Why Argue?
Because they need to defend an irrational belief. It used to be considered "bad form," to point out that your religious beliefs are nonsense. Now that we have moved on as a society - if you say anything about the majik you believe in - there is likely to be some one telling you it is nonsense - especially online, although increasingly so in the "real world," also..
The cognitive dissonance is already strong inside of you and having an external focus (argumentative non-believer) gives you something to hang your hat on. Your religion has been completely misunderstood and it focuses on the external rather than the internal struggle. Most believers mistakenly think non believers are the problem that needs dealing with/converting/fighting with because they are agents of Stan.
This is why your religion causes so many fights. Always has done, always will do.
Your external actions tell me you have not made the internal journey. Your outside reflects nothing I would want a part of. At least you admit YOU are the reason for the conflicts.
I don't need salvation - sorry. Once you actually mature - you may understand why. But that means doing some work - unlikely - as you have taken the blue placebo and sed the majik words.
No doubt Stan is very happy with you.
The question was targeted at religious believers. Jesshubpages is an aggressive religionist who argues with non believers.
I am trying to prove that your religion causes conflict - and I am trying to prove it to you guys.
Apparently it is all my fault for not accepting the Truth you have for me though.Oh - I get told a lot that it is my fault for not accepting the Gift of Salvation/Word of God/Whatever Self Righteous BS, and if I would just shut up or accept what they tell me - there would not be any conflict.
Fact is - they stop evangelizing, I have nothing to talk to.
I was asking the question to Jesshubpages. But - you are on a road that will lead to frustration and despair here. There used to be quite a lot of "low key" believers to discuss irrational beliefs with, but they mostly get run off by the aggressive believers.
Good luck.
So you are saying I will get run off by the aggressive believers?
I am very compassionate in what I believe in, I just convey it differently. I am not forceful in my presentation of my beliefs.You may not. All I can say is that most of the "compassionate" believers get run off and certainly get a hard time.
I mean - you posted biblical evidence that believers should not get involved in non-productive arguments.
Just a quick stroll through these forums will show you how many believers are not fans of that scripture. And "turning the other cheek" means slapping right back.
This is why your religion causes so many fights. Christianity is a "do as I say, not as I do," sort of belief system.......
Just as a matter of interest - how do you compassionately present this:
"But for the cowardly and UNBELIEVING and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
The compassionate part is that any one of these people could ask for forgiveness AND not get what they deserve.
Mr. K, me very confused. Why do you need to prove that someone's religion causes conflict? What's going on in your life that you 'need' to do this?
It's like you're on the hunt or sumpfin...whatsupwitdat?
Me just curious..............
Hope that makes you feel better.
Both sides do it for entertainment.
I agree with most you have said, and thank you for the feedback, as far as wondering if I am acting better than others, I apologize if that is the idea you are perceiving, that is in no way what I am trying to convey. So I apologize if that is what you thought.
Odd - if no one makes a claim - there is nothing to argue about. Ya think there would be any arguments without the claims of majik that you make?
No Druids here.
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