That does happen quite a lot I suppose but there is a difference. With chrisitianity for example, christianity kind of has set beliefs, ie jesus is the son of god, but with atheism, it simply denotes lack of belief. It doesnt say anything about what IS believed.
Christians work from the position of belief when entertaining most concepts and ideas. They will say, "I believe or I don't believe" or ask a question, "Do you believe in..." Almost everything is a belief and not an understanding.
I find that quite often. Theists often refer to beleifs even when indisputable evidence is available. For example, evolution is probably the most comon one. It saddens me when people say that it is a choice to believe in evolution.
Evolution often has a dual meaning. Evolving as a single specie and evolving from one specie to another. Either way it could be said it is part of God's plan. We are not all bible believers, like in Adam and Eve.
Brilliant point, Emile! Yes, I find myself doing that, too. But humility and curiosity are so much better. I have learned so much from people who had different viewpoints than my own. It gets a bit difficult with the other person is overly pushy or judgmental, but that's the challenge.
Seriously, though. Of course they don't share beliefs. Haven't you seen the posts where the Catholics and the Pentecostals throw down? And that Universal Unitarian gives them h*ll at every turn. You couldn't converse with two Christians whose beliefs are a mirror image of each other.
Just like all atheists aren't the same. Some are spiritual, some are pagan, some are pantheists.
No two people think the same. Whatever their beliefs, or lack of them. No matter what you might want to believe.
I agree entirely but since one is describing lack of belief and the other is describing a belief, surely the one that describes a belief (christianity) should be the same belief. I mean, it's the same book afterall with the same words.
I find it hilarious to sit back and watch 2 theists arguing.
"Why do christians insist on telling atheists that atheism is the beleif that there is no god while almost all atheists say it is the lack of belief in a god?"
Personally, I know the difference, but it seems that many atheists, especially on this and similar forums don't. They say one thing but act out the other.
It's not up to me that they are defacto believing there is no God, but their statements betray that sentiment. Not all, certainly, but even those that do act this way think that atheism is a lack of belief in a god. I suppose it comes from a lack of self-awareness, but that's just a guess.
Hi lady. Great Scripture there, including the surrounding passages and their meaning. What do you refer to in the "subsection", etc...? And would you elaborate on your meaning as to how the passage relates to the topic question? You've piqued my interest.
It's quite a concept isn't it? People defining who you are and your beliefs....and they don't even know you. It's shocking. Never happens the other way around......Ok....you caught me.....I'm being sarcastic again. Now who saw that coming?! Now the part I like is when Christians tell other Christians that they are in fact..... not Christians. Pointing fingers and name calling is fun isn't it? Every time you point your finger three more are pointing right back at ya. There's a gem of knowledge.
Outside of theology...They "believe" what is factual or what is proven with supporting evidence.
The word "Atheist" is a term associated to religious beliefs or lack there of. It can only really be applied to religious topics. And they have no beliefs in some or all aspects of the concept of religion or Gods
Nope...I was just wondering what they believe. The main crux in the whole matter (which I've seen discussed in many places on HP) is where we came from. Was it God? the Big Bang? Alien races populating the planet? So...if atheists don't believe in God, where do they believe we came from?
AHA...as I suspected....now wasn't that easy? You don't have to be ashamed.... So, you don't think that evolutionism and Christianity can exist hand in hand? Why, even the Catholic Church is sliding over to a altered view on the subject. Are you more wise then they?
Sorry, I tried to find a beginners guide to evolution, in order for you to get up to speed on the subject so that you could further read about the evolution of man. Of course, I couldn't find anything that would help you understand the basics that hasn't been presented to you already.
Abiogenesis is shaky science. A lot of biologists refute it. It's more of a best we can do for now hypothesis. IMO the asteroid theory holds more water at the moment. That could all change with a discovery that could happen tomorrow so who knows.
No am I in no means a fundamentalist. Just a man of science and reason. The inability to recreate on any level leads to doubt. There is no real smoking gun evidence. More like a generally accepted hypothosy that they continue to work towards proving. it's far from considered a fact. But like I said that could change with a discovery tomorrow and well be making little baby Protozoa before you know it.
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