Why is it this way
One thing I see in this forum. It appears that the people that don't believe in God don't want to discuss anything. Most of the posts are just name calling or basically saying you are stupid if you believe. It would be nice if there was actually some serious debate on issues.
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spease wrote:
One thing I see in this forum. It appears that the people that don't believe in God don't want to discuss anything. Most of the posts are just name calling or basically saying you are stupid if you believe. It would be nice if there was actually some serious debate on issues.
And, what you like to talk about?
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spease wrote:
One thing I see in this forum. It appears that the people that don't believe in God don't want to discuss anything. Most of the posts are just name calling or basically saying you are stupid if you believe. It would be nice if there was actually some serious debate on issues.
They have no knowledge to share so to take part they resort to such childish methods.
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mohitmisra wrote:
spease wrote:
One thing I see in this forum. It appears that the people that don't believe in God don't want to discuss anything. Most of the posts are just name calling or basically saying you are stupid if you believe. It would be nice if there was actually some serious debate on issues.
They have no knowledge to share so to take part they resort to such childish methods.
I beg to differ.
Even a child can learn, when it's ranting or raving. The learning process doesn't stop, because one's attitude changes. 
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Attacking and belittling others probably gives a boost to their ego. Calling the other one stupid is the only intelligent thing they can conceive of.
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spease wrote:
One thing I see in this forum. It appears that the people that don't believe in God don't want to discuss anything. Most of the posts are just name calling or basically saying you are stupid if you believe. It would be nice if there was actually some serious debate on issues.
Debate cannot exist between believers and non-believers.
You cannot seriously expect non-believers to indulge your fantasies. If you're hoping they would discuss 'God' with you, it would become a tacit admission on their part for the existence of God.
There is no debate to enter into.
I strongly believe in the existence of pink fairies. I now require and demand of you to enter into debate with me on the pros and cons of pink fairies.
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Cagsil wrote:
mohitmisra wrote:
spease wrote:
One thing I see in this forum. It appears that the people that don't believe in God don't want to discuss anything. Most of the posts are just name calling or basically saying you are stupid if you believe. It would be nice if there was actually some serious debate on issues.
They have no knowledge to share so to take part they resort to such childish methods.
I beg to differ.
Even a child can learn, when it's ranting or raving. The learning process doesn't stop, because one's attitude changes.
Some are not here to share their knowledge as they dont have any or to learn but are here on a sadistic reason of poking fun at people who believe in god.
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Maximus591 wrote:
spease wrote:
One thing I see in this forum. It appears that the people that don't believe in God don't want to discuss anything. Most of the posts are just name calling or basically saying you are stupid if you believe. It would be nice if there was actually some serious debate on issues.
Debate cannot exist between believers and non-believers.
You cannot seriously expect non-believers to indulge your fantasies. If you're hoping they would discuss 'God' with you, it would become a tacit admission on their part for the existence of God.
There is no debate to enter into.
I strongly believe in the existence of pink fairies. I now require and demand of you to enter into debate with me on the pros and cons of pink fairies.
ho ho hoSo why come on a religious forum where the conversation is bound to revolve around the spirit and god.
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anjalichugh wrote:
Attacking and belittling others probably gives a boost to their ego. Calling the other one stupid is the only intelligent thing they can conceive of.
Well, I guess that depends on who you are talking about? Like, who specifically.
I can think of a few off the topic of my head, but won't say who they are, because the flare-up from it wouldn't come down for days.
But, to have a simple debate or conversation about 'religion' is to have two completely open people to carry-on a rational and sane subject.
Religion isn't rational, because it tells to believe in something outside reality.
If you are curious- reality, as defined by Aristotle- Reality exists. Reality exists free of independent thought(s), desire(s), will, or wishes. Reality is all knowable.
An example: I could say "cure for cancer", but we all know that is real, because we know it doesn't exist in reality. It has not been found or discovered, as of yet. But, once a CURE is found, it will become part of reality, because it will then exist.
If 'god' really wanted follower, worshippers or believers, that's all he had to is tell everyone. He is suppose to be all-powerful, all-knowing, always everywhere.
No, instead- man creates the 'god' concept out of thin air, and centuries later- we have a society that can't think for itself.
That's a shame. - 75
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Cagsil wrote:
anjalichugh wrote:
Attacking and belittling others probably gives a boost to their ego. Calling the other one stupid is the only intelligent thing they can conceive of.
Well, I guess that depends on who you are talking about? Like, who specifically.
I can think of a few off the topic of my head, but won't say who they are, because the flare-up from it wouldn't come down for days.
But, to have a simple debate or conversation about 'religion' is to have two completely open people to carry-on a rational and sane subject.
Religion isn't rational, because it tells to believe in something outside reality.
If you are curious- reality, as defined by Aristotle- Reality exists. Reality exists free of independent thought(s), desire(s), will, or wishes. Reality is all knowable.
An example: I could say "cure for cancer", but we all know that is real, because we know it doesn't exist in reality. It has not been found or discovered, as of yet. But, once a CURE is found, it will become part of reality, because it will then exist.
If 'god' really wanted follower, worshippers or believers, that's all he had to is tell everyone. He is suppose to be all-powerful, all-knowing, always everywhere.
No, instead- man creates the 'god' concept out of thin air, and centuries later- we have a society that can't think for itself.
That's a shame.Aristotle, Plato and many of the Greek philosophers talk of the immortality of the soul as being a reality.
Cagsil wrote:
anjalichugh wrote:
Attacking and belittling others probably gives a boost to their ego. Calling the other one stupid is the only intelligent thing they can conceive of.
Well, I guess that depends on who you are talking about? Like, who specifically.
I can think of a few off the topic of my head, but won't say who they are, because the flare-up from it wouldn't come down for days.
But, to have a simple debate or conversation about 'religion' is to have two completely open people to carry-on a rational and sane subject.
Religion isn't rational, because it tells to believe in something outside reality.
If you are curious- reality, as defined by Aristotle- Reality exists. Reality exists free of independent thought(s), desire(s), will, or wishes. Reality is all knowable.
An example: I could say "cure for cancer", but we all know that is real, because we know it doesn't exist in reality. It has not been found or discovered, as of yet. But, once a CURE is found, it will become part of reality, because it will then exist.
If 'god' really wanted follower, worshippers or believers, that's all he had to is tell everyone. He is suppose to be all-powerful, all-knowing, always everywhere.
No, instead- man creates the 'god' concept out of thin air, and centuries later- we have a society that can't think for itself.
That's a shame.Why is that not thinking for yourself. We all have to make decisions about what we believe. There are no facts that you can prove God does not exist. What do you believe in?
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mohitmisra wrote:
Cagsil wrote:
anjalichugh wrote:
Attacking and belittling others probably gives a boost to their ego. Calling the other one stupid is the only intelligent thing they can conceive of.
Well, I guess that depends on who you are talking about? Like, who specifically.
I can think of a few off the topic of my head, but won't say who they are, because the flare-up from it wouldn't come down for days.
But, to have a simple debate or conversation about 'religion' is to have two completely open people to carry-on a rational and sane subject.
Religion isn't rational, because it tells to believe in something outside reality.
If you are curious- reality, as defined by Aristotle- Reality exists. Reality exists free of independent thought(s), desire(s), will, or wishes. Reality is all knowable.
An example: I could say "cure for cancer", but we all know that is real, because we know it doesn't exist in reality. It has not been found or discovered, as of yet. But, once a CURE is found, it will become part of reality, because it will then exist.
If 'god' really wanted follower, worshippers or believers, that's all he had to is tell everyone. He is suppose to be all-powerful, all-knowing, always everywhere.
No, instead- man creates the 'god' concept out of thin air, and centuries later- we have a society that can't think for itself.
That's a shame.Aristotle, Plato and many of the Greek philosophers talk of the immortality of the soul as being a reality.
Aristotle seen the true potential of mankind. Plato was a mystic.
Plato first defined reality, which was later re-defined by Aristotle.
A lot of western civilization was started based on Plato's thinking. Was later replaced by Aristotle's science and philosophy combine definition.
Science has yet to prove people even have a soul. So, that's out the window right off the bat.
Remember, if religion or any form of religious faith was never created by man, then the word soul and spirit, might not even be in existence.
You wouldn't even be talking about the soul of a person. The soul of a person is perception of others, as to the actions of an individual.
There is no soul 'type' concept to have been proven to exist. - 85
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spease wrote:
Cagsil wrote:
anjalichugh wrote:
Attacking and belittling others probably gives a boost to their ego. Calling the other one stupid is the only intelligent thing they can conceive of.
Well, I guess that depends on who you are talking about? Like, who specifically.
I can think of a few off the topic of my head, but won't say who they are, because the flare-up from it wouldn't come down for days.
But, to have a simple debate or conversation about 'religion' is to have two completely open people to carry-on a rational and sane subject.
Religion isn't rational, because it tells to believe in something outside reality.
If you are curious- reality, as defined by Aristotle- Reality exists. Reality exists free of independent thought(s), desire(s), will, or wishes. Reality is all knowable.
An example: I could say "cure for cancer", but we all know that is real, because we know it doesn't exist in reality. It has not been found or discovered, as of yet. But, once a CURE is found, it will become part of reality, because it will then exist.
If 'god' really wanted follower, worshippers or believers, that's all he had to is tell everyone. He is suppose to be all-powerful, all-knowing, always everywhere.
No, instead- man creates the 'god' concept out of thin air, and centuries later- we have a society that can't think for itself.
That's a shame.Why is that not thinking for yourself. We all have to make decisions about what we believe. There are no facts that you can prove God does not exist. What do you believe in?
I believe in facts. There are NO facts to prove GOD exists in the first place.
You show me facts that GOD exists and I'll be glad to believe in him.
Try not to turn this around, like you did in your statement.
Your statement- "There are no facts that you can prove God does not exist." Yes, I can- look at reality, the all knowable truth about what really does exist.
You can't touch GOD.
You can't smell GOD.
You can't hear GOD.
You can't see GOD.
And, you most certainly can not taste GOD.
YOU can't prove he exists.
It's not that I can't prove he doesn't exist. Reality says he doesn't exist.
The 'bible' is man-made.
What? And you probably think "Jesus Christ" was really a religious minister too? But, he wasn't.
He was born a Jew. He has no dealings with religious/spiritual leaders of his time, because he knew it wasn't real. It's the specific reason he told everyone not to believe in a false idol.
Jesus Christ was a human male. His younger years are hidden away, and left for people to speculate as to what and where he was during his teen years and into adult.
He was nothing special, but the time he lived was a crossroads for human evolution and he noticed many human beings being enslaved by religious/spiritual leaders of his time, and he was appalled by their actions.
He didn't die for the sins of mankind. He was executed because he would teach their heretic religious B.S. mohitmisra wrote:
So why come on a religious forum where the conversation is bound to revolve around the spirit and god.Oh Mohit
So, the religious forum is only for people who fight over whose god is the best?
When and where did hubpages tell that atheists are not allowed in this forum?
Or your god told you that way Lol?
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Cagsil wrote:
mohitmisra wrote:
Cagsil wrote:
Well, I guess that depends on who you are talking about? Like, who specifically.
I can think of a few off the topic of my head, but won't say who they are, because the flare-up from it wouldn't come down for days.
But, to have a simple debate or conversation about 'religion' is to have two completely open people to carry-on a rational and sane subject.
Religion isn't rational, because it tells to believe in something outside reality.
If you are curious- reality, as defined by Aristotle- Reality exists. Reality exists free of independent thought(s), desire(s), will, or wishes. Reality is all knowable.
An example: I could say "cure for cancer", but we all know that is real, because we know it doesn't exist in reality. It has not been found or discovered, as of yet. But, once a CURE is found, it will become part of reality, because it will then exist.
If 'god' really wanted follower, worshippers or believers, that's all he had to is tell everyone. He is suppose to be all-powerful, all-knowing, always everywhere.
No, instead- man creates the 'god' concept out of thin air, and centuries later- we have a society that can't think for itself.
That's a shame.Aristotle, Plato and many of the Greek philosophers talk of the immortality of the soul as being a reality.
Aristotle seen the true potential of mankind. Plato was a mystic.
Plato first defined reality, which was later re-defined by Aristotle.
A lot of western civilization was started based on Plato's thinking. Was later replaced by Aristotle's science and philosophy combine definition.
Science has yet to prove people even have a soul. So, that's out the window right off the bat.
Remember, if religion or any form of religious faith was never created by man, then the word soul and spirit, might not even be in existence.
You wouldn't even be talking about the soul of a person. The soul of a person is perception of others, as to the actions of an individual.
There is no soul 'type' concept to have been proven to exist.You can never prove the existence of something that is non physical. The word Soul is a word. Language is important in defining that which we wish to categorize as meaning something. The word Soul is derived from ancient Greek literature in which psyche = soul = was defined as the seat of emotions, passions and lower rational faculties.
Now to say the Soul doesn't exist, is the same as saying the mind also doesn't exist. The brain is the vessel for thoughts to become animated, ie it is the human organ through which consciousness becomes animated. Now because you can't see the Mind, does that mean it doesn't exist?
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LOT2DO wrote:
mohitmisra wrote:
So why come on a religious forum where the conversation is bound to revolve around the spirit and god.Oh Mohit
So, the religious forum is only for people who fight over whose god is the best?
When and where did hubpages tell that atheists are not allowed in this forum?
Or your god told you that way Lol?No thats not what I meant.If you don't relate to and dont believe in god then what is your reason for being here.
If it is only to mock then its is sad. - 75
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Cagsil wrote:
mohitmisra wrote:
Cagsil wrote:
Well, I guess that depends on who you are talking about? Like, who specifically.
I can think of a few off the topic of my head, but won't say who they are, because the flare-up from it wouldn't come down for days.
But, to have a simple debate or conversation about 'religion' is to have two completely open people to carry-on a rational and sane subject.
Religion isn't rational, because it tells to believe in something outside reality.
If you are curious- reality, as defined by Aristotle- Reality exists. Reality exists free of independent thought(s), desire(s), will, or wishes. Reality is all knowable.
An example: I could say "cure for cancer", but we all know that is real, because we know it doesn't exist in reality. It has not been found or discovered, as of yet. But, once a CURE is found, it will become part of reality, because it will then exist.
If 'god' really wanted follower, worshippers or believers, that's all he had to is tell everyone. He is suppose to be all-powerful, all-knowing, always everywhere.
No, instead- man creates the 'god' concept out of thin air, and centuries later- we have a society that can't think for itself.
That's a shame.Aristotle, Plato and many of the Greek philosophers talk of the immortality of the soul as being a reality.
Aristotle seen the true potential of mankind. Plato was a mystic.
Plato first defined reality, which was later re-defined by Aristotle.
A lot of western civilization was started based on Plato's thinking. Was later replaced by Aristotle's science and philosophy combine definition.
Science has yet to prove people even have a soul. So, that's out the window right off the bat.
Remember, if religion or any form of religious faith was never created by man, then the word soul and spirit, might not even be in existence.
You wouldn't even be talking about the soul of a person. The soul of a person is perception of others, as to the actions of an individual.
There is no soul 'type' concept to have been proven to exist.Aristotle seen the true potential of mankind. Plato was a mystic.
Both were philosophers/mystics.
Intellectuals have been talking about the soul for such a long time and the Greek philosophers did just that.
The earliest spiritual text the Holy Vedas means science.Earlier science incorporated the aspect of the soul or spirit and god as well.
There is no soul 'type' concept to have been proven to exist.
By science which doesn't know the source as well.Today science is spending billions of dollars in order to try and find the god particle, science is still learning. - 75
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Cagsil wrote:
spease wrote:
Cagsil wrote:
Well, I guess that depends on who you are talking about? Like, who specifically.
I can think of a few off the topic of my head, but won't say who they are, because the flare-up from it wouldn't come down for days.
But, to have a simple debate or conversation about 'religion' is to have two completely open people to carry-on a rational and sane subject.
Religion isn't rational, because it tells to believe in something outside reality.
If you are curious- reality, as defined by Aristotle- Reality exists. Reality exists free of independent thought(s), desire(s), will, or wishes. Reality is all knowable.
An example: I could say "cure for cancer", but we all know that is real, because we know it doesn't exist in reality. It has not been found or discovered, as of yet. But, once a CURE is found, it will become part of reality, because it will then exist.
If 'god' really wanted follower, worshippers or believers, that's all he had to is tell everyone. He is suppose to be all-powerful, all-knowing, always everywhere.
No, instead- man creates the 'god' concept out of thin air, and centuries later- we have a society that can't think for itself.
That's a shame.Why is that not thinking for yourself. We all have to make decisions about what we believe. There are no facts that you can prove God does not exist. What do you believe in?
I believe in facts. There are NO facts to prove GOD exists in the first place.
You show me facts that GOD exists and I'll be glad to believe in him.
Try not to turn this around, like you did in your statement.
Your statement- "There are no facts that you can prove God does not exist." Yes, I can- look at reality, the all knowable truth about what really does exist.
You can't touch GOD.
You can't smell GOD.
You can't hear GOD.
You can't see GOD.
And, you most certainly can not taste GOD.
YOU can't prove he exists.
It's not that I can't prove he doesn't exist. Reality says he doesn't exist.
The 'bible' is man-made.
What? And you probably think "Jesus Christ" was really a religious minister too? But, he wasn't.
He was born a Jew. He has no dealings with religious/spiritual leaders of his time, because he knew it wasn't real. It's the specific reason he told everyone not to believe in a false idol.
Jesus Christ was a human male. His younger years are hidden away, and left for people to speculate as to what and where he was during his teen years and into adult.
He was nothing special, but the time he lived was a crossroads for human evolution and he noticed many human beings being enslaved by religious/spiritual leaders of his time, and he was appalled by their actions.
He didn't die for the sins of mankind. He was executed because he would teach their heretic religious B.S.Jesus and nothing special?
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Cagsil wrote:
I believe in facts. There are NO facts to prove GOD exists in the first place.
You show me facts that GOD exists and I'll be glad to believe in him.
Try not to turn this around, like you did in your statement.
Your statement- "There are no facts that you can prove God does not exist." Yes, I can- look at reality, the all knowable truth about what really does exist.
You can't touch GOD.
You can't smell GOD.
You can't hear GOD.
You can't see GOD.
And, you most certainly can not taste GOD.
YOU can't prove he exists.
It's not that I can't prove he doesn't exist. Reality says he doesn't exist.
I'm glad you had that last bit in there Cagsil. If you choose to denounce God you can choose to do that and I'm not sure there are any real solid facts to back up his existence either but that is why they call Christianity a FAITH because you choose to believe in his existence. I'm not pushing you to believe in God but I hope that you find him some day, but hey at the end of the day it's your choice.
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mohitmisra wrote:
No thats not what I meant.If you don't relate to and dont believe in god then what is your reason for being here.
If it is only to mock then its is sad.Those who believe in God don't mock at others in this forum? Are you sure only non believers do that?
