What is wrong with the human heart (and not the physical organ) and does the religion of Atheism and other man-made solutions have the answers?
I think, based on posts by atheists, right here in these hub pages, they would say there is nothing wrong with the human heart, so there's no need to "fix" it!
Any Atheists who can pick up the newspaper or get the news on radio or tv and sees all teh violence that is not just committed by poor underprivileged people and says there's nothing wrong with the human heart needs to have their head examined. They are living in denial and denial doesn't address the issue, it just perpuates the problem.
Just get to the point. what? What is wrong with the human heart? Let me guess, not accepting Jesus...right?
Oh wiat excuse me, I mean being a Christian acting in the proper Christain behavior, and only studying the Bible and spreading the good word until we all become robots. The very same robots you say is the very reason we have free will.
I am not Athiest I am Chrisitan however I am very open minded about all religions.
God certainly would no want me to be judgemental and I have read the Qur'aan and have friends who are Muslim so with respect I am far from Athiest I certainly do believe in GOD:)
I'm sure we've been here before, but Atheism is not a religion.
I think dontthinkaboutit is of the opinion that of you say something often enough and loud enough, eventually people will start to think it is true. I see that a lot from certain quarters
Our hearts are an organ and they do not think, it is the mind process that can get us into trouble. Feelings and emotions come from the brain which stimulates everything else. I do not necessarily believe that Atheism and man-made solutions have all ofthe answers however we should all keep an open mind and learn from each other about this interesting process.
read my posts on Islam. you will find the solution for all your problems...
Then why are you hiding yours behind a large 77?
True, but if you left/right reversed the image the score wouldn't cover your 'heart'
You can see the big heart clearly in my profile page, I mean the 200 x 200 px
Although I doubt that is "her" heart
ATHEISM IS NOT A RELIGION!!
No, if it were, we wouldn't need both words. So, we have:
Atheism is Atheism
Science is Science
Religion is Religion
Now, that wasn't difficult, was it?
If you will permit me to say so, atheism is a conclusion ... reversible of course ... ego stands in the way of manipulating the reverse gear. With all due respects to all, this is just my opinion.
Well, you may ask, if this is a conclusion, how come it is reversible? It blasts the concept of conclusion into smithereens. Well in my opinion, that's the way atheism is designed to work.
No. You are completely wrong.
A-theism is a lack of belief in a god.
No conclusion involved. There just simply is no such thing as god. There is no conclusion to draw, because there is no evidence to reach a conclusion,
Your ego will not allow you to accept that. I understand. With no evidence, you have decided that there is a god. And therefore you think everyone else must think the same way. And it is their ego that will not allow them to do so
Designed to work? :lol
What on earth are you talking about? Oh, that's right, atheism is a belief and if atheists would just let go of their ego, they would see what an erroneous conclusion they have come to. This is how satan "designed" atheism?
Now, illogical belief in a non-existent god? There is a conclusion all right. Reversible of course. There is no evidence for a god, but because some one said I will go to hell if I don't believe, I will believe, therefore there is a god LOL
Still waiting for you to prove or dis-prove god.
Welcome back Zarm
Hey Mark, you are really serious aren't you? Cool it! I never said that everyone else should think the way I do! I never did!
I never spoke of hell or the devil.
I only referred to the fact that language is versatile and I was moving onwards to say that lawyers are able to harness this quality in language to twist a case in any direction they want.
It was you who suggested the exercise of proving the existence of GOD.
You need not identify my belief in GOD as a fault, as much as I do not associate any fault with you or any other.
I am not a priest or a sage. I am a mere participant in a discussion ...
And you know you are more than welcome by a poet :)nice and easy going-good job.
http://hubpages.com/hub/Reason a hub for you Mark
Finally, you work it out. How to leave links that will not be flagged as spam. Good for you.
Allow me to introduce you to the autonomic nervous system, one of the branches of the peripheral nervous system. The autonomic nervous system maintains homeostasis in your body, controlling heart rate, digestion etc.
And I would have thought an enlightened being such as yourself would have understood that, although these functions are usually not under your conscious control, it is possible to learn how to control them. From my limited understanding of Yoga, this is one of the things a Yogi can do on his path to enlightenment.
Finally, you work it out. How to leave links that will not be flagged as spam. Good for you.
This control is not important for enlightenment.
A story-a you man returns to his master after ten years of meditation and penance and says "now I can walk on water" The master says "you have wasted ten years"
Are we controlling the movement of this earth,sun, moon and millions of other stars as well.So many we dont know exist- yeah right The human is in full control
Mark-"From my limited understanding" -
finally you worked it out
Yes. Unlike you, I do not think I have complete understanding.
The versatility of language is the only thing that supports atheism.
And it seems that the versatility of language is the only thing that attempts to support a belief system propped up by a badly translated book
The right combination of words can either prove or disprove almost anything. The existence of language only blunts our logic.
OK, I challenge you to prove or disprove the existence of god. With words.
I think the better challenge would be to define God.
lol, maybe if we knew what it was, then maybe there would be a better chance at proving whether it exist or not. lol
I know what it is and it does not exist. You can dress it up all you like; add some stuff about christ consciousness, turn it round and say, well what I really meant was this that and the other; call it some other word.
Everyone knows what god means. All-powerful. Greater than you. In charge. Responsible. You know - god
The SODDIT defence.
And you are possitive that that is what God is or means? Can't say that I know that that is true. I heard too many different meanings. What is SODDIT defence?
Lol! First of all your mischievous smile makes me totally nervous!!!
Secondly, I would say that scientists have not found any evidence of the non-existence of GOD. Right throughout, scientists have been able to prove every theory that they have put forward, using mathematics and logical inference.
The track record of scientists itself is sufficient to establish their credibly and accept what they say as true. By the same token to accept what they don't say as untrue.
Quite apart from that, you believe in a GOD that you believe does not exist.
I believe in a GOD since I cannot find evidence of his non-existence!
I see the science track record quite differently - science keeps disproving itself all the time.
In fact, it is designed this way. Try to dig for Paraglider's posts on that matter, he explained it several times much better than I possibly can
Well, the various fields in science would stand on separate feet. I see what you mean. The fact remains that thanks to science and technology we are living a far more comfortable life than our predecessors did. How's that for credibility?
There may be instances in medical science where definite mathematical proof of any discovery cannot be established. This fact alone will create a requirement for continuous investigation.
Well ... I am deviating from the topic, am I not?
To save you the labour of digging http://hubpages.com/hub/Freedom-from-Belief is my hub on the nature of scientific and nonscientific knowledge. Thanks Misha!
I believe in no such god.
The track record of scientists? What you mean the scientist who's work is allowing you to communicate with me over the internet?
I believe in no such god.
Why can you not grasp the simple principal that not believing in something you find laughable - is not a belief?
I am quite prepared to accept the complete lack of evidence or proof of god as good enough for me.
Any time you are ready to prove or dis-prove god I will be waiting.
Any time you are prepared to back up your original statement in some way, I am all ears.
He believes in his "God" because he hasn't found any evidence not to yet there is evidence all around him. The trick I have learned to dealing with such people is to realize that no proof will suffice to turn them away from "God", which ironically is the same accusation they make towards atheists when they bust out historical arguments or try to show believers the patterns of deception present in organized religion.
If I literally believed in Santa Claus and turned it into a Multiple Out they couldn't disprove me either. Matter of fact I might just construct such an argument so that I can pull it out and humiliate these kinds of people when they start talking.
Well, Mark, the only statement I made was that language is versatile, I believe I can sort of prove that.
As for proving the existence of GOD, if I succeed in doing what millions have tried hard to, and failed, I would be star of the century! I cannot. No one can. That does not mean he does not exist either.
Likewise, if you can prove that he does not exist, you too will rise to fame. You cannot. No one can! That does not mean he does exists either.
No, you made several statements:
This makes no sense other than to show that you believe atheism is wrong. You then went on and said:
Which also makes no sense, unless you substitute the word "logic," for "belief." But you did state this and have not attempted to prove anything. You then stated:
Which I assume to mean you believe in everything that has not been dis-proven. Since it is a logical impossibility to prove the non-existence of something that does not exist?
So it seems to me, the only thing that supports your belief is the versatility of language........
Who is god?
He, she and it is god. God is, has, was, will.
Where is god?
Everywhere is god, nowhere is god.
What sort of a thing is god?
Everything is god.
God is love, god is the light.
When does god come?
When the madness stops, when death becomes.
How do I see god?
With your eyes closed and with your eyes open.
What have I to do with god?
You are his creation, you are a part of him.
When do I see, meet god?
Whenever you really decide to,
When you want nothing.
If the delightful thing about God were whatever ya make it, then no definitive concept of God would be helpful.
To some god means all and everything, the whole. The whole can be considered equal to the part, in that the part is equally necessary to the whole.
Yet you ask this question in your poem:
And I was just trying to help, by explaining that it is your autonomic nervous system
The first step in Yoga is learning mastery of your body. Until you can do this, you are at the whim of your body and subsequently ego. It is the first step in controlling the rest and allowing the internal dialog to be quieted.
autonomic nervous system--note the word autonomic-.happens by itself.
Yes I agree with you yoga does require control of the body and mind for allowing the internal dialogue.But more than controlling any part of your body it requires one pointed concentration.Absolute or perfect concentration
Am I really in control? I say NO.
So what is controlling everything besides me?
The same force or entity or power controls.
I have never been in control.
At the same time I must have been in control.
Cryptic, yet at the same time meaningless and lacking in inner significance
Autonomic means "Involuntarily," or "spontaneously." Not "happens by itself."
And it is possible to override this. Which means you have power over this "force or entity."
Autonomic =Involuntarily =happens by itself=same thing=different words.
You are the force or enity. or god or cosmos or holy spirt or great spirit
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