? If The Messiah was perfect...then what did He have to learn ?
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underhiswings wrote:
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The prophets do not know they are prophets till a certain time. They live like normal humans till they get the call from god.
This universe has ,is and will always be in perfection something an enlightened one knows.
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How to convince people that what he's saying is real=)
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topgunjager wrote:
How to convince people that what he's saying is real=)
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Nothing.
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that if he was perfect...which he wasn't
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no human is perfect, but a good spokesperson can be looked upon by others as perfect. Maybe the people that wrote the Bible didn't see his flaws or maybe he didn't do nothing wrong around them. But I got another question, what does it take to be perfect?
He had to learn the easiest way of convincing people that he's real and to give offerings!
Are you talking about Isaiah 7? Where it says "...before he learns to reject the wrong and choose the right"? That one has never been clear to me, it sounds like Isaiah's son since right in the next chapter, Isaiah goes and gets the prophetess pregnant and all those prophecies are fulfilled there. Except the whole virgin idea if it's virgin like we say today.
If it was meant to be about Jesus, I don't know why it's a problem, he wasn't all-knowing from birth. Even those who think he was the Almighty himself claim that he limited himself to normal humanity.
Anyone who knows history, was Jesus born in the right time frame for that prophecy? Before Assyria invaded (I think it said before)? I don't think so.- 48
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tantrum wrote:
that if he was perfect...which he wasn't
So can you say where you find fault with The Messiah ?
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mohitmisra wrote:
underhiswings wrote:
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The prophets do not know they are prophets till a certain time. They live like normal humans till they get the call from god.
This universe has ,is and will always be in perfection something an enlightened one knows.Messiah had His call before He was ever sent into the world and even said as much.
One record shows that even at age 12 He knew who He was and why He came to the planet.
He astounded the wisest of the wise with His wisdom at 12 and nobody could challenge His words without being humbled by His answers.
He spoke no idle words and only spoke what He heard His Father say at all times. He never did His own will, but only the will of the One who sent Him.
Being not only Prophet, He was also High Priest and King, the living sacrifice of GOD that laid down His life as an offering for the sins of the world. Rose from the dead by His own power, thus proving He is GOD.
He qualified by living a perfect life, never being disobedient to His Father. 
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i thought he was teaching people not learning.
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repstrydiefly wrote:
no human is perfect, but a good spokesperson can be looked upon by others as perfect. Maybe the people that wrote the Bible didn't see his flaws or maybe he didn't do nothing wrong around them. But I got another question, what does it take to be perfect?
Correct, no HUMAN is perfect. Messiah was not conceived by a man and woman coming together though, He was formed in the womb of a virgin by The Holy Spirit and thus the seed was not corrupted when conception took place.
Like Adam, He was formed and did not come to be by normal relations.
He came in the form of humankind, but did not sin as we do.
The scriptures are transparent about the faults of the men and women who are written about and nobody is portrayed as being perfect besides Messiah. That is to say, nobody is said to have no sin or fault of wrong within them besides Messiah. All the people written about had faults and sins and did wrong, even though they strove to do righteously they still fell short of perfection and it is made clear in the accounts of them.
If Messiah had any faults, they would have been written. But as it is, even when He was taken before Herod and Pilate to answer the "charges" that were brought against Him, neither ruler could find fault with Messiah at all, so He was never convicted of anything, but crucified anyhow.
It is one thing to strive for righteousness and perfection and fall down and get up each time, it is quite another to not strive for it at all.
You asked "what does it take to be perfect?"
What do you think it takes ? Do you have an idea ? Opinion ?
I could just give an answer, but usually people know what they want to hear and believe, rather than be honest. What is you take on your question ? - 48
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poetlorraine wrote:
i thought he was teaching people not learning.He did teach and He did learn.
To start with, He learned from His Father. - 48
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topgunjager wrote:
How to convince people that what he's saying is real=)
No, He just spoke the truth and whoever believed in Him followed Him.
Many are called and few are chosen. - 48
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retellect wrote:
He had to learn the easiest way of convincing people that he's real and to give offerings!
He lived His life as an offering by example.
That is what an offering is, it is you !!
~pretty sure you were joking anyways~ - 48
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TMinut wrote:
Are you talking about Isaiah 7? Where it says "...before he learns to reject the wrong and choose the right"? That one has never been clear to me, it sounds like Isaiah's son since right in the next chapter, Isaiah goes and gets the prophetess pregnant and all those prophecies are fulfilled there. Except the whole virgin idea if it's virgin like we say today.
If it was meant to be about Jesus, I don't know why it's a problem, he wasn't all-knowing from birth. Even those who think he was the Almighty himself claim that he limited himself to normal humanity.
Anyone who knows history, was Jesus born in the right time frame for that prophecy? Before Assyria invaded (I think it said before)? I don't think so.He said "I always do the things that please My Father"
So this was not something He learned as He always followed His Fathers lead. 
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The Savior was/is human.
Praise our Lord and Savior,
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believeinhim wrote:
The Savior was/is human.
Praise our Lord and Savior,
believeinhimHe came in the likeness of humankind yes.
He was without sin though.
He is The Lord God. The visible Image of an invisible GOD. 
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underhiswings wrote:
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Are you talking about Obama?
