do u believe jews are chosen people?

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   pisean282311posted 12 years ago

   Do u believe that jews are chosen people as most jews claim?

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      Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hitler sure did not think so, his ad said :God is with US:
      
      Jew like some Gays, Gun and God, the new World, US Order

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         pisean282311posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         @castle hmmmm....thats why i asked u and not hitler!!!!!!!!!

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      SirDentposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes.

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         pisean282311posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         @sirdent ok...

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      getitriteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      What kind of God would have chosen people?  The Jewish religion is outright absurd to suggest such flagrant and prejudicial nonsense.

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         livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Sorry that you've believed such anti-Semitic nonsense.
         
         "Chosenness" has always been understood in Judaism as the "yoke of the Covenant" or a mode of behavior incumbent on Jews but not anyone else.

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            getitriteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            That's why your beliefs are so divisive.  What a nonsensical concept.

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               wavegirl22posted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I love when people are so blatant as you have just shown a classic example in the pot calling the kettle black.
               
               If you ever have truly read any of livelonger's posts he is exactly the opposite of divisive.

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                  livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Thank you, wavegirl22. Getitrite has figured everything out, though; who are we to correct him about our own religion?

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                  getitriteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  I did not say he was divisive, I said his ridiculous beliefs were.  Apparently, you are so angry that you didn't take the time to comprehend.
                  
                  Religious beliefs, as such, are divisive.

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                     livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Fortunately, we agree on everything else, so if only religion were to vanish...

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                     livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     You don't know what my beliefs are, so kindly refrain from speaking on my behalf.

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      kessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      God chooses a man as the man chooses himself...
      Thus the jews are chosen god simply because the jews choose to be the chosen people....
      
      But chosen for what?
      
      Because they have not understood that God is not the respector of person, that misunderstanding cause them to be chosen to carry the gospel of death to all people.
      
      They have decreased but their teachings has increased through the christians who perpetuate the doctrine of the antichrist .
      
      But Just as God would, from evil cometh good...so we saw the Christ first coming from within the Jews, and the christians have already paved the way for Christ's return....
      
      But he did not return unto them.

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         jacharlessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I could not have said it better, Kester.
         Many do not understand the 'burden' they themselves chose to carry.
         It was, and for most people still is, a very heavy burden.
         This is why, when liberty came, the elite rejected it and millions of others accepted it; because they had convinced themselves they were chosen to carry on the tradition of sin and death. I say tradition, in every sense of the word...
         
         James

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      Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I hold no belief that Jews are chosen people.
      
      There's absolutely no reason to think anyone is a chosen individual. To do so, would lead to "superiority" and NO ONE is better than anyone else.

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   AfricaResourceposted 12 years ago

   I think they are, the bible makes that very clear!

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      Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Oddly enough I stay close to my Jewish friends, for in case I am wrong, my friends plan is to open up the sky and pull me up to the heavens

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         livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Except in Judaism we believe that everyone ends up in the same place, regardless of what your religious inclinations (or lack thereof) are.

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            Jeramiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I agree with You on this issue!
            
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            What is the OP referring to when he says "Chosen"
            
              We might pour a box of raisins into a bowl and pick one up between our fingers then eat it.
              We chose that one.
              There wasn't anything in particular special about that one and yet we "Chose" that one to eat.
            
               My understanding is that God Chose this particular group of people in much the same manner. He chose them to bestow his blessings upon as an example for the rest of humanity.
                Had these people not fallen out of covenant, Humanity would have learned a different lesson.
                But sense they did fall out of covenant we have learned many different lessons.
                In many instances in life, being the one "Chosen" is not such a good thing.
            
              From those who are given much, much is expected.
            
              To be chosen to be made an example of is not necessarily a good thing.
            
              Everything has at least two meanings; depending upon our perspective.

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               wavegirl22posted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Eloquently said!
               
               
               
               Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. Try reading what Jerami said and maybe you will coming to some interesting way to think.

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                  Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  I like your quote, very profound.

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               pisean282311posted 12 years agoin reply to this

               nice comment

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   ericmoralesposted 12 years ago

   Yes and No. I don't think God is prejudice your not going to only get into Heaven if your a Jew and your not going to get into Heaven only if your a Christian. The Bible says its believing in Jesus that gets people into Heaven. The Jewish religion obviously doesn't believe that. God did choose them because of Abraham's faith in Jehovah. Abraham ethnically wasn't a Jew. However further precedence over other people was predicated on the acceptance and faith in the coming Messiah.
   
   This question is interesting since my Grandparents have Jewish ancestors from Germany but became Methodist - then Baptist and are now Pentecostal. I don't think we fall in the chosen category though.

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   jacharlessposted 12 years ago

   Chosen?
   That is a pretty hefty word to throw out.
   It suggests singling out, segregation, special treatment and screams partiality.
   
   James.

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      getitriteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks James.  I thought it was just who was "anti-Semitic"

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      livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      It certainly can be.
      
      You can also read Torah and realize it means something different in the context of Judaism.

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         jacharlessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Certainly, within the history or within the culture/tradition, it means something entirely different. But, again, that could apply to any and all other cultures/traditions.
         
         However, among the many chosen, I do find the Hebrews less of Ego and more -if the word applies- chivalrous and dutiful, to the carrying of the torch, versus more ego driven sand-rats, carrying biochemical backpacks.
         
         James

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   Disappearingheadposted 12 years ago

   Yes, they were to be the priests to the nations. Unfortunately for much of their history they excluded the Gentiles from coming to God.

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      livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Not sure what you mean by this. Judaism is the approach Jews use, and Jews do not claim it's a universal ethos/behavior that should be adopted by everyone. At the same time, it's always been possible to convert to Judaism, although sometimes Christian and Muslim rulers have forbidden it.

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   davidkalugeposted 12 years ago

   It is funny why people do not understand why it was written that way. 1st who owns the scripture in which it was written that Jews are the chosen people? Ans: Jews. so what do you expect? The point is that people had/have various Gods then, its just recently that the teachings started to change in an effort to spread Christainty, that we have one God. Men of old thought differently. From my own personal Experience, my ancestors and us are the chosen people by God, their God, so we are all chosen people.

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      pisean282311posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      yup....quiet right...

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         Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Go beyond that, we are all god

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   wavegirl22posted 12 years ago

   Some just need to attack others beliefs and intentions.
   
   Once again some are so busy calling every kettle black that they need to point the finger away from themselves over and over again to make their point, no matter what that point is. Livelonger's beliefs are ridiculous and Im so angry. Both of those statements could not be farther from the truth!

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      janesixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Come on. You're angry? This is just an internet forum. Where anyone can express thier ridiculous beliefs, including you.

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         wavegirl22posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         did that make you feel better saying that?

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            janesixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Did it make you feel better to call livelonger's beliefs ridiculous?

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         janesixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I totally misinterpreted your post. I apologize.

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