Update on the Adsense front.

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   Neinahpetsposted 11 years ago

   So now I figured out what is going on .... sorta.
   
   I have been here 2 1/2 weeks have 3,896 hub views, 25 hubs (all featured) with scores of 72-86 and have many accolades for participation in the community.  I am actually even up for the Rising Star accolade in the Food and Drink section.
   
   That said, I have been denied by Adsense more times than I care to count with them never listing a reason... just they can't accept me into the program at this time.  Anyone who has looked at my profile has not seen a problem.  All my articles are my own and all my photos are either my personal photos I've taken, or Creative Commons photos from Flickr or Public Domain Pictures.net with source, title and backlink.
   
   I finally saw on the association part of HubPages Earnings that the account association has either been disabled by me (didn't happen) or Google for a TOS Violation.  I can't seem to grasp what TOS I broke.
   
   Could someone help me and see if they can see what would be doing that? 
   
   The only thing I can think of would be 2 articles I have that I used to have on a blog that I deleted about 2 weeks ago still appear in a Google search... would this be the issue?  What should I do here about this one?  Unpubish and wait or?  Before I edited and reworked those articles for hubpages to be articles and not personal blog opinions I still got denied so I have not thought that the problem... but the problem then could have been that I hadn't sourced the photos/been here long enough.  The two hubs in question aren't my best hubs so I'm not adverse to closing them for the time being.  It's my articles about Japanese Wedding Firm and Indian Brides/South Asian Wedding with Western Culture that are the ones I had on a blog once.
   
   Other than the former blog entries can anyone see where I might be violating Google's TOS?  I don't click my ads or promote that in anyway.. or any of the things I've read they talk about.
   
   Any help would be appreciated... from what I hear I'm apparently doing good for a Rookie Writer and I want to actually try to make a profit off of that but I can't if I'm denied Adsense since it's required to get earnings from Hubpages Earnings Program.   
   
   I don't have another website or blog at this time to link to Adsense and don't have the time to manage one to a point where Adsense would pick it up and I've already linked this URL as my URL so that option is out.
   
   Thanks in advance to any advice that can be given.

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      Marina Lazarevicposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Neinahpets! You should have received an email from Google stating why your application was disapproved -- did you? relache and worst-of-hp are absolutely right that applying multiple times can hurt your chances of getting accepted, so I would recommend not applying again for a while. If you are not doing what their email claims you are doing, then it may be a mistake on the part of the AdSense approval team. The first step is checking your inbox (or spam folder) for an email from AdSense regarding the status of your application. Also, I don't see anything referencing "age of content" as the reason for the disabling on your affiliate settings page. Am I missing something?

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         Neinahpetsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Unfortunately the only reasoning they give me is this each time...
         
         "Thank you for your interest in Google AdSense. After reviewing your
         application, our specialists have found that it does not meet our program
         criteria. Therefore, we are unable to accept you into our program.
         
         We have certain policies in place that we believe will help ensure the
         effectiveness of Google ads for our publishers as well as for our
         advertisers. We review all publishers, and we reserve the right to decline
         any application. As we grow, we may find that we are able to expand our
         program to more web publishers with a wider variety of web content.
         
         Please note that we may not be able to respond to inquiries regarding the specific reasons for our decision. Thank you for your understanding.
         
         Sincerely,
         The Google AdSense Team"
         
         ...which is why I can't understand why I don't meet program criteria or what I'm not meeting.  The only thing I know about the TOS violation is the affiliate settings on the Earnings tab on Hubpages.    I think I'm missing something too.

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      NotPCposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      If I were you, I would forget about adsense for about six months. I am recommending this to you for two reasons. When you reapply in six months, you will have no problem getting accepted. My second reason is that the HubPages earnings program is much more lucrative than Google Adsense. To put it into perspective, for every dollar I make from the HubPages earnings program, I make about a penny from Google Adsense.

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         Marina Lazarevicposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Google AdSense is a requirement for participation in the HubPages Ad Program, though.
         
         Neinahpets, sounds like you are already planning to hold off on reapplying for a while. That's a good idea. In the meantime, if I uncover anything about why your application was disapproved, I'll let you know in the next couple of days!

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            Neinahpetsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you for further looking into it Marina, and I will just keep hubbing for the meantime!

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            NotPCposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Oh dang! As I was writing my post earlier I wondered what if... Sorry for the misinformation!

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               Neinahpetsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               It's okay, I've run into a lot of people who weren't aware that you had to have Adsense to earn anything actually.  No worries!

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         Neinahpetsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Smart advice, thank you.  I have heard a lot about the earning program being the better bet.  It is a shame they don't offer it separately; maybe one day, eh?

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   relacheposted 11 years ago

   Remember that internal achievements don't mean anything outside of the HubPages site.
   
   Reading and understanding the Terms for AdSense and not violating those terms are really key to getting accepted to their program.  Not having a web presence established for long enough, not having very many web pages and having unoriginal material are all grounds for not being accepted to AdSense.  Repeatedly reapplying in a short amount of time while still having unacceptable content is only going to put your account standing in a worse position.

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      Neinahpetsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, I understand those things but I list the achievements from here to show that if I had become this established in the community if I were doing something wrong it would have already been brought up I'd thought.
      
      And I also understand those are the keys to being accepted... but my question is, what term am I violating because I can't seem to figure one out.  I have original content, my own writing and recipes from my personal recipe book at home, and photos that are legal or my own.
      
      Thanks for letting me know about the reapplying but I'm still unsure what TOS violation I've done.

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         relacheposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         An erroneous presumption, as proved by your very own experience.  You think you are established, but Google doesn't.
         
         
         
         The three conditions I listed are all the things for which I think you are being declined by AdSense.  If you can't understand it when someone spells it right out for you, earning from this site may turn out to be an insurmountable challenge for you.

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            Neinahpetsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Definitely a wrong presumption to make on my part.
            
            I do understand better now once worst-of-hp expanded on what you said in a way that made it easier for me to understand.  I apologize for my confusion.  Like I had said to them... I just honestly had no idea that age of content was a TOS violation since that's what is listed on my association. 
            
            Thank you for your help, and hopefully I will get to a point that I will understand things better to be able to earn something worthwhile on this site.

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   Marisa Wrightposted 11 years ago

   Neinah, if you've been here less than 3 weeks and you've applied to Adsense "more times than you care to count", you have probably done yourself a disservice.   You need to let a reasonable time pass between each application!   Adsense may be going "her again!" and saying no without even looking at whether you've progressed.
   
   Sit back, be patient and try again in a month.
   
   Be aware that "Established" to Google just means having sufficient content and having been in existence for a while - community activity counts for nothing. 
   
   Content copied from elsewhere will count against you.  You do have to give content time to disappear from the cache after you delete it, before you repost it elsewhere.

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      Neinahpetsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you very much Marisa for your insight.  I am definitely going to give it a month or more now...  I think that is my problem now.  By then my articles should also be out of cache from my old blog too.
      
      Thank you again for your input!

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         Cook n Save Moneyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I started here two weeks ago, but I have already have had an AdSense account for years. 
         
         I've made more with the hubpage earning program than through AdSense on HP.  Mind you, they're both rather dismal at this time, but as expected when just starting out.
         
         Just keep posting and building your content base.  It can take time to get that AdSense account, but once you do, you can use it on other platforms without the need to reapply and wait to begin earning with them.  It is worth the wait.

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            Neinahpetsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks for your input, I'll keep pushing on building my content and audience for when I am able to earn.

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   Careermommyposted 11 years ago

   Hi Neinahpets, I did read some time ago that Google Adsense may require that you're established for a couple of months before they will approve you, so maybe the length of time you've been on Hub pages has something to do with it.  How admirable though that you've written so many Hubs in such a short period of time!

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      Neinahpetsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks so much for your kind words.  I love sharing things I'm passionate about and have lots to say so I'm just going to keep hubbing for a while longer to get better established.  I may just wait the entire 6 months that a lot of people have to.

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   Kangaroo_Jaseposted 11 years ago

   Neinahpets,
   
   This is an opportunity to build a portfolio of articles on HubPages whilst you wait out a six month period. Otherwise there are still many places to earn on the internet.

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      Neinahpetsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      You're absolutely right.  Thank you.

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   AngieG72180posted 11 years ago

   I'm trying to figure out the earnings as well... It's kind of confusing.  If we start writing now, we don't get credit for it financially because we don't have an AdSense account... But if we don't have articles, AdSense won't approve us... Quite confusing.  I don't want to advertise my articles only to have them not credit.  It's a double edged sword.

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      wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      If you are an experienced on line writer that knows the ropes, the adsense problem isn't going to affect you - you already have an adsense account.
      
      If you are a nube to the subject it is highly unlikely that you could earn more than a very few dollars in your first few months. 
      
      Consider those few dollars, then, as the financial cost of starting your business.  Work at it, and within 2 or three 3 years you will be earning those same few dollars every day rather every few months.
      
      The point is that for a nubie with no account you aren't going to lose out on hundreds or even tens of dollars by not having an adsense account.  It's not worth worrying about.  Build your account, attract what traffic you can and learn how to make it all work.  When you do get an account it will be worth the effort.

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         Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         +1

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   Neinahpetsposted 11 years ago

   So for anyone curious how things turned out...
   
   As of today I have an email stating that I was accepted into the program (though I had no reapplied so not sure about how that worked haha).  Today was the first day of my 6th week here and I have 27 hubs.  I think it's pretty interesting that it turned out like this and am happy that I'm part of Adsense now (I even wonder if my profile photo had something to do with it?  I changed it yesterday lol). 
   
   Anywho... that's just an update!

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      Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Well done!

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