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   epsonok0posted 10 years ago

   Do you think that it is smart from a ratings and earnings stand point to move a hub to an offsite archive or blog to preserve it after it reaches 0 views for more than a week?
   Please read the whole question so that there is no confusion.
   Simple version: 1 Your hub hits 0 views for 1 week or more.
                            2 You have work into the hub and dont want it gone.
                            3 You move it to your offsite blog to preserve it.
                            4 You delete it from HubPages so that it does not drag down your other work.
   I would like if I got a good amount of discussion on this so do not be shy about your opinion on this.
   I would like if I got a good amount of discussion here so there is a broad and complete range of opinions.

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      psycheskinnerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I just ever hub so it at least gets enough traffic to be featured. There was only one hub that I moved off sitr

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      moonlakeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I would unpublish and work on it later. I have done that when I just don't have time to fool with it. At least it is still here but not seen by anyone but you.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Just because a Hub has had no views for a few days means nothing.  How do you know it won't do better next week, or next month? 
      
      When you publish a new Hub, it will get some early traffic, then it will go into the doldrums for a while, until the search engines decide whether it's good enough to include in their results.  If you unpublish or delete your Hub during that time, you've guaranteed it will never have a chance to reach its potential. 
      
      You've been here six months, so I'm guessing many of your Hubs are in that "doldrum" phase.  Hubs can take weeks or months to build their traffic, so don't be too quick to make judgments.

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         WryLiltposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Agreed. This hub didn't get its first comment for 6 months and was barely getting traffic either... then it took off and now averages ~1000 views a day.
         
         Sure, not all hubs will do this, but do you want to miss the one that will?
         
         

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            Susana Sposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            So true. I've had a lot of hubs do this too.

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            Mark Ewbieposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            I have had several like that except the graph is the other way around.  It begins quite high (up to ten views per day - fantastic) and then vanishes.

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   relacheposted 10 years ago

   Why not just unpublish it and save yourself several annoying steps?

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      epsonok0posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Oh come on! You dont have hubs that do bad, but that you spent some time on? No one wants to loose a hub they took a while to write. And no one is so god like they write hubs lightning fast and could just click and destroy at there leisure.

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         relacheposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Unpublishing a Hub saves it right here on this site, but takes it out of public view,  then it can be worked on all you want.  Then you can publish it again.
         
         I've done it lots of times.  It works really well, and is a great way to not lose backlinks and URLs when it comes time to totally overhaul an older Hub.
         
         Why do you think I was telling you to get rid of the hub entirely/permanently/forever?

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            epsonok0posted 10 years agoin reply to this

            um my best answer.... My coffee was still brewing in the kitchen. Seriously, basic math makes little sense to me before my first cup of java. I am also a bit of a smart (alternative name for a donkey) when I first wake up. A fact that I now see after getting off of work and seeing this mornings line of comments. Basically I think that unpublished a hub still has an affect on your rankings and scores I have had unpublished hubs advertised elsewhere that were being viewed. LOL so, since my blog that I do not yet share is a dumping ground that I am not concerned with the views on I think moving it there can help this situation. If I re work it I can always bring it back as a revised concept.

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               relacheposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Based on years of experience and several hundred Hubs, I disagree with that belief.  Utterly.
               
               And, I'd like to add that the only views an unpublished Hub is going to get are your own.

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   Mark Ewbieposted 10 years ago

   I have deleted 200 pages from here as they have been unpublished.  The vast majority I didn't move anywhere - I was bored with them, they were no use.
   
   A professional writer can write many articles per day on any subject.  I am not saying I am professional at all but after three years of writing - a few hundred words here and there doesn't take too long.
   
   If a page is getting no traffic - search or social - and it doesn't mean anything much - then I would just get rid of it.  It is just a drag on your attention.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Wise words!  It's taken me a long time to get to that point of view, I must say.  I now realize how silly it is to be attached to old articles.
      
      The light dawned for me when Helium announced it was moving to a new setup, and that as a result, some articles would be deleted.  I rushed back to the site and got busy, copying and pasting the articles at risk of deletion.   Then half way through, I stopped and thought - why was I bothering?
      
      Before the internet, professional writers would write an article, it would be published in a journal, and then probably never seen again.  For some reason, I've been labouring under the belief my articles deserved to have a long life.  I suppose the revenue-sharing model encourages us to think that way.  But it's illusory really, especially now.

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   EricDockettposted 10 years ago

   During my first 6 months or so on HubPages I wrote some seriously useless Hubs.  Not because I was a crummy writer (that's a totally separate issue) but because I didn't yet understand the things I needed to do to make an article stick. 
   
   I probably have twenty or more Hubs saved on my PC as Word docs.  Every now and then I look at them, think they aren't so bad, and wonder if there is something I can do with them.  There isn't.  They didn't succeed before, and they probably aren't going to succeed now no matter where I put them. 
   
   Sometimes you just need to let a Hub go.  For various reasons, sometimes they just don't work.  When this happens, don't think of it like you wasted your time and you're losing a Hub.  You learned something, hopefully, if nothing else than about what not to do.  The next Hub you write will be better.  It's only a waste if you didn't use the experience to improve yourself. 
   
   If you have a blog that is already established in the same niche as the Hub you are thinking of moving you may as well spruce it up and republish it there.  Otherwise, I've learned it's better to learn from a failed Hub and move on.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Why don't you put them on Bubblews?  You'll need to chop them up into 300 or 400 word bytes (you can write series) - but if all you have to do is cut and paste, you will make enough on Bubblews in the short term to make it worthwhile. 
      
      Articles on Bubblews are throwaways - IMO it's unlikely they'll earn you long-term income - but at least you'll get some return on your effort instead of nothing.
      
      Also, if you have leftover articles which are relevant to your blog, then why not re-use them in some guest blog posts (i.e. posts on other people's blogs on the same topic, with a link to yours), or on other sites like Wizzley, Infobarrel etc which will allow you to link to your blog?

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         EricDockettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Actually I've done the Bubblews thing with a few of them, and I've been thinking of re-purposing the rest of them over there as well. 
         
         I don't know.  I'm not crazy about Bubblews and every second I spend over there feels like I should be doing something more productive, like writing a decent article, or working on my blog, or doing pushups or something.  Still, it's easy money, and I"ve made a few bucks already without hardly firing a neuron.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            I feel exactly the same about Bubblews.  I tried it for a couple of weeks, until I reached my first payout, and I haven't been back.  I see people say they write a couple of "fluff" articles a day and it takes them five minutes - but in my experience, it's far too easy to lose a whole morning on it, by the time you've liked and commented and responded to followers. 
            
            Lissie has been a champion of the site and I saw a post by her, saying her income was working out at about $1 per hour because of all the socialising that's needed.  I'd say about the same. That's not productive in my book.  But it is a good place to chuck old material at.

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   epsonok0posted 10 years ago

   Death of a hub
   Here is a photo of what remains of my genealogy hub. It will be processed out of HP system in 24 hours.
   
   

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   Barbara Kayposted 10 years ago

   I've moved hubs and had a few that I just killed.I didn't like killing any of them, but they were what I wrote in the beginning and just weren't making it. Most hubs I edit though and some of these come back stronger and get more traffic.

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   quiterandomposted 10 years ago

   Apparently some of the things I know well and enjoy writing about are not all that interesting to the vast majority of people searching the vastness of the webernets.
   
   I may move those to my own blog, and continue writing on those subjects to amass a repository of my own thoughts and experiences in "one place".
   
   This may or may not entice readers to peruse the articles I write on said subject, as they appear to be "in one place", as opposed to hubpages which makes everything appear more as separate entities, along with links to what hubpages believes are "similar" articles.
   
   Will let you know how it goes, but will obviously take a while to propagate the search engines search results.

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