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   nonto21posted 13 years ago

   When atheists talk about religion, they aren't talking about the people, just the belief. If you feel it's personal attack and you don't like it, don't respond. Hell, don't read it. If it's offensive to begin with, any explanations you ask for, are probably only going to offend you further.
   
   Sorry if I've been offensive.
   
   I don't want to hurt any personal feelings.
   
   My contention was harmless, if only to me.

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      jah1zposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I don't know about others but, just know, I felt nothing offended by you. In fact, welcomed it. It's ammunition for the spirits, to give me insight ----- someone mentioned this as a food-chain. Was that you? I see now.

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         nonto21posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         It was me. I did mention the food chain, only to explain the principal of evolution. I can't say I actually know anything about it, just an example of what I was taught in school. Not that anything a public school teaches is useful.

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            Friendlywordposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            "Not that anything a public school teaches is useful."
            
            The reason, nothing that is taught in public schools is useful, is because of the bad management of the public school system.  Republican State and City Operatives are stealing public School funds for private schools and leaving the public school system and the children in them starving to death.
            
            In the mean time; Charter Schools are getting these stolen funds from the public School system where its being used to buy BMWs and fake test scores.  Five years from now; the school closes, a big fake scandal is manufactured, the Republican Crooks ride off into the sunset(in their BMWs and Stolen Public School Funds.)  So much for privitization of public Education.  Vote Democratic and Put honest people back in charge of running the Nations Public Schools so our children can get a useful education again.
            
            Yours Truly,
            Public School Student
            Friendlyword

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      pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      When on feels insulted usually the seeds of those feelings can be found within.

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         nonto21posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         which means to them, it's an unavoidable truth or that deep down, they agree.
         
         Am I right?

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            DoubleScorpionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I would say that they have doubts, but don't want to admit to them. Many people take offense when they find themselves in a spot where their argument doesn't hold water and they are at a loss for a rebuttal.
            
            Sometimes the correct answer is just saying that you don't know for sure, but are willing to follow your path (right or wrong) based on faith until something leads you differently and let the card lie where they may.

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               pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               That's the gist of it yes. Thanks for your interpretation.

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               MelissaBarrettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Or...  The speaker was being offensive .  Sometimes there's a fine line between personal insults and debating ideas.  That line can be easily jumped by the tone of the poster.
               
               If it was... oh say me... that was "offended" by someone pointing out a flaw in my personal belief then it is most likely the attitude of the speaker I have a problem with rather than the actual content of their argument.
               
               For me personally thinking that my irritation comes from some sort of doubt is laughable and arm-chair psychiatry at best.
               
               Sometimes you really don't need to analyze something too far.  If you irritate someone it might just be because you are irritating.

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                  nonto21posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Then why are you still irritated? If your faith hasn't been shaken or I haven't really bothered you, then why are you still on about it? A day later?

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                     MelissaBarrettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Because YOU irritate me.  You can do nothing to my faith... largely because you don't have any clue what you are talking about when it comes to my faith.  Your lack of knowledge about any other ideas of Christianity other than your own limited experience is appalling... yet you keep going.
                     
                     The idea that YOU could shake my faith is also vaguely egotistical.  You ain't got that kinda pull.

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                        nonto21posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Then why are you irritated?
                        
                        If I can't shake your fortitude or faith, why are you still attacking me?
                        
                        I never made any mention of knowing anything.
                        
                        If you want to continue going on the offensive, toward me in particular, be ready to get booted.
                        
                        It's in the forum rules, I'd suggest you adhere to them.

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                           MelissaBarrettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           I'm irritated because you irritated me.  It's a personality thing.
                           
                           I'm not attacking you... just stating an opinion.  You seem to think that if someone finds you annoying that there is something wrong with THEM.  I was just pointing out the obvious other alternative.
                           
                           The report button is on the bottom right of my posts.  Have fun with that.  Betcha you get banned for false reports before I get banned for "going on the offensive"
                           
                           And by the way... if you think you have "shaken my faith" then maybe you could let me know exactly what opinion might have done that and what part of my faith that your brilliant diatribes might have effected.

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                              nonto21posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              You keep seeking me out. I appologized to you specifically.
                              
                              Tell me who's on the offensive again?

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                                 MelissaBarrettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                 I wasn't seeking you out dear... Please don't give yourself that much credit.  I was responding to a post in a thread you started.  That's kinda how this kinda forum thing works.
                                 
                                 If you think I'm on the offensive then that's your own opinion.  I'm just telling you what I think. I do that.  You really aren't unique in being someone I've told what I thought in various threads.

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                                    nonto21posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                    Then what are you doing in this thread?
                                    
                                    Why do you keep replying to my posts?
                                    
                                    If there's no attack intended, why say how annoyed I make you?
                                    
                                    If you say "I find you annoying", then yes, you are attacking me.

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                                       MelissaBarrettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                       I'm responding to the thread you started.  Again... you don't get to choose who responds to your threads.  People that disagree with you are allowed to respond as well.
                                       
                                       I am replying to your posts because I feel like it.  See above.
                                       
                                       Err... because you stated earlier in the thread that if someone is insulted by your posts then it is because "which means to them, it's an unavoidable truth or that deep down, they agree.
                                       
                                       Am I right?"
                                       
                                       I am answering your question.  No... you have given me no "unavoidable truths" or anything I agree with that I didn't before.  Yet your post still irritate me.  I was giving my explanation of that... you asked if you were right.  You aren't.
                                       
                                       Saying I find you annoying is not a personal attack.  It is an opinion which in this case relates directly to statements made in this thread.  You asked why someone would feel insulted then made the decision that it was because your "facts" were shaking their faith or somesuch.  I was merely telling you why I personally felt irritated by you.  Which is a direct and appropriate response to your question.
                                       
                                       If you wouldn't have made the assumption that people who felt irritated by your posts felt that way for a specific reason I would have felt no need to correct you.

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                                          nonto21posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                          Which is fine.
                                          
                                          I'd never intended to illicit an aggravated response.
                                          
                                          So in turn, I was merely stating an opinion.
                                          
                                          But then again, I did appologize and I did change my tone.
                                          
                                          Do I not get a shred of recognition for that? No.
                                          
                                          I just get angry or explicit replies. So, they could be seen, by me, as an attack.
                                          
                                          Do you see where I'm headed with this?

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                                             MelissaBarrettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                             I care little about your apology when your posts afterwards continued in the same vein.  You continued to post threats that I view as antagonistic.  If you want to start a fight don't stand there looking confused when you get one.
                                             
                                             My replies aren't angry and they sure aren't explicit.  If you see disagreement and challenges to your ideas as an attack then hit that little report button until your finger gets sore.  I see where you are headed with this and I'm telling you to have at it.
                                             
                                             I have been banned for 24 hours for personal attacks twice before.  Trust me you will know one of my personal attacks when you see it.  Right now I'm disagreeing with your posts.  Me telling you that your assumptions are wrong is unlikely to be considered a personal attack.  You open a thread and someone disagrees with you and you don't like it then that's just tough cookies.

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                                                nonto21posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                                It's not the post, it's the context.
                                                
                                                I never took an aggressive tone, not toward a general person.
                                                
                                                I only asked that you prove your stance.
                                                
                                                How am I the bad guy then?
                                                
                                                I'm done here...

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                                                   MelissaBarrettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                                   What would you like me to prove my stance on dear?
                                                   
                                                   Oh... you're done.  Thank heavens.

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                                             Friendlywordposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                             I don't know what your intentions were when you wrote this forum.  I misread what you were trying to say from the beginning, and I disliked you for one line you wrote, that was completely innocent. I hope we get to know each other better on the forums.

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                           Friendlywordposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           So new people are up on hubpages rules and they think they can get around them and be cute little creepy stalker all they want to because they know rules.  People that itimidate others usually slip up because they think they're smart. But if you're twisted and crazy it always slips you up in the end. Do you scare little children too?

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                              nonto21posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              Only on Halloween.
                              
                              And yes, I'm absolutely crazy.
                              
                              When I walk out the door in the morning, I know I'm crazy.
                              
                              It's the other crazies that deny their craziness.
                              
                              Are you in denial?

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