Donation button
Spam ????
Get out of the wrong side of bed today did we Misha
Micropayments are relevant to the discussion, and a mention about hub is fine.
Ferrcrissakes, It's not even a link!
Cheers, Eric G.
Rilly? I should be missing something, but in my understanding you either sell something for money (including your labor), or you beg. Asking for donations does not look like selling.
Do it on your own site, I have no problem. It is not a terribly effective way, and there are better ways to make money for a pretty girl with brains - but if this is your choice it is your choice.
Now, if you come to Hubpages and demand they implement this button for you and ruin their business model and credibility of every serious hubber around - I object.
- shreekrishnaposted 14 years ago
0 - girly_girl09posted 14 years ago0
Not sure how you think it got "turned around." I for one equate it with begging. That is just my opinion. I see beggars all the time. Sometimes they clean my windshield first.
Well, I think Billy Graham is scum and all preachers are begging for money. That is what they do.
Hope that helps.
LOL
It is not irrelevant what I think. I am not prepared to stoop as low as these preachers. You know - morals. Personally - I make a reasonable income doing this. Sorry you are so inept you need to beg for donations, but I am not interested in doing so.
Ask for MONEY to provide FREE content?
You'd made a good head of propaganda back in Soviet Russia
Apply to Obama government, they need right peopleYEEE HAAA You earned the Vodka matey!!! Good on You Misha
- Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago0
Man, I can't ignore it when people address me directly. Yet I don't have much else to say.
I DO understand this model, if fact I was familiar with it long before I even came to Hubpages. More, I did pay using this model for some products I wanted to pay for. This does not change the fact that this is begging by my definitions. This also does not change the fact that I do not want to use this model on my pages, because it does not fit my business rules.
Now, implementation of your model will require Hubpages to get into the business of dealing with customers money - which they were trying to avoid like a plague, and I have a wild guess they still will
- Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago0
- MangoGirlposted 14 years ago0
I guess hubpages does not want to rely on the begging model either huh?
Get used to it, my friend. As long as you want money for it, it's your product.
Can't speak for anybody else, but I have no interest in a donation button - if people donate a dollar, all of the little donations are going to make doing the end-of-year accounts a nightmare.
OP - original poster
Providing services is not begging. Asking for donations is. And we all know about your love to BigG, and you sticking it here does not make any sense
Well if the reason that these artists were not allowed to open a guitar case and place it discretely before them was because of preemptive anti a-hole rules, then that's a sad, sad state of affairs. The good are penalized even prior to the bad perpetrating the crime.
Um, yeah. You know, it's funny you say that, I was just reading some Dickens and it's funny, there's a character named Mark Knowles in one of his novels that said ... well, here, I'll just paste the section of the book in for you:
The clerk, in letting Mark Knowles' nephew out, had let two other people in. They were portly gentlemen, pleasant to behold, and now stood, with their hats off, in Mark Knowles' office. They had books and papers in their hands, and bowed to him.
'Knowles and Marley's, I believe,' said one of the gentlemen, referring to his list. 'Have I the pleasure of addressing Mr Knowles, or Mr Marley?'
'Mr Marley has been dead these seven years,' Mark replied. 'He died seven years ago, this very night.'
'We have no doubt his liberality is well represented by his surviving partner,' said the gentleman, presenting his credentials.
'It certainly was, for they had been two kindred spirits. At the ominous word liberality, Mark frowned, and shook his head, and handed the credentials back.
'They are. Still,' returned the gentleman,' I wish I could say they were not.'
'The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?' said Mark Knowles.
'At this festive season of the year, Mr Knowles,' said the gentleman, taking up a pen, 'it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the Poor and destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir.'
'Are there no prisons?"
'Plenty of prisons,' said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.
'And the Union workhouses.' demanded Mark Knowles. 'Are they still in operation?'
'Both very busy, sir.'
'Oh. I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course,' said Mark Knowles. 'I'm very glad to hear it.'
'Under the impression that they scarcely furnish Christian cheer of mind or body to the multitude,' returned the gentleman, 'a few of us are endeavouring to raise a fund to buy the Poor some meat and drink, and means of warmth. We choose this time, because it is a time, of all others, when Want is keenly felt, and Abundance rejoices. What shall I put you down for?'
'Nothing!' Mark Knowles replied.
'You wish to be anonymous?'
'I wish to be left alone,' said Mark Knowles. 'Since you ask me what I wish, gentlemen, that is my answer. I don't make merry myself at Christmas and I can't afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned-they cost enough; and those who are badly off must go there.'
'Many can't go there; and many would rather die.'
'If they would rather die,' said Mark Knowles, 'they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."
Shades, I hereby award you the coveted triple LOL award
And from now on, until the interwebz turns to dust, I decree that Mark Knowles be given the nickname "Ebenezer".I second that award.
Ebeneezer Knowles. Has a nice ring to it.Too funny!
Hey Nick - how's it hangin'?
I prefer to think of hubpages as a street in Monaco - where the pimps, panhandlers, buskers, beggars and spammers get quietly swept up into the back of a police van and deposited the other side of the border on a regular basis.
Actually I do reconsider ALL my cultural luggage for quite some time already. Don't think I want to get rid of that particular piece just yet though, but definitely don't swear I never will.
lol well look at like tipping someone (only for good service)
(which is kinda rich because tipping is not a custom in my country either)...
but when in Rome
Well ok lets just ask for a raise dammit
I have mixed feelings. I do think it could be considered a little tacky, though I don't agree with the begging logic. To me, begging is asking for something for nothing. Like was mentioned, writing hubs is not nothing.
Also, isn't putting ads on the hubs along the same lines? You're indirectly asking (or perhaps trying to indirectly manipulate) people to click on the links and/or buy something from Amazon. Otherwise, why are they there?
As for why a company does anything - well let's not go there. Companies do screwed up stuff all the time. Doesn't mean hubpages should of course, but that's a pretty loaded question. It's like asking why did GM let themselves get into this mess they are in now?
Granted, I'm new here, I'm not sure how the whole money-via-clicks and impressions thing works, except I have no money from the process.I am dying to see what Mark will reply tomorrow
I've read this post with interest. Therefore I'm conducting an experiment. Those that think it's begging for the sake of - well - begging, you are excused. By yourselves a cool beer. Or something.
However, those that are in support and feel individuals should be able to garner money by way of a donate button, please check out my hubs. If you feel I'm worthy of taking a share of your hard earned, click this:
which you will find at the bottom of my hubs.
Thankyou for taking part in this experiment by way of putting your money where your mouth is
NB Your money will not be returned to you at any point in the futureAwesome idea. Your paypal is in the post/internet/whatever
Wonderful Mr Knowles! I shall look forwards to its arrival as/when/never
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