Keep Hitting Duplicate Content Filter

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   EricDockettposted 10 years ago

   Over the past couple of months I've been slowly reorganizing my content by niche. This means moving Hubs from one subdomain to another, as well as moving content from elsewhere on the web to HubPages.  More often than not, each time I try to move a Hub I trigger the darn duplicate content filter.
   
   This is despite:
   
   1. Checking with Copyscape to make sure there are no unauthorized copies floating around out there.
   2. Checking again by sentences with quotes and without quotes to make double sure there are no copies Copyscape missed.
   3. Using the Google and Bing removal tools to deindex the original url.
   4. Checking again a couple of days later to make sure the original is gone from the SERPs
   4. Waiting several days, sometimes up to a week, for HubPages cache to clear.
   5. Checking once again before republishing to make sure no other copies have popped up. 
   
   Each time this has happened I've emailed HP staff and they have been very kind and helpful.  However, I feel like I'm constantly bugging them when they surely have better things to do, or that constantly tripping the duplicate filter will end up in my accounts getting banned.
   
   I'm very frustrated, and I have to be doing something wrong.  Somehow I feel like it might be tied into using the tools to de-index the Hubs instead of waiting for search engines to re-crawl them.  Anyone have any ideas?

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      Cardisaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I find that the best way to move content immediately without any problems is removing the URL from search using Webmaster tools. It worked for me on several occasions.

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         EricDockettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         That's #3 on my list above.

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      GavinPlotposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I have the same issue. Some time ago, I made a lens for Squidoo and it was accepted. One day later I decided to remove the lens because It prefered to post the information on Hubpages. So I removed it from Squidoo, asked Google to remove the cache, which Google had done one day later. Then after some time I started a hub on Hubpages and added the information that I hade prepared. I was rejected by Hubpages depsite the fact that the information was nowhere to be found on Google. So, it was definitely unique content. I seriously doubt the quality of the duplicate content detection software of Hubpages.

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   relacheposted 10 years ago

   This site has never accommodated moving content around.  However, I've moved material between accounts without ever hitting the duplicate content filters.  My process is more streamlined than yours (no Copyscape, no Bing, less redundant checking).
   
   Do you unpublish your Hubs for any period of time before you deindex them or start moving them?

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      EricDockettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I used to give them a couple days after they disappeared from the SERPs before I republished, as per HP's learning center entry.  Now I usually tack on an extra day or two just in case, but still hit the filter. 
      
      Note: I tried to publish yesterday and hit the filter.  I fiddled around making some edits and waited, thinking maybe I hadn't waited long enough to republish.  As of late this morning I still had the warning on my Hub  So, I made this thread, went and had lunch, and came back, and my Hub is now apparently clear.
      
      Whether that means I wasn't patient enough by 49 minutes, or that a kind soul at HP put 2 and 2 together and freed my Hub, I don't know.

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   The Examiner-1posted 10 years ago

   Why do you feel this way? Do they keep going back to where they were before? Why do not publish the Hubs when you feel they are safe and see whether you get any remarks or warnings?

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      EricDockettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I'm sorry, I'm not really clear on what you are asking.  I have been publishing when it seems like they ought not to hit the filter.  They do get remarks and warnings.  I email HP staff and they help, but I don't want to keep bothering them if there is something I could be doing smarter myself.

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         The Examiner-1posted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Never mind the questions. Can you correct the remarks and warnings without emailing them? I only had a problem with one of my remark/warnings and it was a flaw because it did not go away when I had corrected it.

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            EricDockettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Well, I guess rewriting the Hub would fix the warning, but that's kind of missing the point.  It's hard to know if a warning will self-correct without really understanding how HP's duplicate content system works.  It seems like it is only updated at certain intervals, so just because something is gone from Google's index doesn't mean it has cleared HP's system yet. 
            
            So getting the warning to go away in some cases may be just a matter of being patient.  Or I may be totally missing something.  Or there could be an error like you experienced.  Without knowing exactly what triggered the warning it's hard to know if it will go away without emailing HP.

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               The Examiner-1posted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Yes, it is doing what you can and being patient.

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   Robinposted 10 years ago

   When you move content from another site to HubPages, the dupe checker usually only needs two days.  HubPages fingerprints Hubs, so the time needed to move content from one subdomain to another takes longer.  We recommend leaving a Hub unpublished for at least a week to eliminate the possibility that the dupe checker doesn't get in your way.  Thanks! 

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      EricDockettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you so much, Robin.  That's exactly the info I needed, and makes it a little more clear why I was having issues.

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   Robinposted 10 years ago

   Sorry it's been an inconvenience! 

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      EricDockettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      No big deal.  I'm just too impatient sometimes.  I appreciate your help.

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   relacheposted 10 years ago

   I'll second what Robin said.  I unpublish Hubs for at least a week before beginning the rest of the moving process.

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   Rebecca Furtadoposted 10 years ago

   I am still very confused about some of Hubs policies. I read people are moving hubs around and blogs from other sites, yet when I ask about these things I get cut and pasted responses from the team. Really, I have been on hub for years trying to make my way through the never ending shift of policies. Yes , I can read, but then I read that people are doing things I would like to do and having a different outcome.
   I wrote asking about moving content before I did it. For my efforts even now when I am trying to update already published hub I am getting the threatening this will have to be reviewed by the moderator before it can be published. Yes , I must do a better job or searching for content that may be elsewhere but even when i have completely revamped content it comes up as duplicate. Then there is the case of a previously featured article on another hub that move it from being substandard. One my beg to know why it was not substandard on the other
   Then there is the inappropriate content (very scary) seriously on an article about comprehensive sex education. I wonder how far this policy has gone. I have not surfed around the site to find out where articles about GLBT issues and transgender ed issues have gone, but I am going to be interested to find out. I understand the advertising being disabled because of detecting certain words, but should not a human look at the context of the usage to decide if it is really inappropriate?
   Thing is I had a hub here for a very long time that have well over 10,000 page views and never saw one penny from it. So I have tried to up my game , improve my editing and am still hitting the policy road blocks. I spend hours redoing hubs, literally days only to find I can not publish them. Then I get back cut and pasted answers out of the FAQ section of the site. Seems to me since Hub makes money off writers even when they do not , they should have a little more consideration for us.  I stay because I like the publishing platform, and hope someday to actually make at least a dollar. I was trying not to reinvent the wheel and use material I think I could make work better on Hub then some other sites I have been using.  I have low vision and using Yahoo Voices to lay out any kind of visually appealing layout for articles is nearly impossible. Just my rant about duplicate content, guess I will just reinvent the wheel, and hopefully stop getting duplicate alerts when I do. I really did rewrite one article they are saying is duplicate. It probably is more too similar. Now figuring out how to write in a completely different style than my normal style will be a challange.

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