I see people sitting before a painting, some adults, some children. Anything else that might be said would require total speculation on my part, which would then open the door for me to begin preaching whatever my political/social/religious opinion is based on nothing as I totally depart from what is actually visible and verifiable about that photograph.
this is Henri Matisse's "The Dance". it is so stylized that these dancers go from simply nude bodies to symbols of freedom and emotional expression. there is absolutely nothing pornographic about this. i exposed my son to all kinds of extraordinary works of art from a very young age, and he wasn't harmed in any way.
They're highly stylized naked people dancing in a circle. How is that porn?
If nudity equals porn, then is Michelangelo's "David" porn? Or his "The Last Judgment?" How about the Venus de Milo? A pretty significant percentage of the world's greatest paintings and statues feature naked or near naked human bodies.
Dear Brenda. You consider Matisse's painting pornographic? Perhaps you are of the Victorian persuasion that considered piano legs should be clothed to prevent them from creating erotic stimulation. One might argue that the dancers are inelegant, perhaps even a little clumsy, but never pornographic. But come on, admit it: you are joking, are you not? And congratulations, you have managed to stir up a lively reaction. But a painting must say something and I do not think this painting says a lot. Even so, would you deny the artist the right to explore human emotion, even including the erotic nature we all posses? Pornography is not art, it is bad taste, and only an artist can create something beautiful out of our primitive emotions.
yeah i suppose if I had a three year old, it could happen. I don't think that the painting is overly exposing or would even arouse those children- I'm sure if a young boy wanted to see too much, MTV would do a lot better than that. But what an ugly POS. Thats lazy and its wasting some wall space for something really nice.
I see further evidence that this country is going to hell in a handbasket. Only in a Commu/Fasci/Socialist nation ruled by a Kenyan-born Muslim could filth like this pass as art. NOWHERE in the Consty Tooshin does it say that lesbian images can be publicly displayed. Let's impeach this S.O.B. rat now!!!
The sex education is hidden behind the eye of a wanting lustful eye, appalled to speak of such individualized cravings, to each his/her own, to speak about it/as if to ruin it or too vague to discern a proper discription. To do it and actualize it is but the best education- invariably in the long run
I snapped this picture over the holidays. I'm not saying there is or isn't anything wrong with it or with what is happening. The adults were asking the children what they see, what they thought was happening and where etc. I thought some of the kids were maybe too young for such a discussion considering the limits placed upon other media such as TV and print in the USA. For example if that painting had been reproduced in a photograph using real people could it be shown on TV or in a newspaper?
Very subjective.... as I feed my pleasures with visions cast, as to model the porno graphic thoughts in every moment lost.....pleasing thyself again and again.....until you come, come into your very own porn.. you the star,, on fire wanting more, more, more
Not porn. And I see no problem with children viewing it and discussing it with adults. When I was a child I could recognize David. In this particular case I can just see that there is a group of people looking at art.
pornography: creative activity (writing or pictures or films etc.) of no literary or artistic value other than to stimulate sexual desire
I highly doubt the artist of this piece had the sole intention of turing people on.
Umm sorry Brenda but I couldn't disagree more. Do you honestly think that people who look at this painting will be convinced to hold hands with others and dance naked in a circle in public? That isn't the point.
And while some things that are natural aren't very visually appealing (such as your examples) nudity to me is not one of them. Nudity to me can be artistically beautiful and meaningful. If you don't feel that way, then this painting isn't for you. Just as your Bible isn't for me.
Making nudity a dirty thing does more harm to a person than just showing it for what it is: having no clothes on. We're born that way, why is it sinful to show a natural thing; you'll notice I covered up my avatar for fear of offending someone, BTW.
I didn't say they don't know what that is, I merely state that it is completely natural; many cultures around the world see nudity either fully or partially as a non-issue. Only the so-called civilized societies find this to be repulsive.
I lived in Europe for 6 years. There is hardly a city you go to where you do not see some statue (very often a rather realistic depiction, as opposed to the painting you show) that displays some form of nudity. Go to the museums there, you see even more. What I see is art.
Damn right why not, I could make a beautiful photograph of just that, what differentiates art from non art is not the subject matter, that is totally the artists province, but what the artist does with it and how he/she interprets and presents it.
You have no right to even comment on an artists choice of subject matter, if you don't like it, don't look at it.
Wow. Like someone else said, I thought this thread was dead too. But since it's here again, I will exercise my rights to ...um....COMMENT on it again! LOL. Who are you referring to that you think has "no right" to comment on...anything at all? Doesn't really matter; if YOU have a right to comment on it, so does everyone else. Your comment is total hogwash.
Very funny. I think David's nudity is simply unnecessary and detracts from the strength of the statue's meaningful impact. But hey, I'm not shocked; I'm not as prudish as you might expect. I've seen and experienced and done more than my fair share of shameful things, of which I'm eternally grateful to be forgiven for. As far as nudity, I just think it has its proper place, whether one is a Christian or not, and it's not in public, for one thing.
Oh my, where is RKHenry? He has several hubs on the subject matter. I love the one about Nudity and Prudes. He has another titled "Penises, Pubic Hair or Art." They talk about the very subject matter. Some very enlightening views on what once was "banned" and how ridiculous this modern era has become concerning art. I highly recommend the read.
It isn't crude, and in that rare circumstance someone probably wouldn't mind if it didn't expand much. Point being, just checking someone out in the shower (or in statue form) doesn't determine how well endowed they are.
You mean to tell me you still don't know what men and women look like without clothes? So now we have to look at them so you can keep it straight? Just get a picture and put it in your wallet! That isn't that hard people!
I think it's a beautiful painting. When I look at it I see joy, vibrancy, spontaneity, strength, and resilience. I like the sensual lines. The figures are nude but I don't see it conveying sexuality in the prurient sense, it's not licentious. To me the dancers are being carefree and natural.
Lets face it there's no sense muddying the waters with morality. With so many single parent families we may as well encourage our children to act out so they can get pregnant. Then the ones that are already there won't feel bad about themselves. Is there no end to evil?
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