Christianity Questions
It's a good idea to have the Word of God everywhere you are. You can use "post it notes" of the Word in your: car, on your refrigerator, near your bed, on your front door, back door, bathroom mirror, etc. Once you've read each as daily through out a week; you can rotate the post it notes. This can be fun if done with enthusiasm. God Bless
Great ideas. Very good.
U get a cookie!
God Bless.
Yes - they are our cousins. All life on earth is related. Yet you prefer religious clap trap to real knowledge. Sad.
I would be interested in this process of elimination where you managed to eliminate an infinite number of other possibilities. How long did this take you?
Easy. Atheists don't kno what they believe. Neither do Agnostics. So that proves there is a God. If u disagree, than please, enlighten me, and tell me something no atheist has ever told me: where did the first living cells that sparked evolution, or the first atoms that caused the Big Bang, come from? It took me several years. Being born in a Christian home isn't the same as being Christian.
How does me not believing in a god prove there is one?
Just because there are some things we do not know - does not mean it was Majik.Magic and Supernaturality rn't the same thing?
Wot is Supernaturality?
What nonsense. When Jesus does it, it is not majik? Color me confused.
Prove your statements please. And while we are talking about spelling. Do you see how many spelling mistakes in your statements there are? And you call me on spelling instead of proving your ridiculous claims?
You still didn't tell me how long it took you to eliminate all the other infinite possibilities to leave yourself with the Majikal Biblikal Invisible God as the only option. Must have taken a long time huh?
Cagsil wrote "What sin? My actions don't harm others, nor do they harm myself".
did you read the book "im okay, you're okay" the truth is Gods okay, you're not
The point of God is not whether our sins hurt other people.. of course i am sure the adulterous relationship that you might have, won't hurt anyone, lol.. be realistic man... but the point is.. not that our sins hurt anyone but do they keep God out of your life? and if they keep God out of your life, oh... lake of fire... i guess they do not hurt you, but they will.
I need God and I am not ashamed to say it
I am just a better and happier person having Him in my life!The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all. Amen.
There are some 38,000 reported sects of Christianity. Perhaps, you could enlighten them all so they are one unit all agreeing with one another.
Of course, what will ultimately occur is that they will probably all state emphatically that it is you who hardly knows anything.Then, by your own logic, your OP is fallacious and contradictory. The point is that if there are so many denominations, they must be teaching something different than the other denominations. And evidently, they are.
Exactly.
I <3 emoticons. In other words, the differences are of minor and major concern, which is basically a stating of the obvious.
If there are over 38,000 different denominations, then there are clearly well over 38,000 different interpretations that have much more to do than just strictness of liberalism.
With over 38,000 denominations? Obviously, they have very little in common.
Beelzedad-
Out of all the Christians they/we do all agree on the most important subject Jesus died for our sins to save us. Now if we will all realize this is the foundation we agree on and come together in one accord that's a different thing. God will and is bringing the Body of Christ- those that have accepted Jesus as their Lord together in agreement. You may not see it but it's not mainly a physical thing but in agreement in one accord through prayer, praise, having the same spirit of God and sharing the Gospel of Jesus.That is not entirely true. Otherwise there would not have been 2,000 years of warfare. Your beliefs are meaningless and simply cause strife because there is no compromise possible. Why aren't you off preying somewhere instead of demonstrating that 1) you do not follow the bible and 2) you do not actually believe - you just want to fight?
You are not doing any such thing. You have nonsense to back your beliefs up with.
A Majik book?
Heard of Northern Ireland? Unneededly? I though we sed we woz not gonna make up words that dint meen nuffink.Innit wot god sed?
Innit iz a wuerd alsssso I fink.
Did dod seddit innit?
Unneedlesslyismininnit?
I suppose YOU are involved in a cult with the correct Biblical interpretations?
So a few of the commandments have become obsolete? So we are down to 8 commandments now? By the way, what language did god use when inscribing the tablets Moses brought down from the mountain? And could the people even read them at the time? Most of the people were still illiterate during the supposed time of Jesus.
And who can vouch for Moses veracity?I don't follow myths created by illiterate goat herders who think a deity impregnating a 13 year old virgin is worthy of worshiping. It was a "godly" act, so do you think it's okay to do the same?
Trivialities? You are saying it doesn't make any difference what language the 10-now whittled down to 8 according to you-Commandments makes no difference? Do you even know what language the now accepted New Testament was written in? Or that there actually was no person named Jesus Christ crucified on the cross?
Where did you get your ordination? Mail order?Where did I insult you? The mail order thing? You didn't answer my question so how could that be an insult? Yes, I knew what language the NT was written in. I also know you have no proof of any record of "Jesus Christ" ever existing at all. Yoshua was the name the Hebrews knew him as and you should know this if you truly researched his supposed life.
But I'm sure you can point out some religious website which claims to prove his existence, your type always does. The Romans kept excellent records of criminals and others who came before their officials in legal matters. You should have no problem finding his name included in their records if he ever existed.
"History records that there was a person named Jesus and the four gospels written by witnesses attest to His crucifixion."
You might want to rethink the above statement, Don. The first Gospel was not written until 30 years after the alleged crucifixion of Yoshua. And if you haven't ever noticed before, the Gospels are qualified as being written "according to" the so called witnesses. Hearsay in other words. And let's hear the dates when the other three "eyewitness accounts" were first written, if you dare to give them here.
I did not say I thought myself the better man at all. These are your words, not mine. I am excited to see your historical records proving the existence of a man named Jesus Christ. If you can show me these I will apologize to you. If not, well, you're a man of god and will certainly do what is right.
Oh, and don't plan on using Josephus as your proof as his works were corrupted by the church hundreds of years later.
Interesting post.
Why dont you turn it into your first hub
Welcome.Ah. Attacking atheists again. Is that what the bible says to do?
Fortunately - you are no longer allowed to burn us at the stake - so we are free to believe or disbelieve nonsense based on logic and reason instead of your palpable fear.ARROGANCE of not believing garbage? OK
Yes, pride is one of the things I actually MOST worry about. It's what brought down Lucifer, Thutmosis III (the Pharaoh from Moses' time), many Biblical characters and many historical ones. It's definitely a VERY bad sin (not that there's any good sin
) and is very powerful, so it's something I believe everyone with common sense should be afraid of. Ur in my prayers, God bless.
- dixie28714posted 13 years ago
0Nobody knows the entire bible front to back without assuming some things. I believe religion has more to do with the heart and not so much quoting every scripture perfectly. God knows our hearts, our thoughts and what we are really up to. Some people just quote scriptures for the wrong reasons, for self image instead of helping and doing it for the right reasons. As long as your heart has the right intentions you can do no wrong, God will help you
Aww. So no one should Kwestion it ?
Siiiiigh.
How sad that people Kwestion it.
Sigh.Wow - you got the moral high ground then. Sure you int a beleeber?
Sigh.
- Emile Rposted 13 years ago0
The only ones who don't see do not choose not to see something that is there. You just finished telling us there is nothing logical or empirical, which means there is nothing to see. Then you start spouting that you see something that we choose not to see?
You do realize this makes no sense - right?Yes - I know. I don't really get why these people are not locked up for their own (and our) safety. If I went about "witnessing," that I saw aliens standing next to him and if he did not believe me, they would punish him - pretty sure I would be.
Hmmmm. So Adam and Eve personally conversed with the all powerful deity and still disobeyed him. They knew god existed but still had the nerve to go against his word.
And you expect those who've never met the deity to do differently? Even Moses got snippy with god and was prohibited from entering the promised land.
The point is, it seems those who have actually conversed with your god had a certain amount of disrespect for the deity. Can you explain why this was so?Being sassy to humans is one thing. Being sassy to an all powerful being is something else. How often do you sass god?
Sorry, like other parts of the novel, this makes no sense whatsoever. You act as if your god didn't know Eve would succumb to the serpents temptation. Either he did already know it would happen and it was a set up, or he isn't as all-knowing as the novel claims. Which is it, PD?
That is because the things you say do not make sense and many of us have checked them out.
And where do "personal relationships," with Invisible Beings belong?
Exactly - in your head.I think I'm wasting my time attempting to educate you at all..
You seem not to have any input except to tell others "your wrong!"...
Sarcastic responses do not make you look smart. Nor do they make the previous poster look wrong.
They simply show you lack anything of value to add to the discussion.
And only ignorant people base things to be truth by a simple belief.
Actually, you would have to rip it apart, so as to figure out the "metaphors", so you can truly understand the "parable" context.
Yes, many people take it literal, when metaphors were actually used. It goes to show the direct stupidity of those who read it without researching it.
Correct, there have been huge arguments. Which should tell you something about it.
The Christianity Bible and every other version derived from it.
I think I already said this. You repeating it, just verifies it.
It's all speculation and nothing more.
And many things that were claimed to be seen has been debunked, because of the established timeline of consciousness within humankind. Meaning, full human consciousness and it's stages of development, and at what stage human consciousness was at, at the time of the written scriptures.
You're probably right about "those" people. However, there are much more intelligent people who have no agenda toward religion, which have objectively ripped apart scripture to gain true understanding of history and humankind.
True enough.
I've looked IN myself, which is what Jesus originally taught his disciples. I introspective search my self, consciously everyday. Sorry to say, NO GOD found. I make all decisions. I create all thoughts.
I don't prescribe to anything you mentioned above. It's all speculation.
Only ignorance would do so, because Jesus' teachings were never about an external "god", but internal. What part did you miss about his teachings?
Meaningless statement.
Try to learn something would you. You picking and choosing select pieces to support your position isn't objective, but proves you cannot get by your own ego and subjective view.
Yes it does. Too bad you still don't understand "WHY" religion exists to begin with. The "god" concept was ADDED to religion, so as to give mysteries answers.
Actually, I don't say anything of it. YOU are in control of your own actions. YOU create whatever you CHOOSE in your life.
No god required.Distorted what you said. Isn't that the "kettle?"
All you did was bring up specific situations without ever addressing what I said to begin with. So, you're guilt comes first, before your implication of mine. But, nice try though.
Actually, that's NOT what I said. I said, YOU need to get more information through research of the words you claim are TRUTH based on your belief. Do try to get it right.
My argument cannot fall apart, except with your inability to see beyond yourself.
Actually, as I said- you need to figure out what words are metaphors of the parables written in the primitive religious language available. Apparently, you've not done your research. Nothing new for a believer.
The only ones who claim evolution isn't true are those who support the original "god" concept. But, nice try.
I am saying increase your individual knowledge and do the research required, instead of faithfully believing something you didn't research. DUH!
I have for over 10+ years and found that the "BIBLE" itself has been completely explained, using proper metaphor context of the parables written. Something YOU haven't obviously done.
Actually, this is untrue. It would beat a lot longer, but doesn't due to other circumstances, such as environment.
This only points out that you are willing to attribute the human body's amazing qualities, to something else, instead of learning more about it. As for answering your question- I don't have the knowledge to answer it, considering my knowledge in human anatomy is quite limited. It also wasn't/isn't a concern. I am alive, living and understand my own life. So, there isn't an actually NEED to know it. Something you apparently don't grasp, and that's understanding your own life.
As I already stated, my knowledge is limited with regards to human anatomy.
I'm sure you do. You NEED it. I don't. I understand my life. I understand I am the only authority IN my life.
YOU require a god to make your choices for you. You require a god to tell you how to live, because you don't know any better.
That must make you proud. What a shame.
There are many problems with modern understandings of the Bible. Like, for instance, almost every time in the Bible where it says "snake" or "serpent", it's not a snake or serpent. It's actually a metaphor used back then for someone evil (i.e. Satan). Sorry, no snake in the garden. Just an angel with ego-problems.
Exactly! The only reasoning religion has access to is circular.
Typical! You twisted what I said.
The circular reasoning of religion is obvious and has been mentioned and explained many times here already.
Why pretend you don't know about it and twist what I said?
I should not even bother to ask, an honest reply would be a miracle!
It's simpler than all of that science stuff.
I don't belief in myths as reality.
To come to that conclusion all that is required is logic and common sense.
No other belief system needs to replace a belief in the tooth fairy either for most thinking adults.
Not sure about some here though, they may have to learn science to get away from the tooth fairy myth.Not something worthy of discussion and done to death.
I don't believe in fairies, goblins, invisible entities, or that psychotic scriptures were dictated or written by anything but a psychotic.
I need not argue past that or about evolution.
Evolution is not a theory, it is reality with millions of peer reviewed articles and a mass of empirical evidence to support it.
More info comes in daily.
You have a mythical yarn that claims a god that made itself, made mankind then wiped out all but 8 of them in one fit of psychotic rage, then became his own son, then killed himself to atone for the screw up job he made of it!
The carpenter who blames the chair he made for being faulty syndrome.
It's pathetic!Been there done that with religionists.... they just lie about the evidence, quote from scientists that have a religious background and agenda, and are considered nutters by other scientists.
Then they make ridiculous claims about sky fairies.If ur not gonna support ur arguement at all, then u might as well get off here, dude. Otherwise, ur just insulting a straw man.
No strawman! If you had been here long enough you would have seen the information I have posted (with links) to the background of these scientists.
Every one of then had an axe to grind. Science doesn't generally concern itself with proving or disproving religious myth.
Just demonstrating what your gibberish sounds like to thinking people.
I have given plenty of facts. I also pointed out that the bible does NOT say the earth is round. Yet you ignored that completely. Odd - seeing as you had based your argument that the bible was full of science on that.
You are not interested in hearing any facts. You just want to fight with peopel like Jesus taught you to do.
There have been many biblical fakes too, if this really makes a difference to you. You seem to suggest because some scientific claims are fake all of them are. Do you feel the same concerning religious fakes? You know, like the link you posted suggesting several of us visit Turkey to find the truth about Noah's ark.
Get real dude, you can't have it both ways. If you have a degree in biology, you will know the timeline for the flood is wrong because the genetic diversity among some species of animals could not have reached its present point in such a short time. Two animals and their offspring would not be able to account for such diversity in the genetic markers.
Check out the cheetah and how their genetic markers have developed for an example of my point. But since you have a degree in biology, you either already know this or else think scientists are lying intentionally just to fool the fundies.
- Sherlock221bposted 13 years ago0
Your NOT the real Sherlock Holmes????
That is scary. Who is the real Holmes then?
I'm not sure of the origins of sky fairy, but mythical invisible entities are called many things including gods.
I believe that many christians are intelligent. As a christian myself, I was not.
I was, young ignorant and unworldly.
The belief itself I find to be very stupid and have explained why many times.
Indoctrination is essential to come to the conclusion that a god has any say in humanity other than as a subconscious response to the fear of death.
The psychotic language of the OT god is proof positive that there is nothing "godly" about making threats of torture to non followers either.
Religious belief requires a suspension of logic, and a denial of the proof we see every day that it is a nonsense.Of course I don't believe the biblical account of the flood!
It is one of the many demonstrations of "gods power" that took a local flood and turned it in to a worldwide one.
The know world would have had floods, just like every other part of the world has floods.
Unless you are claiming that the Japanese disaster was gods work, why would a god have anything to do with a natural disaster?- Is the earth flat as well?
Round? What a lie. Where does the bible say the earth is ROUND?
Have you even read this book? Christians believed the earth was flat for many years.
Please stop lying at me. I know this is what your religion teaches is the right thing to do, but still.
Where did the water go after the flood? Or come from before the flood, for that matter. No reputable scientist will verify your report of the ark being found anywhere. Feel free to post a link from a non-religious site.
This is PROOF?
N u INHnt alike wo t ebolshun sez be coz there int any wot sez in the BIBLE innit?Thanks so much for at least addressing my questions. Your answers, although entertaining, indicate your lack of understanding of how the planet is formed.
The amount of water it would have taken to cover the entire earth could not have existed below the surface of the earth. Because the solid material of the earth's plates sit atop molten rock, or magma if you prefer, the resulting steam which would have resulted from such a great amount of water would have caused the surface to be constantly exploding. Look up Thera for just such an event.
And please point out the "water shooting out of the caverns" bit in the bible. I guess I missed the "great detail" you spoke of.
I think there is a place in the US where you can go see a giant statue of Paul Bunyan. I don't believe it represents a real live giant, though.
A group of religious "scientists" was recent caught trying to smuggle in fake ark artifacts to Turkey not long ago. Why would they do this? Any ideas?I do not waste my time with these types of sites, as I told you earlier. You stated the cavern theory was described in great detail and I asked for a biblical reference, not a link to another crackpot creationists site.
Maybe, perhaps, what if,-none of this cuts it when trying to prove a point. If you depend on these types of sites for your information then you are wasting my time and yours. You may use the novel, but not the nincompoops.
ETA-The author of the link you provided is neither a geologist nor a theologian and has a habit of avoiding debates with anyone with a scientific background. This includes other creationists as well. It does you no good to use quacks as references to back your arguments. Sorry!
What I get is that you shouldn't have explained the joke! I was fine with it!
The FSM is an interesting response to the other less visible gods.
Ramen.Only in America
Oh and theres Angel cake and Devils cake
- klarawieckposted 13 years ago0
Give the strawman a rest, or give him the darned heart already, Earnest!
Oh yeah... that was the lion, right? I could never remember!
Yeh I read all that.
What a gutless way to attack a subject!
You make inane personal comments about me amongst yourselves?
No answers eh?
I was not referring to this thread, I was referring to the religious forums in general which you all follow, where there are plenty of references to scientists exposed for their religious connections and indoctrination, usually at an early age.whatcha talkin bout willis?
Love the nose!
He was also a helluva liar.
That only makes him more human!
I know, because I see the other forums and can read.
This is the crux of the problem.
I suggest you do some more research on the ark near Mount Ararat, and while you are at it check out all the other places the ark has been found, all the photos and forgeries.
Mount Ararat has been debunked for about 30 years as I recall!
Much less than science, this is not even good heresay!But - he accepts it as proof. Should be easy to prove evolution with a fossil or two.
What does that have to do with you never having read the bible. You reject millions of pieces of evidence for evolution and then believe biblical nonsense?
This is a theological discussion. Science proves you are full of nonsense. I can see why you are so angry. I would if my dearest beliefs were show to be nonsense.
Tell me where the bible says the earth is ROUND
I will happily put up a million dollars if you can introduce me to your god, how bout that?
Evolution is no longer in question.So why not post a link to the REAL ark, dude? If it is indeed authentic there should be plenty of links we can examine. And by the way, if you write a few hubs you may even gain a bit of credibility on these forums. You now sound and act like a troll, something we try to discourage here.
Perhaps you are sincere, but don't expect others to take you seriously since you are new here and have done nothing but try to prove biblical myths. Write a profile, write a hub, do something other than attempting to be taken seriously when we have no reason to do so.
At least post a link about the ark so we can debunk it and get it over with. I certainly hope you've visited it personally since you keep telling others they will believe if they go there. Certainly you took a few photos? Or is it the old "I wanted to take some pictures but the Turkish authorities wouldn't allow it" excuse?So - you don't know where the bible says the earth is round then.
Because you seemed certain this is what it said and this was a scientific fact.
How odd. I will help you out in that case - as you have obviously never read the bible. The bible does not say the earth is round. It says the earth is a circle. A circle is two dimensional.
Flat.
And as your scientific knowledge seems to be on a par with your biblical knowledge - the earth is actually an oblate spheroid.That is good. At least they prove the read the bible.
Fair enough.
See, if you had posted a link to the site in the beginning we could have dismissed it immediately as this site has been debunked by many different scholars, both christian and scientific.
And you were encouraging others to go visit an obvious scam which you BELIEVED was really the ark. And you are suggesting WE are the unintelligent posters on this forum?So we saved you from getting your butt kicked if someone on here were actually stupid enough to have believed your assertions and made the sojourn you asserted would make them believers in the ark.
Perhaps that is why you hide behind an alias when you make these moronic claims on these forums. You and Jack are only the latest of many, many, such claimants of "gods proof" who have posted these same stupid scammy sites which have been debunked numerous times.
For someone who doubts the intelligence of others you sure don't research your beliefs well at all. So far you have submitted two known frauds to back up your certainty. Got anything dealing with reality you can point to?
Dude, I'm on here to convert people so they don't go to Hell/to help out fellow Christians if they have questions. You're not.
Ah the passive aggressive threats of eternal torment come out at last. LOLOL Your religion is based on fear. I can almost smell your fear sweat through my computer screen.
Great! Then you must have accomplished great things in your life if you expect others to accept your opinion of the afterlife or interpretation of your god's message. How about telling us why we-or anyone else for that matter- should believe anything you opine about your beliefs.
Are you a biblical scholar, scientist, physicist, geologist, etc. or merely a fundie hoping someone will actually believe your nonsense? I would bet on the latter!
I think that most Christians who say they are Christians who don't seem to know much about it is because they may be new Christians and haven't had a lot of time to study and learn.
- Binaya.Ghimireposted 13 years ago0
So If I was born in a garage ,would that make me a car ?
That is the difference between Religion and Christianity.
If I was indoctrinated as some people like to toot about, then I would be a Presbyterian or a Mormon ,since that is how my parents were influenced.
But I chose Christianity,and I have friends in a few different churches and a good many who don't go to church.
One of my neighbours is an atheist, and we chat about things,comfortable enough to respect each others points of view on God/no god etc. We are courteous and help each other out from time to time.Told ya.
Right
So the existence of a god is merely theory also? Unless of course, you have proof there is a god. I would enjoy seeing proof of any god or gods. Can you prove there aren't hundreds of gods? Many from the time period of the biblical stories believed there was more than one god.
When MEGALOMANIA is on display in high definition while the capacity to see it is entirely missing, you have a fundie.
Fundies of all persuasions need to be put on an Island somewhere with lots of volcanoes so they can exercise their omnipotence trying to pray the volcanoes in to submission and leave the sane to get on with straightening out the mess they made.
There has been plenty of evidence supplied, in the form of religious belief as it relates to psychology, anthropology, history, language use, context, theology, feasibility, likelihood, peer reviewed scientific theories and more, but none of them have been debated, they are written off as wrong cos goddunnit.
Here is a bit of light reading, but as I have said before, if you wish to understand the subject well enough to argue it, simply view some of Lawrence Krauss.
http://godisimaginary.com/i11.htm
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