though we all know that's not what was originally said, but you get the idea. personally, i don't think sorcery ever really existed, as i think it was just a way to explain things that most people didn't understand back then. then again, i could be wrong on that.
I'm looking at the history of alchemy & am wondering where sorcery fits in - apparently one of the first alchemists was a sorcerer
Sorcery is the "Practice" of Evil ... it is sometimes called Black Magic ...
In Sorcery and Black Magic, the Sorcerer, "begs Filthy Spirits" to do harm to unsuspecting clean individuals ...
These Filthy Spirits doing harm, to Humans and d'Ginns, are either Satan's Human Followers, or the d'Ginnic Satan's Progeny; meaning,his children, or his accursed children's descendents ... they are the accursed among Humans and the d'Ginns.
Sorcery ... meaning, the humans Practicing The Lord's "Forbidden" ... has its Origins, in the Act of Cain ... a son of Adam, Peace be Upon Adam, and we can see Evil's practice Mentioned, in the Torah, the Bible, and Al'Quran ...
The sundry Cabals, to some degree, stipulate, by rationalizing Evil in such, as Freemasonry, Voodoo, the Templar, and the 'Foretelling, by Numbers' as a religion sanctioned Practice etc., all these have Origins, in Persian, Indian, and Babylonian etc. Practices.
For example, the corrupt Practices of ancient Persians, though these were the Practices of the corrupted, among the followers of Prophet David's Message, Peace be him ... but strangely, it was the "Magi" as a whole...after whose name, the Term "Magic" was later coined by corrupt clergies !
The Magi, however, were a Noble People, followers of Prophet David, Peace be Upon him, they were among the first to talk to, and present gifts to the infant, Jesus Christ, in the manger... Peace be Upon Jesus Christ ...
The Magi had learned Magic from Two Angels, who Taught magic, at Babel, in The Purpose of Creation ... but it was for doing Good, in the learned, imparting the Knowledge, and with it, the ability, to distinguish Good from Evil... The Corruption was, in the Practicing of the Knowledge for Evil purposes.
Later, in King Solomon and other Prophets times ... Magic was Practiced by the Deniers of God ... as they do today.
Our Prophet, Muhammad, Peace and Blessings of Allah be Upon him, was also a Victim of Sorcery, for a brief spell, till Allah Almighty, Granted him the Knowledge, to annihilate all the Evils of Magic ...
For Sorcery is Practiced by the Evil, in unleashing it upon those, they deem a Threat, to their Evil ...
The problem with your question, Baileybear, is that "sorcery" is a generic term. It is any magical system that involves the invocation or evocation or cooperation of spirits.
From this definition, it's pretty clear that "sorcery" is a universal concept and has been practiced since prehistoric times. Even the simplest of folk magic, if a spirit is involved, could be referred to as sorcery. Leaving a dish of milk for the Fairy Folk to protect your home could be called sorcery.
Alchemy, on the other hand, is a very specific form of magic with a very specific history. all that the history you are reading is saying is that the early alchemist in question practiced some form of sorcery prior to this specific form. Sort of like, "He was a runner before he joined the track squad."
When the snake cheated Eve to eat the forbidden fruit. That snake was the work of sorcery.
The knowledge came through Egypt, certainly, but did not originate from there. Look to the much older Sumerian religions for your answers.
Authors such as Andrew Collins and Lawrence Gardiner have published extensively in this field of research.
Rebellion against God brought forth self-righteousness and an open ear to the influence of Satan.The outcome is Satan-worship.
Actually, it was aliens posing as humans and just using advanced technology.
Sorcery started just the same way and time as religion I expect.
Alchemy however would just have been early science.
I must take a peek!
My children were bought up on Asterix comics. A pretty humorous set of stories of the the Gauls and the magic potion they used against the Romans.
Their sorcerer is called Getafix, very funny!
I think magic & gods filled the gaps of what was not understood, particularly in ancient times
So much to read, so little time, BaileyBear!
In an unqualified opinion, I would say it had its origns in the first known men and women, from evolving and atempted learning about physics, biology, the chemistry of all things surrounding them, that they could not explain. Fear, superstition, and natural curiosity all in a human mix. No real start date, as much as gradual evolvement into it. Passed along person to person possibly.
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