I hadn't checked for a while, but have just done so, and found I'm earning more from Kontera than from Adsense. Is this usual?
The same has happened with me only between Searchwarp and Hubpages, not my other sites. It might seem that Kontera has increased the cost per click, I hope so.
That's interesting LG. I'm earning much more on Adsense than Kontera, and I think that's common, but hey whatever works is good!
With algorithms who know why some things do better than others? It's a wild guess I'd say.
I got a *system maintenance* message since Thurs night over at Kontera. I have no idea what my earnings . but .. I just added it few weeks back so it might be catching up? lol .. I cant say right now but at least I am starting to earn now even if it's not a lot but I'm not expecting that till 10 yrs from now, lol
That's highly unusual for Kontera to beat Adsense - at least from what I've heard and seen from the masses and first-hand experience. But hey if it's working for you then keep it going;)
From my experience of running them both, I'd personally say your either making too much from Kontera, or not enough from Adsense. I've been with them both for about 6 months, and I've made 30 times more from Adsense.
Yet that might just be me...
In all fairness LG, money is money, it's good that it's coming in from any place!
WEll, I've only just got going, so I guess they are both just noise at the moment - will have to wait longer to see a trend.
I've earned about $10 from adsense, and $24 from Kontera.
Congrats on that. I haven't made a penny yet. I can't even get Kontera to recognize me yet, even though my hubs have their links.
bgpappa, I may be misinterpreting what you mean by having trouble getting Kontera to "recognize" you, but my account was pretty much dead for quite a while; because I didn't do something right way at the beginning. Somewhere along the way I got some message that the account was not active, but when I'd go try to figure out how to make it active all I could find was "My Account" which didn't seem to offer what I was looking for, and "embed code" (which doesn't work for HubPages).
Maybe (if that's what your problem is and if you haven't done this), e.mail their support and ask for the number you need to add to your HubPages account. (If I've misunderstood the situation, needless to say, disregard my well intentioned attempt to help.)
did you ever fix this problem? they do hide the kontera code pretty well you have to actually look for it in the embed code
if you go to content link set up tab
you will see a big grey box in the box is the code
"<!-- Kontera ContentLink(TM);-->
var dc_AdLinkColor = 'blue' ;
var dc_PublisherID = 70096 ; <----
the number next to PublisherID is the number you are looking for to insert into the hub console
(that of course, is not my actual ID..so dont get any ideas about using my code and making tons of money
*shock* lucky you! I've been at Adsense for about 6 months now, just gone past $32 :S
On both affiliates, it's almost all from one hub. On google, every penny from one hub.
Hey LG please help. I too subscribed for Kontera. It got rejected once but the second time it got accepted. I mentioned the ID number that I got in the affiliate setting here but still it is not showing. I have never seen it. I have already written a thread http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/11349 on this forum. There Mark says he has seen it but I haven't seen any kontera ads on my hub yet. What do you think the problem could be? Am I missing something? Please comment on the thread that I have started, It will be easy for me to check. Thanks
Have you checked your Kontera account? Does it show page impressions?
Sorry got a bit busy so I didn't get time to check. I checked just now and it shows that the ads have been shown more then 300times. That's great. But only thing is that I have not see ads till date but no worries so long I am earning out of it.
Thanks for suggestion
I believe that as long as your logged into Hubpages you won't see any of your adverts. Try logging out and checking your hubs then.
Just make sure you DO NOT click your own adds. And with Kontera don't even run your cursor over them as sometimes this can glitch and think it's a click.
packerpack, you have to be logged out to see the adds..
LG, that's great. I think that Kontera seems to have more clicks than Adsense, but I believe that you can potentially earn much more on Adsense than Kontera in the long run. I think that because Kontera is in the text versus to the side, people click (whether on accident or not) the Kontera links easier than the Adsense, but the revenue per click is very little in comparison to Adsense. If I earned in Kontera per click what I do in Adsense, I'd reach payout very quickly each month, versus it being every 2-3 months or so.
Yes Whitney05, I have done that so many number of times but have not been able to see ads even once. But the good thing is that I am earning out of it as their reports shows. I guess they do not show the ads always. Maybe because when compared to Adsense the collection of ads with Kontera maybe very less and hence Kontera may not be showing ads always like Adsense do!
When you get a Hub that works with Kontera, they really work well. At least that's been my experience. I don't get the sustained income I get with AdSense from them, but when my Kontera's hot, it's a nice chunk of change.
Well hey, each to his own!
A week or so ago I'd had nothign at all from Amazon, suddenly there are 6 ordered items. Not sure exactly when it happened, because I don't check all that often. It's nice, anyway!
I've made a lot more on my Adsense than my Kontera.
Yesterday for example
6000 impressions on Kontera, made $0.43 with 36 clicks
6000 impressions on Adsense, made $9.83 with 11 clicks
I do still use Kontera, probably because it costs me no money or time to implement it on my hubs. That and I'm hoping one day I'll check it and it will have magically turned into loads of money!
If you want to increase your adsense earnings per click, you should go to your adsense account and block the commonly low paying advertisers: (competitive ad filters)
Im going to look for list.,,brb..
those are some...but use google to find more "adsense blacklist"
howto use filters
http://www.amitbhawani.com/blog/google- … -ads-list/
i did a bunch of reserach and now my average pay per click is 35-50 cents instead of 3-5 cents
Yes thanks sunforged. I've suddenly been getting quite a few 2 and 3 cent paying clicks so will definitely be checking this out.
The main factor of course is the ads that are generated by your content - I checked out one of your hubs -one that Insurance in the title so i would expect a high paying ads and clicks
Your sidebar module had all Insurance - i clicked through on Kaiser becaus ethey looked so dang interesting and I wanted to use my seo toolbar on there page BUT your internal adsense module had ads for mypens, cricket phones and a freebie site - dont know why- but they would all be pretty low paying ads
Im not an adsense master, but the real trick to high payouts is having content that attracts the highest paying advertisers - the competitive ad filters can actually hinder some content producers ...but you will figure that out just fine with a little research
Great, hope they were dang interesting! No clicks there for me though on my adsense account so Hubpages must have got that one!
Actually, right after having spoken about 2 and 3 cent clicks I found that yesterday my lowest paying click for the day was 40 cents. Maybe the Google Gods were listening??
Meanwhile I've just done some research on the competitive ad filters and low paying advertisers but it seems that you could do more harm than good unless you really know which are the low paying ones, and from what I've read so far that seems to be deducible only by a matter of trial and error.
Back to the Kontera vs adsense question - I've only just added Kontera and no clicks so far (but it's only been on for 24 hours so very early days).
Personally my Kontera clickthrough is pitiful-and my daily traffic across my network of sites and blogs that includes Kontera is in the multiple thousands of impressions- yet I make approx 5% of what I make in adsense....I dont think people are attracted to them-especially when that annoying little preview window comes up when you hover over.
I wouldnt be concerned as long as your Kontera dashboard is showing daily impressions, I would forget about them for a couple of months
My Kontera clicks on HP are also in the few cents, but I regularly get 90c to 1.20 with Searchwarp.
this is true "unless you really know which are the low paying ones," ...but its not that hard to find 10-20 that are def very low paying
these have proven to be low paying
Kinda can see a theme - ( this a-d of my own filters)
Sunforged, Thanks for the hints. I usually do pretty good, form 0.55 to 1.25 per click. I also find, to write a few hubs on higher paying topics helps too. I just need more traffic. I do good on clicks per traffic, I just would like the 6000 traffic that other mentioned.
Also, can you have Kentera and Adsense on the same hub... is this legal?
One thing about Kontera is that they have really good customer service. I have seen these people bend over backwards to help me with issues.
If you have a problem or question, e-mail them and they will help you.
Thats the main reason I use them, they try very hard.
As opposed to *another* company that you have to use the Ark of the Covenant to contact.
Just a warning that I believe that it is against Google's terms and conditions to publish Adsense account information. I may be wrong but that is what I am led to believe.
It may be possibly be against TOS to post a screenshot of your actual earning from their ad console but discussing general earning and volume per month and click ratios, is just called business - or "shop talk"
Thanks for the laugh, Ill remember big brother is always watching
but yes you are right:
5. Do not disclose confidential information about your account like the CTR, CPM and income derived via individual ad units or any other confidential information they may reveal to you. However, you may reveal the total money you make as per recent updates to the TOS.
the key word being individual adsense unit
what is allowed:
directly from adsense TOS -
However, You may accurately disclose the amount of Google’s gross payments to You pursuant to the Program
I had registered with Google adsense much before I joined HubPages and already have made payouts. But I joined Kontera only after joined HubPages. I have not reached payout with Kontera so far.
The trick with Kontera is you have to have a really hot hub (lots of traffic) and really good keywords in the text.
My personal best was $168 from one Hub with Kontera in one month.
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