I have hubpages that are not featured but are listed in Google search

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   bgamallposted 11 years ago

   I thought if a hubpage was listed in Google search it was featured. But apparently that is not the truth. I guess I will keep the hubs up and run my own check on them.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      You've got it back to front and not quite right.
      
      If a Hub is Featured, it just means that it passes some of HubPages' internal standards - i.e. it has either passed the Quality Assessment Process, or it's an existing Hub which is getting an acceptable level of traffic.  Nothing to do with Google.
      
      A Featured Hub is visible to Google, but (a) if it's newly Featured, Google may take a while to notice it and (b) even when it does notice it, it's up to Google to decide whether it's worth including in search engine results.

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      Matthew Meyerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      As other users have pointed out, a Hub showing up in a search engine does not necessarily mean it is featured.
      Hubs are featured based on traffic and other quality assessments.
      You can see which of your Hubs are featured here:
      http://hubpages.com/my/hubs/stats
      
      You can find more info about the quality assessment process here:
      http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/Featured-Hubs

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         bgamallposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I am sorry, but this is a quality hub. http://bgamall.hubpages.com/hub/The-Cam … all-Street
         
         I am sorry hubpages doesn't think so Matthew. So this hubpage has been deleted and the content put on my blog.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            If that is an older Hub which you haven't touched recently, then you can be 99% sure idling has nothing to do with quality.  Existing Hubs are idled for lack of traffic, not for lack of quality.
            
            A Hub goes through the Quality Assessment Process:
            
            a) when it is first published
            b) every time you edit it.
            
            They also do random sampling of existing Hubs, but it's not a large number so the odds are it doesn't apply to yours.
            
            If a Hub doesn't go through the QAP, then the only reason it can be idled is lack of traffic.  So that's probably the reason in your case.
            
            Having said that, I agree with your strategy.  If a Hub is idled for lack of traffic, there's not much you can do to fix it.  Promotion, keyword tweaking etc take time to work, and you'd have to watch the Hub like a hawk to make sure it doesn't idle again while you're waiting.  So it makes a lot more sense to move it somewhere else. 
            
            I should also add that I sympathise, because I cannot understand why HubPages chooses to idle based on lack of traffic.  I've done a fair bit of research and I cannot find any internet expert who thinks that posts with low traffic can harm a site in any way, shape or form.  If that was the case, then every new site in the world would be in trouble - because how much traffic does last year's news get?  Yet they don't "idle" their old stories.
            
            Finally, all this has been thrashed out several times in the forums since the "Featured" Hubs were introduced, so I'm surprised you weren't aware of all this already.

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               bgamallposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks for the advice!

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   Nesbyteposted 11 years ago

   It's sort of the other way way around - a featured hub will be listed, but an idle/pending hub could still be listed too. This is because Google takes a while to add or remove pages from the the index.

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   Miriam Weissmannposted 11 years ago

   This is what it says at the learning center:
   
   Featured Hubs are Hubs that our Quality Assessment Process has determined to have high quality and potential for reader engagement. These Hubs are showcased on Hubs and Topic Pages, and also made available to search engines.
   
   If you ask me, that means if a hub isn't featured, it isn't made available to search engines.

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      Nurseyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      No, no, no, no, no. All wrong, sweetie. You've been here a few weeks and think you know all about it. Marisa Wright has been here for years. Listen to her.

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      bgamallposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      That is exactly what I thought until I checked it out. And, btw I have a few good hubs that aren't featured. I don't think the people reading the hubs can comprehend a good economic hub. They are better at sewing.

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   derek gulbransonposted 11 years ago

   Our goal is that the Featured status of Hubs be reflected in Google's index correctly within a couple of days of a its last status change, so there will normally be at least a few days where Google's index is out of sync.

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      bgamallposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      No, I have non featured hubs that have been in google for a long time. You don't get it. These aren't hubs on sewing. They don't get traffic because there aren't enough smart people looking for them. Google popularity is like the tyranny of the majority. If you don't look for it it isn't popular, and if it isn't popular no one looks at it. Chicken and the egg. That doesn't mean it has no value just because Americans are more concerned about football and fashion.

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   William F. Torpeyposted 11 years ago

   The problem is that the wording in the statement in the Learning Center is misleading. It states:
   
   "These Hubs are showcased on Hubs and Topic Pages, and also made available to search engines."
   
   Or
   
   "These Hubs are ......made available to search engines." The implication clearly is that idle Hubs are not made available to search engines.
   
   Miriam's reading of the statement is understandable. Perhaps the Learning Center statement should be rewritten to clarify the issue.

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      bgamallposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Of course it needs to be rewritten. It is incorrect.

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   Marisa Wrightposted 11 years ago

   I have to apologise.  I read bgamall's post but didn't read the heading properly. 
   
   I have the same understanding as bgamall.   If a Hub isn't Featured, it should be labelled "no follow" and therefore it shouldn't be appearing in Google search, except in the transition period (when it's just been idled and hasn't been recrawled yet).
   
   Which is what Derek says in his answer.

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      Nurseyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Not to worry, sweetie. It is so very easy to overlook such tiny details when one is as busy as you. However, you are so right, Marisa. My hub is a featured hub, but it's not included in Google search results. ♡ ♡ ♡

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   chicagoguyposted 11 years ago

   how you do the google search for your hubs ....

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      derek gulbransonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Just add "site:yoursubdomain.hubpages.com" to the search terms in google. Leaving it blank will show everything Google currently knows about on your subdomain.

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      janderson99posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      One way to see if your hub is indexed is to copy the entire title
      "My fabulously funny article"
      add 'hubpages' to it
      "My fabulously funny article hubpages" 
      Then enter this as a Google search term.
      If it is indexed, it will how at the top of the search results.
      The 'hubpages' bit is needed because there may be many other articles with a very similar title/keywords
      If you enter the URL of an Idled or pending hub Google will find it BUT its not indexed!

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         bgamallposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         That is how I did it.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            So which one did you do, the title or the exact URL?

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               bgamallposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Exact url.

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                  Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  I'm not sure what the problem is, then?  That's nothing new.  You can find an idled Hub using the exact URL, and so can anyone you send the exact URL to - we knew that already.  The Hub is not really invisible to Google, though we often use that phrase - Google can see it, but it also sees the "No Follow", which tell it not to index it. So it's not going to appear in any other type of search.
                  
                  I guess we use the "invisible" line because for most of us, the fact that you can still find it with the URL is not important - the amount of traffic you could generate directly from links is laughable and not worth the effort.
                  
                  The reason we have a problem with wording in the Learning Center is that HubPages avoids defining "idled" Hubs altogether, it only talks about Featured Hubs.   They can't say ""These Hubs are ......indexed in search engines", because they can't guarantee any Hub will be indexed - that's up to the search engines.   All they can say is that they're "made available".
                  
                  If they had stuck with the Idled Hubs terminology, they could have said, "These Hubs have a "no follow" tag appended so they will not be indexed by search engines", which would've been a lot clearer.

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                     bgamallposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     It is a waste of time to write good content that results in no follows. Total waste of time.  But at least one of my hubs has no nofollow even though it is not premier.  So even that is not accurate.

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                        bgamallposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        In other words, it can be looked up by keywords as well.

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                           Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                           I'm sorry, I'm not following your terminology.
                           
                           We're talking about an idled Hub, right?  You're saying that you can find it on Google if you type in the exact URL, which is exactly as it should be.
                           
                           Are you now saying that it comes up in keyword searches?  Was that before or after you did the exact URL search (remember Google keeps a record of what you've previously searched, even if you're not logged in). 
                           
                           Do you want to share the Hub in question and let us see if we have the same experience?

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                              bgamallposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              I checked other hubs and they are not listed. However, they are listed through Patrick.net. Here is an example.
                              
                              http://patrick.net/forum/?p=1048092
                              
                              Here is one you can find with keywords: http://bgamall.hubpages.com/hub/Wall-St … l-Teachers
                              
                              I think Hubpages royally screwed these up when they put dates on the hubs. It shows in Google search with a DATE!!! 
                              
                              Sep 27, 2012 – This biggest and richest of industries has a plan to destroy the middle class, make ... Wall Street Is Behind the Attacks on California Pensions! The Campaign to Discredit California and Pensions Comes from Evil Wall Street ...
                              
                              Marissa, I am talking about unfeatured hubs. I guess they are idled. But this is a really good hub that is not featured: http://bgamall.hubpages.com/hub/Zillow- … al-Housing
                              
                              It is important to the conversation about multigenerational households.

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                                 tussinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                 It's listed on Patrick.net because someone (presumably you) posted that link there.  What does that have to do with it being indexed by Google search? 
                                 
                                 I have idled hubs that I too can post on patrick.net.  That doesn't mean they will become indexed by google.
                                 
                                 Are you just trolling and trying to confuse people by pretending to be completely confused about everything?  If so, I approve.

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                                    bgamallposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                    Ha! I like your humor, but no, I am not trolling. One hub was likely idled because hubpages did that date thing back then and it bumped a lot of hubs. One hub is really important to the conversation of Zillow and multigenerational living and it is idled, or not featured. I am assuming but trying to find out if those terms are the same.
                                    
                                    I am at the point where I don't care. I will take the hubs and put them on a blog or something. Their loss.

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                                       Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                       "Idled" means exactly the same as "not Featured".   Exactly the same.
                                       
                                       HubPages does not use the term "idled" any more.   Many of us continue to use it because (a) it's misleading to use the official HubPages term, which is "normal", and (b) it's less cumbersome than "not Featured".
                                       
                                       What happened was that HubPages introduced the "Idling" system, which makes Hubs "no follow" if they fail the Quality Assessment Process or if they receive insufficient traffic.   There was an outcry amongst Hubbers, so HubPages thought they could take the sting out of the system by changing the terminology.  They didn't change the system - just the name.
                                       
                                       So what HubPages now calls a "Featured" Hub is what used to be a normal, do-follow Hub.   What HubPages now calls a "normal" Hub is actually an idled, no-follow Hub.   All rather Orwellian if you ask me.

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   MelissaBarrettposted 11 years ago

   I know everyone is down on idling but after hp idled one of my hubs I did a bit of quick work on it... maybe 10 minutes.  That was a day or so after Christmas.  Last week it brought in 1000 views.  Just saying it might be worth it to edit and republish.

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   gajanan89posted 9 years ago

   i have seven featured hubs, but my friends are able to see only four hubs out of seven.
   In my account it shows {H} but not in my page, can anyone help me to fix this problem

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