What are your thoughts on Dr. Walter Palmer and other "hunters" who kill endange

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  1. ChristinS profile image44
    ChristinSposted 3 years ago

    What are your thoughts on Dr. Walter Palmer and other "hunters" who kill endangered animals?

    If you aren't familiar with the story, this dentist paid $50,000 to "hunt" and kill an endangered lion.  Two of his companions lured the animal out of a protected area where this "man" shot the lion with a bow.  It didn't die, it took them 40 hours to find and kill it with a rifle.  He posed proudly with his one of many conquests as he's done this several times.  What is it with certain people who feel the need to kill endangered animals? My personal thought - sociopath/narcissist  Original Story: http://goo.gl/FDXlvl

  2. gmwilliams profile image83
    gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago

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    This is what is called evil.  It is beyond evil, it is demonic.  There are people who have very low consciousness level.  They are not evolved people at all but acting upon their lowest, most basest and primitive nature.  These people are have no conscience and remorse.  They are bloodthirsty barbarians of the lowest order.

    1. ChristinS profile image44
      ChristinSposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      He's definitely of the lowest common denominator.  No remorse, doesn't consider how his actions affect the whole pride of cats - shameful.

  3. Chantelle Porter profile image96
    Chantelle Porterposted 3 years ago

    I really don't understand what this guy could possibly be proud of. There is no honor or skill in what he has done. Complete jerk. I think some sort of penalty, not monetary, should be exacted for his actions.

    1. Patty Inglish, MS profile image92
      Patty Inglish, MSposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      He did not kill for food and the lion was 13 years old, so put the unethical hunter in prison for 13 years and feed him only water and lion meat from lions who die of old age.

    2. ChristinS profile image44
      ChristinSposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      There's an idea Patty wink I agree no honor in "hunting" a lion that was lured from a protected area.  It wasn't even a clean kill that animal suffered for 40 hours.  Shameful.

  4. fpherj48 profile image78
    fpherj48posted 3 years ago

    What this idiot needs is a little less money that he can throw around on insanity such as trapping, wounding & chasing down an endangered species..........and a little more humanity and compassion.

    I have an idea.....let's fence him in with 4 hungry LIONS.....see how much fun he thinks that is!!

    1. ChristinS profile image44
      ChristinSposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I can see that temptation.. especially knowing his actions will now end up in the death of all of his cubs by the new alpha male.  People don't consider the domino effect of their stupid choices.  He has no remorse, he needs jail not fines.

  5. Aime F profile image83
    Aime Fposted 3 years ago

    Absolutley awful. I hope his business folds and he finds himself needing that $55,000 to keep himself afloat. He deserves every bit of bad publicity and karma.

    There's no need for this stuff. It's pointless, mindless killing and the only thing anyone gets from it is a stroke of this guy's unhealthy and undeserved ego.

    1. ChristinS profile image44
      ChristinSposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I've heard his business closed, which is just in some ways, but probably very hard for those who worked there.  That's who I feel sorry for in all this, the innocent bystanders.  It is indeed pointless and cruel.

  6. chef-de-jour profile image100
    chef-de-jourposted 3 years ago

    I feel sorry for this sick man, his ego has got the better of him and lured him into believing he's some kind of hero hunter from the 1930s, when shooting wild beasts was nothing more than trophy seeking, part of the social circle of ignorant colonialists.

    Oh yes, he is a great hunter in his own mind. Just look at the smile in that sickening photograph.

    In truth he is nothing more than a poor self-deluded dollar head. But he's not alone, there are millions more like him, male, macho men who think with their *&^%$ and don't give a damn about anything but themselves. Sad.

    1. ChristinS profile image44
      ChristinSposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      It is sad, but he's been caught before and shows absolutely no remorse, so I have not an iota of pity for this "man".

  7. My Bell profile image97
    My Bellposted 3 years ago

    I think trophy hunting period is awful and I question the character of anyone that participates in this type of hunting. I hope that this man is prosecuted and spends many years in prison both in Zimbabwe and the U.S. He has been convicted already for poaching a black bear so there is a pattern here for sure.

    1. ChristinS profile image44
      ChristinSposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Since fines have not deterred him in the past and he is not accepting accountability; I think jail time is indeed warranted.

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      TheBizWhizposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      http://news.yahoo.com/hunter-cecil-lion … 29760.html
      Just a little fact update. Tracking device was not destroyed, but was removed and left at site.  All permits legal from the government. only guilty n court of opinion

    3. ChristinS profile image44
      ChristinSposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      There was absolutely a whole lot wrong with what this man did. You think maiming an animal and letting it wander for 40 hours is ok so this selfish ass can have a trophy? Whatever we can agree to disagree this guy deserves his karma.

    4. profile image0
      TheBizWhizposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Most of the time when people hunt animals, it does not go down 1st shot, so u can't really say he is evil w/out condemning all hunters. Even ur family members who hunt.

    5. Borsia profile image43
      Borsiaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      BW; no he didn't have the permits. They lured the lion off of a reserve, which is illegal.
      The Zmb government is asking for extradition on criminal charges.
      I for one hope it is granted.

    6. ChristinS profile image44
      ChristinSposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I can't believe some people are ok with trophy hunts.  No respect for life or the planet we live on.  If you hunt for food I can tolerate it, but for trophies? Nope I've not an iota of respect for trophy hunters not one.

    7. profile image0
      TheBizWhizposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      never said was ok w/ trophy hunting. Actually said don't agree w/ it personally. I just am not hypocritical enough 2 judge him. fact is we all do more detrimental things 2 animals on a daily basis but no one cares because they don't have a cute name

  8. Stacie L profile image88
    Stacie Lposted 3 years ago

    The rich live by a different set of rules than the rest of society. Money has always bought influence, access, and privilege so why is this a shock? 
    Once it became known to the public, then the true horror of this crime was exposed. Shooting for sport should be eliminated; just out of necessity.  He wasn't hungry nor was he helping anyone one else attain food .
    Waiting for an old lion to come within shooting range so he could claim his prize really shows the depravity of this individual and the ones who helped him.

    1. ChristinS profile image44
      ChristinSposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      It's not a shock sadly, but it is disgusting and I hope the attention on this case will make trophy hunting of protected & endangered animals illegal. These "hunters" claim they support conservation - it's laughable.

  9. adagio4639 profile image83
    adagio4639posted 3 years ago

    I heard about this. Great White Hunter. Wow! I think this dickhead skinned the lion, cut it's head off, and now he has his trophy, The need to kill. Not to survive, Not for food. For a friggin trophy? I would love to toss this guy into the wild without a gun around dinner time for the Lions. I'd pay to watch that,.

    1. ChristinS profile image44
      ChristinSposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      The sad thing is, this "mans" actions will also lead to the death of Cecil's cubs too - so it wasn't just one life mercilessly taken for ego, it was many.  Sad.

  10. profile image0
    TheBizWhizposted 3 years ago

    While I am a hunter, I only hunt animals I eat and have no desire to do it strictly for the trophy (elephants, giraffes, lions, etc).
    On the other hand, I have no problem with people hunting trophies as long as it is not an endangered animal, which lions are not; https://www.worldwildlife.org/species/d … ion_status

    From my understanding, the lion killed was at the age that most lions die anyway. I can't believe there are some evil people here that think this man should die for this. They should take a long look in the mirror and get their priorities straight.

    1. ChristinS profile image44
      ChristinSposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I can't believe there are people who stand up for a man who killed a protected animal and tried to destroy the evidence. He doesn't deserve to die, but I hope this arrogant ass is ruined financially so he can't afford more "trophies".

    2. profile image0
      TheBizWhizposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      So now he is "protected" and not "endangered"? Funny how that changed when facts r brought 2 light. They usually have that effect.
      Btw, I am not standing up for him. I am just not jumping on the public opinion bandwagon

    3. ChristinS profile image44
      ChristinSposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      This cat was protected - he was on a preserve with a collar that is common knowledge.  In many other areas lions are indeed endangered.  Semantics... whatever.

    4. profile image0
      TheBizWhizposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      He lived n a protected area. That doesn't mean he was specifically protected. He was killed outside of that area. He was no longer protected. Collars cannot b seen until after the kill. Collar doesn't mean protected, only tracked. Semantics?no facts

    5. ChristinS profile image44
      ChristinSposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Wow, defend this narcissistic ass all you want, he's been caught poaching before. They lured the cat out of the park - he maimed the animal and you're defending him.  That speaks volumes.... wow.

    6. profile image0
      TheBizWhizposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Again, not defending. If he did anything illegal n this hunt he should b punished, but no evidence of that has been shown 2 me. He did poach b4, was caught & punished. What I don't understand is why don't people get this worked up over livestock

    7. Aime F profile image83
      Aime Fposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      How can anyone not have a problem with someone killing an animal for no reason other than mounting its head on a wall? Animals are not trophies and to think of them as such is just sick.

    8. profile image0
      TheBizWhizposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Trophy hunting doesn't bother most people because they know it contributes to overall conservation. What some of u don't realize is that development is the biggest killer of animals now days, not legal hunting.

    9. ChristinS profile image44
      ChristinSposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, because the best way to conserve something is to kill it and mount it on your wall *eyeroll* there are numerous other ways to practice conservation, that's just an excuse hunters make because they enjoy killing things for "fun".

    10. Aime F profile image83
      Aime Fposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      My understanding is that a lot of the money they pay to kill the animal goes to conservation, is that right? If they were so concerned about conservation couldn't they just donate, you know, without killing the animal?

    11. ChristinS profile image44
      ChristinSposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      allegedly, but they don't just donate because they aren't in it for the conservation, they're in it because they take pleasure in killing - they just spin it with the whole conservation line of BS.

    12. profile image0
      TheBizWhizposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Aime, some is given w/out directly killing an animal. Hunting & fishing licenses go to conserve the wildlife, yet is not directly paid for killing. I guess in theory some could give money as a donation, but in reality most would not. Do you?

  11. ChristinS profile image44
    ChristinSposted 3 years ago

    I have no problem with those who hunt to feed their families.  I grew up with a dad (and others around us) who hunted and ate the meat - that's fine.  Even they have problems with this - trophy hunting is ridiculous.  Life is valuable and we should respect it. 

    This "man child", for his own selfish desires, chose to "hunt" this animal by having his guides lure it out of a protected area.  He's such a bad hunter, he couldn't even get a kill shot, which resulted in this poor creature suffering for 40 hours.  Then he used a gun to kill it, skin it and take his head for his own "glory". 

    This "man" has done this several times and has been caught poaching here.  He is not remorseful in the least and is whining that his business is suffering and blaming his guides claiming he didn't know the "hunt" was illegal - BS.  You don't pay 50,000 for a legal hunt and they tried to destroy the lion's collar.

    He deserves no consideration, no mercy, no pity.  He's a neanderthal without a conscience and gives legit hunters/hunting a bad name.

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      TheBizWhizposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      (2 finish my statement from above) why don't people get this worked up over livestock that live their entire lives suffering. Its ok because they r not as beautiful as a lion?? Bunch of hypocrites

    2. ChristinS profile image44
      ChristinSposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I don't eat livestock either, but I agree with you on this point. I wish people were more inclined to love and respect all animals and question where their meat comes from. I love cows - they're smart and sweet. I hate trophy hunting period.

  12. FatFreddysCat profile image99
    FatFreddysCatposted 3 years ago

    Over privileged white guy with too much free time,  traveling halfway around the world to overcompensate for his small wiener... a Viagara prescription would've been a heck of a lot cheaper, Doc.

    1. ChristinS profile image44
      ChristinSposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Absolutely.

  13. profile image0
    PeterStipposted 3 years ago

    I think the only reason for killing an animal is when you want to eat that animal. If an animal is endangered or not is irrelevant. You kill a living being.  Human beings aren't endangered why not kill them!
    The strange thing is that we give human beings more rights then animals, why?
    No, killing an animal for fun should be punished. May it be a shark, a lion or a raven.
    The person who kills for fun has apparently no respect for life and lacks empathy, two characteristics which are necessary to make social and moral desicions.  I definatly wouldn't like to be around such a person.

    1. profile image0
      TheBizWhizposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Do you think we should also not have pets? We don't agree with humans being kept as slaves, yet we keep dogs, cats, birds, and fish hostage without their consent. If I did that to a human, they would consider it kidnapping.

    2. profile image0
      PeterStipposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      You can not compare all pets with slaves. Some are treated well, some are treated badly. In a mariage lots of women have no rights either. But this is a different topic.

    3. profile image0
      TheBizWhizposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Hey, u r the 1 that wanted 2 compare humans 2 animals, so u can't have it both ways. Also, u say it is ok to have pets as long as they r treated ok. Is it ok 2 keep a human against their will as long as they r treated well?

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