What is the mark of passage for transition from Boy to Man
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Some cultures have a rite of passage, what is it in the USA and in your culture?
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NGRIA Bassett wrote:
Some cultures have a rite of passage, what is it in the USA and in your culture?
There is no "rite" of passage for a boy to grow into a man.
Life is a journey on it's own. To put limits on it, implies you need someone else's approval for your life.
Which isn't the case.
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Cagsil wrote:
NGRIA Bassett wrote:
Some cultures have a rite of passage, what is it in the USA and in your culture?
There is no "rite" of passage for a boy to grow into a man.
Life is a journey on it's own. To put limits on it, implies you need someone else's approval for your life.
Which isn't the case.I don't think she is putting limits on it, there are cultural traditions in many countries, even in the US, but not predominantly among the masses. That's not very nice to say if you do not understand her culture.
Jewish people mark the Bar Mitsvah as a rite of passage for 13 year old boys. I am not Jewish, but this is one I can think of.- 85
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rebekahELLE wrote:
Cagsil wrote:
NGRIA Bassett wrote:
Some cultures have a rite of passage, what is it in the USA and in your culture?
There is no "rite" of passage for a boy to grow into a man.
Life is a journey on it's own. To put limits on it, implies you need someone else's approval for your life.
Which isn't the case.I don't think she is putting limits on it, there are cultural traditions in many countries, even in the US, but not predominantly among the masses. That's not very nice to say if you do not understand her culture.
Jewish people mark the Bar Mitsvah as a rite of passage for 13 year old boys. I am not Jewish, but this is one I can think of.As you said- the Jewish people the Bar Mitsvah as a rite of passage for 13 year old boys.
The "bar mitsvah" a rite of passage, created by man which determines when a boy becomes a man.
A Boy becomes a man when he himself thinks he is ready.
Not sooner, because someone tells them.
It's a ridiculous notion. - 96
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NGRIA Bassett wrote:
Some cultures have a rite of passage, what is it in the USA and in your culture?
a few years ago, I read a very interesting book about the passage from boyhood to man and it was very revealing in what sometimes lacks in the US and probably other countries also.
I will try to find it~ it was a discussion of perhaps this is why it is so difficult for some young men to understand their role in life because it is not so easily defined. the rites of passage that exist in some cultures clearly mark that passage from boy to man.
although I agree with casgil that life is a journey, we are still male and female and have certain stages of life we go through. - 96
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Cagsil wrote:
rebekahELLE wrote:
Cagsil wrote:
There is no "rite" of passage for a boy to grow into a man.
Life is a journey on it's own. To put limits on it, implies you need someone else's approval for your life.
Which isn't the case.I don't think she is putting limits on it, there are cultural traditions in many countries, even in the US, but not predominantly among the masses. That's not very nice to say if you do not understand her culture.
Jewish people mark the Bar Mitsvah as a rite of passage for 13 year old boys. I am not Jewish, but this is one I can think of.As you said- the Jewish people the Bar Mitsvah as a rite of passage for 13 year old boys.
The "bar mitsvah" a rite of passage, created by man which determines when a boy becomes a man.
A Boy becomes a man when he himself thinks he is ready.
Not sooner, because someone tells them.
It's a ridiculous notion.perhaps ridiculous to you.
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rebekahELLE wrote:
NGRIA Bassett wrote:
Some cultures have a rite of passage, what is it in the USA and in your culture?
a few years ago, I read a very interesting book about the passage from boyhood to man and it was very revealing in what sometimes lacks in the US and probably other countries also.
I will try to find it~ it was a discussion of perhaps this is why it is so difficult for some young men to understand their role in life because it is not so easily defined. the rites of passage that exist in some cultures clearly mark that passage from boy to man.
although I agree with casgil that life is a journey, we are still male and female and have certain stages of life we go through.Stages in Life?
Boy,
Man.
Girl,
Woman.
Two stages for each gender. 
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i agree. a boy becomes a man when he feels he is ready. he usually arrives at this conclusion by handing respnsibility successfully, dealing with many of life's problems on his own and through applying what he learns from role models in his life. while i respect other cultures, i think compelling a boy to endure some painful rite when he reaches 12 years of age, say, doesn't make him a "man" just because he completes it. he could still be immature and whatnot.
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cosette wrote:
i agree. a boy becomes a man when he feels he is ready. he usually arrives at this conclusion by handing respnsibility successfully, dealing with many of life's problems on his own and through applying what he learns from role models in his life. while i respect other cultures, i think compelling a boy to endure some painful rite when he reaches 12 years of age, say, doesn't make him a "man" just because he completes it. he could still be immature and whatnot.
Thank you cosette
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NGRIA Bassett wrote:
Some cultures have a rite of passage, what is it in the USA and in your culture?
It's an interesting question. I don't think there is one, which is probably why there's a lot of young men that still act like kids. You could say that dating and getting married is a rite of passage but so many of us, men and women are delaying that.
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Cagsil wrote:
cosette wrote:
i agree. a boy becomes a man when he feels he is ready. he usually arrives at this conclusion by handing respnsibility successfully, dealing with many of life's problems on his own and through applying what he learns from role models in his life. while i respect other cultures, i think compelling a boy to endure some painful rite when he reaches 12 years of age, say, doesn't make him a "man" just because he completes it. he could still be immature and whatnot.
Thank you cosette
you're welcome.
Flightkeeper wrote:
NGRIA Bassett wrote:
Some cultures have a rite of passage, what is it in the USA and in your culture?
It's an interesting question. I don't think there is one, which is probably why there's a lot of young men that still act like kids. You could say that dating and getting married is a rite of passage but so many of us, men and women are delaying that.
I agree. There isn't really one.
I hope it's not getting married-- I haven't had any luck finding any good girls so I might not be a man until I'm 30
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NGRIA Bassett wrote:
Some cultures have a rite of passage, what is it in the USA and in your culture?
well, absoultely, a rite of passage does not make a boy a man. that is not her question. obviously some grown men haven't made that passage when they're consumed with hot babe material.
her original question is asking about different cultrual traditions for rites of passage. - 85
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zadrobi wrote:
Flightkeeper wrote:
NGRIA Bassett wrote:
Some cultures have a rite of passage, what is it in the USA and in your culture?
It's an interesting question. I don't think there is one, which is probably why there's a lot of young men that still act like kids. You could say that dating and getting married is a rite of passage but so many of us, men and women are delaying that.
I agree. There isn't really one.
I hope it's not getting married-- I haven't had any luck finding any good girls so I might not be a man until I'm 30Don't feel bad......LOL!
I'm 40 year old and never been married.
Does that mean I am still a little boy? - 85
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rebekahELLE wrote:
NGRIA Bassett wrote:
Some cultures have a rite of passage, what is it in the USA and in your culture?
well, absoultely, a rite of passage does not make a boy a man. that is not her question. obviously some grown men haven't made that passage when they're consumed with hot babe material.
her original question is asking about different cultrual traditions for rites of passage.But, it is to insinuate that all cultures have rite of passages.
It's a huge assumption.
Just wanted to point that out. 
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"Being a man" is not something boys "pass into". It's something that grows from within, provided a boy doesn't have emotional problems. I've seen some very little boys acting very much like men when the circumstances call for it (often more like men than some adult males do, even when the circumstances would seem to call for it).
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Lisa HW wrote:
"Being a man" is not something boys "pass into". It's something that grows from within, provided a boy doesn't have emotional problems. I've seen some very little boys acting very much like men when the circumstances call for it (often more like men than some adult males do, even when the circumstances would seem to call for it).
I've seen what you said in action.
More ways than I care to reveal.....LOL! - 95
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Cagsil, I think know exactly why you've added the "LOL".
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rebekahELLE wrote:
NGRIA Bassett wrote:
Some cultures have a rite of passage, what is it in the USA and in your culture?
well, absoultely, a rite of passage does not make a boy a man. that is not her question. obviously some grown men haven't made that passage when they're consumed with hot babe material.
her original question is asking about different cultrual traditions for rites of passage.Being consumed with hot babe material does not indicate a mans lack of maturity. Would you prefer he settled on some unfashionable trollop who wore thick glasses and had a moustache? Would that be a sign of the mans maturity?
Often, the culture and religious significance of a rites of passage is not the same as the boys own unique interpretation of a rites of passage. For many, when their voice breaks is a rite of passage, also discovering new and inventive things they can do with their penis is also a rites of passage. lol- 96
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Cagsil wrote:
rebekahELLE wrote:
NGRIA Bassett wrote:
Some cultures have a rite of passage, what is it in the USA and in your culture?
well, absoultely, a rite of passage does not make a boy a man. that is not her question. obviously some grown men haven't made that passage when they're consumed with hot babe material.
her original question is asking about different cultrual traditions for rites of passage.But, it is to insinuate that all cultures have rite of passages.
It's a huge assumption.
Just wanted to point that out.I understand what you're saying.
and men, marriage doesn't make a boy a man, don't worry. some boys grow into men because of circumstances beyond their control. perhaps the rite of passage is life itself.
thanks for clarifying.
nigra, when I find the title I'll let you know if you're interested.
