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  1. DJ Funktual profile image86
    DJ Funktualposted 8 years ago

    DEAR MARK, 

    I am an avid lover of movies who had tried REPEATEDLY  (2 months ago) to understand what everyone sees in BLADE RUNNER.

    I am completely serious and I would LOVE if you could explain it's appeal.  I've even read other director's gush about how it inspired them.   I watch a lot of MOVIES Mark.
     
    What am I not getting?????.

    I love Logan's Run and The 5th Element which are kinda similar..... a little. 

    the only thing I ever come away with is thinking 2 things

    1)  Sean Young and Daryl hannah are two of the worst actresses in the world, how did the casting director not get executed?

    2)  A Director's Cut?  Are you kidding me?  I can't sit through it now.

    PLEASE Help!

    1. Mark Knowles profile image61
      Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Money big_smile

  2. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago

    It's because of Harrison Ford silly big_smile

    I like that film but I can't really tell you why I do smile

  3. Mark Knowles profile image61
    Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago

    Blade Runner -

    Watch it again.

    Read "Do Androids dream of Electric Sheep."

    Read "Dune."

    Watch all the garbage films out there.

    Become a science fiction fanatic.

    Watch Blade Runner again.

    Then accept that Blade Runner is one of the all-time best-ever sci-fi films.

    Ever.

    Nothing to do with money now. smile

    Except the Director's cut - zzzzzzzzzzz

    1. DJ Funktual profile image86
      DJ Funktualposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I haven't read that book or seen Dune but I'm kinda already a sci-fi geek.

      I know every episode of Star Trek (MODERN ERA SHOWS) 
      Memorized Star Wars and read the Tolkien Trilogy 3Xs by choice. 
      Movies I LOVE

      12 Monkeys
      Brazil
      Cube
      Donnie Darko
      Dark City
      LOVE the first ALIEN
      Time Bandits

      and hey if I can sit through 2001: a space odyssey without getting bored...

      What the hell?

      I wish you would elaborate but it's like making you write a hub in the forums.

      1. Mark Knowles profile image61
        Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        You cannot be a sci-fi geek if you haven't read Dune.

        Have you read all of Iain Banks' "culture" novels?

        The thing with sci-fi is - it is written in books and there are very few films that are worth the trouble. That's why we make a fuss of them when they do come out. Blade Runner just took advantage with the "Special Director's cut" lol - Thta was just the studio screwing you. P2P baby - thats just payback for selling us a load of garbage over and over and over. When was the last time a film you watched lived up to it's trailer?

        Star Wars don't really count as sci-fi. That's just cowboys and Indians in Space. big_smile

        1. crashcromwell profile image80
          crashcromwellposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Oh, sorry Mark, but I have to disagree. Star Wars films are definitely scifi in my book. There are overlapping themes in many genres, so just because there is an element of cowboys and Indians there doesn't mean it's not science fiction.

          1. Mark Knowles profile image61
            Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            OK,

            I guess it depends on your perspective.

            Don't get me wrong - I love Star Wars (the first 3)

            Eric - I also love EE Doc Smith. Although best read when you are 13 years old smile

            Got them all.

            1. Eric Graudins profile image60
              Eric Graudinsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              I think I was about that age when I discovered him smile

  4. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 8 years ago

    If I may butt in. Been a long time since I seen 'Blade', but seems to me the theme is robots. Are you a robot? But on a more basic level if I remember it is an analolgy of the class system of social relations.

    1. DJ Funktual profile image86
      DJ Funktualposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      That's why I mentioned Brazil.  It's got a lot of The Matrix in it. 

      It just bores me.  Can't explain it.

  5. DJ Funktual profile image86
    DJ Funktualposted 8 years ago

    Thanks Mark.  the only sci-fi I actually READ is Douglas Adams, which as we all know does not resemble trraditional sci-fi in any way.

  6. Mark Knowles profile image61
    Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago

    lol

    Well, I would definitely recommend READING Dune, any and Iain Banks sci-fi. big_smile

    Philip K Dick - the guy that wrote "Do androids dream of Electric sheep?" which was turned into Blade Runner is a tough read.

    Other easy-to-read stuff includes Greg Bear, Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle, Orson Scott Card, Robert Heinlein, Isaac Asimov (hard sci-fi), H.G Wells, Larry Niven alone.

    That should keep you going for a while.

    Sci-fi films to watch (if you haven't already)

    Forbidden Planet
    Dark Star
    Invasion of the body snatchers
    Metropolis
    Westworld (Before Michael Crighton sold out big time)
    The Omega man
    Capricorn 1

    1. Shirley Anderson profile image85
      Shirley Andersonposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      All excellent movies!  Which Body Snatchers do you like best - the original or the remake.

      I didn't see The Thing listed.  I like the remake with Kirk Russell better than the original.

  7. drummer boy profile image60
    drummer boyposted 8 years ago

    how about the hulk

  8. Mark Knowles profile image61
    Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago

    Both body snatchers are good. I guess I prefer the Donald Sutherland version slightly more than the original.

    The Hulk - not a good film I thought. Of course I watched it, but comic strip and sci-fi are not the same thing. I am not even sure it was classed as sci-fi. Was it?

  9. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 8 years ago

    Saw Brazil when it first came out. 'Spose to be satire, but gave me the creeps, cause I'm the kinda guy they do that to. Thought the part where the bureaucrat gets covered in paper was a classic though.

  10. Eric Graudins profile image60
    Eric Graudinsposted 8 years ago

    So far, nobody has mentioned  E.E. (Doc) Smith.

    I really enjoyed the intergalactic adventures of his characters I think that the Lensman and Skylark series were his best - even though they were a bit kitsch.

  11. DJ Funktual profile image86
    DJ Funktualposted 8 years ago

    getting back to Blade Runner,
    You're saying that if I read the book that I'll get more out of the movie? 

    Like say with...Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead or with Into The Wild.

    I wanna thank you for YOUR list of recommended films.  Ther are already in my queue at Netflix.      Do you like funny movies at all, Mark?

    http://hubpages.com/hub/100-Funniest-Movies-of-All-Time 

    Been waiting for you to show up since your posts are funnier than most movies I see.

  12. Mark Knowles profile image61
    Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago

    Oh yes, I like funny movies. Hollywood seems to have forgotten how to make them though. I watched Jennifer Aniston and Vince Vaughn in "The break up," recently.

    It was billed as a comedy and I laughed once. At the idea that it was supposed to be funny.

    2 hours of a couple arguing before they break up. What is funny about that? I can do that myself. Have done in fact lol Usually took longer than 2 hours though. big_smile

    Funny films I like:

    Dumb and dumber
    Blazing saddles
    Dr. Strangelove
    Pulp Fiction

    Anything with Peter Sellers or Mel Brooks smile

    But yes - read the books and you will get more out of the movie. In fact some, like Dune - I don't see how they make any sense at all unless you have read the book.

  13. Mark Knowles profile image61
    Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago

    They are perfect at that age.

    The incredible thing to remember is - E.E. Doc Smith was born in 1890 smile

  14. DJ Funktual profile image86
    DJ Funktualposted 8 years ago

    My Grandpa bought me those as a kid along with Edgar Rice Birroughs books, but I think I largely ignored them.  I was in love with Monte Cristo and Robinson Crusoe and wanted my own island ever since.  If I ever get to own a dog, it will be hard not to name him Friday.  Not that I considered the native a dog.  aw Jeez.  Lookout!  j/k

    Mark, I really can't wait to start watching YOUR list of films. 

    Which would you say is the diving board from which i should jump off?   I Saw Body S.  already (Both) but in the words of AXL ROSE, "Where do we go?  Where do we go now?"
    Metropolis and Omega Man are the only ones I know peripherally. 

    Forbidden Planet
    Dark Star
    Metropolis
    Westworld (Before Michael Crighton sold out big time)
    The Omega man
    Capricorn 1

  15. Mark Knowles profile image61
    Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago

    It really doesn't matter, but I would start with the oldest first. Which I think is Forbidden planet.

    Forbidden planet will give you a whole new perspective on Leslie Nielsen big_smile

  16. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 8 years ago

    I like 'The Day the Earth Stood Still' (1951)

    1. Mark Knowles profile image61
      Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Another good one. smile

  17. gamergirl profile image61
    gamergirlposted 8 years ago

    What about V, Mark?

  18. Mark Knowles profile image61
    Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago

    Oh yes. I loved V. The series anyway. The tongues. smile

    But I am trying to break DJ in gently. He has 50 years of catching up to do smile

  19. gamergirl profile image61
    gamergirlposted 8 years ago

    Awwww!

    What about Barbarella?  *insert devil smilie here*

  20. Mark Knowles profile image61
    Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago

    At the risk of being accused of being a pornographer:

    http://markpknowles.com/wp-content/uploads/Barbarella81.jpg

  21. gamergirl profile image61
    gamergirlposted 8 years ago

    Mark...

    I'm sorry to tell you that you are now part of the Pornography Industry's plans to take over the Internet.

    1. Mark Knowles profile image61
      Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      sad Thought I was just having a little fun.........

  22. gamergirl profile image61
    gamergirlposted 8 years ago

    Oh no, you're definitely trying to corrupt the youth of the world.  You're going to desensitize the mothers of the world so that their kids become porn addicts!  How dare you!

    Oh wait.. that was me, wasn't it?

    Darn.

    Hanoi Jane was a hottie, though.

  23. DJ Funktual profile image86
    DJ Funktualposted 8 years ago

    I love Barbarella and I definitely remember V.    Those creepy alien babies. 

    I also like The Weird Bowie movies like The Hunger and The Man Who Fell to Earth.

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    RUTHIE17posted 8 years ago

    dj--I can totally sympathize with your not "getting" Blade Runner.  It's one of my husband's favorites and I can't count the number of times I've fallen asleep while we've been watching it!  I just don't like it!!

    How about "Signs"--would you count it as sci-fi?  Or would it be more horror?  It does have aliens!

    No ones mentioned "War of the Worlds".  I like both the original and the re-make (not Tom Cruise so much but what the hey!).

    I can remember going to the drive-in and seeing Barbarella.  Thought it was soooo sexy back then, now----you can get more excited watching a TV commercial!

    Also agree with Shirley--like the remake of "The Thing" better than the original.  I still jump in a couple of places.

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    RUTHIE17posted 8 years ago

    Oh, just remembered this--

    When "The Howling" came out--scared the poo out of me for some reason!  Still gives me the shivers whenever I see it!  Isn't it funny how some movies will make you react?


    BOO!!  big_smile

 
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