Does Rocovey work???

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   figmentposted 14 years ago

   Does it work?  How so?  What works best?  I want answers from people in and not in recovery?

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      Rochelle Frankposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      What is rocovery?
      --- Oh recovery? Recovery from what?

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      Hokeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yes it works but only if you really want it.

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   mega1posted 14 years ago

   dear Rochelle!  I hope you're not just pretending to be so innocent!  Recovery works - but you have to work it, is what they all say.  Its working for me!  and now I am addicted to recovering.  Today I am recovering from Snickers bars!  I already gave up Cheetos.  And as long as they don't make any new drugs, I guess I'll be ok!  :

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      Fluffymetalposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      what do you do to make it work for you?

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         Rochelle Frankposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I ever got started.. . so I didn't have to make it work. I was very lucky because I know it is a sticky web for way too many.

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   Rafiniposted 14 years ago

   Recovery works for those who want it.
   What works best depends on the person and the situation or whatever it is they are recovering from.

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      Fluffymetalposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      What do you think are the hardest things to recover from? What kind of people are likely to relapse?

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         Rafiniposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         i dont have a clue.  all i've had to recover from is depression and it was a very long process.

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            Fluffymetalposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            me too   How do we keep from relapsing?  What prevention techniques (besides taking our meds) can we use?

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   Rochelle Frankposted 14 years ago

   I don't do Snickers or cheetos-- so I didn't know, sorry. I'll be quiet now.

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   mega1posted 14 years ago

   Ok, I can be serious too!  For me what worked was getting some new friends who didn't encourage me to do those bad things and who had more going for them.  I also found that not buying or buying into those behaviors works.  Also, it is like dieting  - only a radical life-style change works to get the weight off and its the same with other things.  Eating too much is also just exactly like a severe addiction.  You must become mindful - really aware of yourself, and for me that was the hardest part since I'd been working very hard at ignoring my real self for many years!

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      figmentposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I really like your answer mega

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   donotfearposted 14 years ago

   Recovery.....how do we define recovery? One can be in recovery for many things. Drug addiction (alcohol included), gambling addiction, love addiction, sex addiction...the list goes on and on.
   
   Yes it works, if you work it. Gotta WANT to change, gotta WANT to get well, gotta WANT to recover.  Then you go from a contemplation stage to an active stage. That means continuing the daily fight.

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   mega1posted 14 years ago

   I was just watching some young singers on Idol get chewed up by the judges and I thought I need to say this here about recovery:
   
   For some of us gentle souls in our youth, we see how hard and cruel the world can really be and right then, perhaps, we catch a sickness in our very souls.  So then that is what addiction to alcohol or drugs or sex or gambling is really all about - a sick soul that is sad and very very ill tries to make that cruel world go away . . . so when we recover, we actually recover our souls and find the joy in life again.   The sickness is always lingering out there however, and we have to keep our souls strong and healthy in order to stay completely well.

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      Fluffymetalposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      so well said mega

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         mega1posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         thanks, Fluffy - and I also know it takes so much encouragement and solid support from people who barely know you in order to make it through even one month of recovery it is a miracle that right now all over the world people are doing it!  AWESOME!  here we are, blessed.

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   JeanMeriamposted 14 years ago

   Recovery from what, Figment? If you're meaning from an addiction, the statistics are very low. I believe it is around 4%.
   
   I foster children of addicts and these are the ones who continually bounce back into care after being sent home with their parents. Most only manage a few months clean and sober. I have fostered about 50 kids in the last four years, mostly children of addicts. Many have become long term foster children,most have gone with relatives, 1 went home. I'm not sure if she is still home or back in care.
   
   From my perspective it is very bleak.

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      mega1posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I'm wondering where you got that 4% figure?  I know that what you are saying about children of addicts and alcoholics is very true.  Unfortunately so very very many addicted people never even try to recover from their addiction and have kids who suffer and become addicts and it is really insane.  But the world is cruel, we can only make our own choices and stay compassionate.

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         JeanMeriamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I can't remember exactly. I was doing research two years ago because I was trying to help a mom. I went with the figure to social services and they confirmed it.
         
         Everything I read says AA only has a 5% recovery rate according to AA themselves and they are supposed to have one of the highest rates.
         
         I am not talking recovery as in they got clean and stayed sobered for a while, but as a permanent lifelong thing.

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      Pani Midnyte Odinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      4%??? Surely, the percentage must be higher. Why, I know of at least 4 recovered addicts who frequent the forums, not including myself!

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         JeanMeriamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I would never take away from what you have done, it's amazing but from everything I've learned "once an addict always an addict"
         
         I know people who have been in recovery for years and restarted. It's lifelong.

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      Fluffymetalposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      recovery from addiction of any kind: drugs, sex, alcohol, gambling, food, etc.

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   Pani Midnyte Odinposted 14 years ago

   Recovery only works if you want to recover.

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    Faybe Bayposted 14 years ago

    I have recovered from drugs and gambling... and sex, but that doesn't count exactly. Mainly if it is bad for you you have to teach yourself to hate what it does to you. That's why I think I will learn to quit smoking soon, as I am teaching myself to hate it.

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       Fluffymetalposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Good luck with that.  I've been trying to hate it for years.

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          Fluffymetalposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          by the way, how are you?

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             Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I am getting better. I wrote some hubs and I have made 2.45 in adsense so far.

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                Fluffymetalposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                good job

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                   Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   How are you doing?

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                      figmentposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      I'm better trying to get hubs finished

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    SwampDonkeyposted 14 years ago

    What are you trying to recover? Did you lose something? Was it stolen?

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    donotfearposted 14 years ago

    Recovery is : “…Striving for a satisfying, hopeful and contributing life while at the same time coping with the challenges and limitations imposed by mental illness and its consequences.” Bill Anthony, Ph.D.

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    tantrumposted 14 years ago

    Recovery is finding and recovering yourself again

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    suarezelec2002posted 13 years ago

    You get out of recovery, what you put "into" it. Addicts and alcoholics being some of the the laziest persons around and some of the most disorganized is the reason you have such a high failure rate. 12 step, "Jesus", religion, medical or any other treatment you wish to give yourself as a form of recovery only "work" when a person has had enough and is humble enough to admit it. I am a recovered Addict and alcoholic who used for about 20 years, spent at least 4 times in rehab, countless times in out patient treatments and never got SOBER, "until" a judge said I had a choice. 15 years to life or "straighten up" through a tough regime of 2 1/2 years of in and out patient treatment. I was 31 years old then, I am now "57" and still "sober." Recovery is something nobody gives you. It is something you EARN the hard way which goes to show few "stay" sober for the years I have.

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    Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

    Recovery does work and those who say "it works if you work it" are correct. It requires daily care and feeding. And yes, the numbers are pretty sad. It's the rare alcoholic/addict who is able to "get it and keep it" without relapsing.
    When you are an addict/alcoholic your natural state is to feed your illness by drinking/using. When you stop, you need to replace that "medicine" with new medicine that is more powerful.
    I look at recovery as a combination of carrots and sticks.
    Carrots are the promises -- your life does get better. You do get your joy back. You learn how to deal with life (good and bad) without numbing yourself.
    The stick is the memory of how miserable that last drunk was and all the things I would lose if I went out. Not pretty.
    One of the best lines I've heard in AA is to stay in the middle of the pack so you don't get picked off. That's where I stay -- I don't want to take any foolish chances.
    But I don't take it for granted. I've known too many people who got complacent in their recovery and the inevitable happened...

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    BRIGHTMAN24posted 13 years ago

    HOW CAN YOU RECOVER WHAT YOU WERE MISSING IN THE FIRST PLACE? WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU TRYING TO RECOVER?TO RECOVER MEANS TO RESTORE. TO ME THE WORD RECOVERY IS COMPLETLY WRONG, EXCEPT FOR MY EARLY CHILDHOOD ALL I CAN REMENBER IS LIVING THE DRUG LIFE AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS A WAY OF LIFE. HOW CAN YOU RECOVER A LIFE YOU NEVER KNEW, YOU NEVER LIVED. TO  ME IT SHOULD BE CALLED REPROGRAMMING. FOR MOST OF US HAVE LIVED THIS WAY FOR SO LONG WE KNOW NOTHING ELSE. THERE IS NOTHING TO RECOVER. JUST START OVER, CHOOSE NOT TO USE, CHOOSE TO CHANGE, CHOOSE TO DO RIGHT.YOU WON'T RECOVER ANYTHING AND WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO RECOVER THE LIFE YOU HAD BEFORE YOUR DRUG USE ANYWAY. THATS WHAT LED TO YOUR DRUG USE IN THE FIRST PLACE. CHOOSE TO CHANGE!!!!!

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    kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years ago

    I think recover from anything is a life long process and self discovery, a challenge, and a very personal quest.

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    kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years ago

    I also believe recovery is a gift.

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    Hokeyposted 13 years ago

    The only way to win is to just not use. No matter what.

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