Google just released what it is calling "Panda4.0", a new addition to its formula for ranking content on webpages. If you have noticed a significant change (up or down) in traffic to your Hubs today, this may be why. Check your rankings on search engine results for your targeted keywords and see if your rankings have changed.
The announcement was made on Twitter. Here's a short explanation:
If you don't know what Panda is, see my Hub (#2 on the photo slider on my Profile).
No wonder. Happy days are here again. The last 2 months my traffic plunged to 50%. Since last 2 days, traffic surged back. Now I am on track again.
I'm glad this worked in your favor. This is the long-promised "kinder and gentler" Panda which is supposed to give some relief to smaller websites and small businesses.
Simultaneously, another algorithm update was made which targets spam search queries like "payday loans." So, some people may need to reconsider the keywords they are targeting.
Mine also plunged 50%. It had been a good couple of months. Thanks for letting us know Writer Fox.
Welp, looks like I found one of my main issues. I was heavily linked to by Ask.com; I had no idea that, in all, I had over 1,000 links. I also didn't like that a spammy site was contributing to them too (perhaps to rank higher by way of sabotage?). I never did much backlinking to them because I wanted to save that for much later. But I'm fairly sure that these are the main reasons I lost traffic. Guess I better try to attempt to clean that nasty mess up for the better of my hubs
Links were not targeted in the Panda update, but an update to the Penguin algorithm is expected sometime soon since there hasn't been one in a year. If you actually got a lot of traffic from links on ask.com, that site lost 50% visibility for keywords according to the searchmetrics.com data and there is nothing you can do to regain traffic from that particular source.
Glad to hear this. I just did a search and found that I have over 17,964 links to my sub-domain(s). At this point I do not know if this is a good or bad thing.
It's not that I received traffic through there; just that I had many links pointing to me from there. I mean, I'm not sure what I'd have gotten knocked down for unless it was due to links that are pointing at me (most of which I did not do), or the amazon capsules that I had. I guess I'll have to keep looking around.
You know, I must have a really bad sense of timing. I have been here for almost 2 1/2 years, and every time I just get going good, another Google update smacks me waaaayyy back down! For the past two months views and CPMs have been doing really well...for the past three days, it's been heaven...now this! I hope the other shoe does not drop again, but boy do you have me nervous! How soon will I know, do you think?
My traffic have dropped but now, some of my hubs are gaining more traffic than before. This update is great! lol
NOT AGAIN!!!!! Groaaaannn!!!! UGH!! Damn Google, anyway! Why can't they leave things alone instead of $&#$ with everyone??!!
No change here, either falling or rising. Just plugging along the same as the past few months.
The Panda Update just started 16 hours ago and it will take about ten days to completely update the index. Some people have noticed significant changes in the past few hours; for others, the results will not be noticeable for several more days.
Mine is increasing too in the last two days. The performance today is A-ok. I hope that thing never blows up paradigmsearch. Heheh!
Thanks for that update, Writer Fox. My traffic plunged by 50% overnight and I was wondering why.
This is not going well for me at all, my hubs are hitting rock bottom again after rising to high traffic numbers. I have checked my rankings and dropped by 3 to 4 places for some of my hubs. I used to be second for one search query in the rankings and now I am sixth.
I am very frustrated because my hubs answer the searchers question or query exactly and I always try to write high-quality hubs, going past 1500 words. My traffic was too good to be true I guess.
It's already hurt many sites which I monitor. Within a week or two we will know more about this algorithm and more specifics about the changes which it made. I wouldn't change anything about your Hubs right now until we have more data and feedback from webmasters.
I too have lost 50% of my traffic- the first time I've been hit yet. I've done quite the opposite, and began MAKING changes. Now, it is a very good idea not too; however, the changes I'm making can only help rather than hurt (like removing every single amazon capsule I have). I'm also thinning out internal SEO, as many are speculating that this could be a problem as well. Whether or not this is a factor, I could always return the links later on. I'll report if I have any positive changes. I'm not expecting any, but hopefully it's only temporary. My traffic began to plummet Monday, with Tuesday's reporting reflecting a hit. I've been trying to find answers ever since. I've only got 3 different factors I can attribute to my drop- and I'll be watching for improvements closely.
Thanks, Writer Fox. I haven't been following Google's updates at all, but had noticed first a dip last week, then a surge, all suggesting systematic data gathering, so I appreciate the heads-up. I also noticed a huge performance difference between my editor's choice hubs and my subdomains.
I view early Panda surges with dread - the more dramatic, the scarier.
What I hate about any online model is its over-reliance on Search traffic. Best solution is to build your own loyal community online.
Many use to mention things about the Keyword Densities/Anchors/Back links and stuff (but mostly about On-Page SEO) are more related with this update. Plus I heard that sites with thin content are getting hit with this one in a bad way. But I guess we just can't be sure about anything coz most of the sites will be doing the 'Google Dance' until the update is fully executed... Sometimes we hubbers will feel somewhat secure thanks to HubPages' domain authority... (I have no idea what I just wrote! lol)
One of my blogs is now doing much better, something I first noticed yesterday, but another has suffered a dip today. I guess I have to wait and see how this plays out.
Thanks for letting us know - I had wondered what was happening with traffic. I seem to have been in a struggle for months / years even. Each slow step forward gets hammered again a few months down the line.
My best hub which has over 25,000 views and was ranked on first page has dropped down today to 30% of it's normal views. When I searched it with keywords in google it was on page 4 now. Not kinder to me I guess!
We started to see a site wide increase of about 7 - 8% starting on the weekend. Perhaps that was the spam algo update.
When Google announced the Panda update yesterday, it didn't seem to have site wide impact, but there is always the normal some pages go up and others go down.
From what I've read, they're still working on Panda - it's unclear if this is the softer Panda or setting the groundwork for the softer Panda.
As I mentioned above, this is the long-promised "kinder and gentler" Panda. It's designed to increase rankings of smaller websites and companies, which HubPages is not.
HubPages' real time unique views at this moment, according to Quantcast, are down to about 3,600 from about 5,600 before the Panda Update. Squidoo is down to about 1,300.
Thanks for keeping us updated with this sort of thing Writer Fox. It really is useful. My traffic has increased substantially over the past couple of weeks, but today is the same as yesterday (and a bit down on what it was a few days ago). So seems to have had no effect so far. As you say though we need to wait till next weekend to be sure.
Thanks Writer Fox. My traffic looks slightly above normal today, so no negative effect on my Hubs.
I like HP, but I am getting so sick to death of the "Big G" messing about with stuff, and usually fouling things up for legitimate writers in its impossible quest to weed out "poor content," that Google itself may ultimately become responsible for the death of sites such as this, when enough people get fed up and leave.
My traffic plummeted to unusually low levels on Sunday, but was back to normal on Monday, and has been ever since. Just a coincidence, perhaps.
We're seeing a rise on the other website I contribute to, so it could well be a positive update for small sites.
The QC real time data is report must be wrong. HubPages and Squidoo are both up. The QC previous day chart shows a more accurate picture.
6,024 unique visitors
28 page views per second
All is well.
I just looked again and it shows over 5,800. I was about to panic. It looks so far like the algorithm affects Hubs individually, not entire subdomains and not the entire site.
Does anyone have information on recent changes in rankings for EC Hubs?
(For people who don't know, you can check the average rankings of your Hubs for search terms by using your account at Google Webmaster Tools.)
I am totally lost. I don't know know anything about ranking but want to figure it out. Help?
Woah, thanks for the heads up about Webmaster Tools
Thanks, I didn't know that about Webmaster Tools, going to start using that feature.
And as for me, I'm perpetrating:
active users on site
So far fingers crossed, rabbits foot held, and salt over the left shoulder.....mine is up! lol!
Mine is up a bit, so I'm optimistic. My website is being rated much better too.
We will have more EC data over the next few days, but the early data looks like they increased on average.
One of my hubs has got demoted by a few places on SERP. My websites haven't been affected yet. Fingers crossed.
My traffic is slowly going up. Looks like it will be a pleasant doldrums
Website eBay was hit hard by Pando 4.0 Go read the article here and look at eBay's attempt to get traffic from AdWords campaign for 'vomit' and 'severed heads.'
I think it is excellent news that eBay will no longer be hogging so many top spots. More room on first pages for hubs.
Ebay also got hacked badly two weeks ago. It's going to affect the income and identities of a lot of people.
I'm suddenly getting less than half my typical traffic and earnings. Thanks to you, now I at least know why. Perhaps it's time to opt back into the EC program?
I'd wait until you have some responses here from people who have EC Hubs. (I opted out when it was first started, so I don't have any personally to monitor.)
Here's a list of website winners and losers with Panda 4.0:
http://blog.searchmetrics.com/us/2014/0 … google-usa
Yesterday my EC hubs had a better than typical Wednesday. (My traffic tends to hit a pattern of being lower or higher on certain days of the week.)
It is important for everyone to remember that traffic starting today through Monday will be lower for a lot of people. It's the start of Memorial Day weekend here in the United States and lots of people take weekend trips (starting today or tomorrow), go to the lake or beach and generally spend more time outside as it is the start of the summer season.
And then of course summer is usually a bit slower anyway for the reasons listed above.
Overall though, I think there is a slight uptick in EC.
Maybe it's because I don't get thousands of views per day, but I rarely see any difference in my traffic from these Google updates. Today seems like a normal traffic day for me.
After nothing but bad news for an extended period, the early signs after this update are looking good for HubPages and Squidoo...
That's a good point about this weekend being a holiday. Traffic slows down on holidays and seasonally it decreases as Summer approaches.
I've had the opportunity to look at several sites off of HubPages that have had Panda issues. Few are doing better than HP as a whole, but there are things we can do better that we are working on.
A search on "how to make litmus paper" which I ranked 2nd (before) shows that I now rank 8th for that query now. That was one a sustainable source of traffic for me and now it's gone...
I wonder if I will ever reclaim my place like before, but it seems that the rankings have really mixed up with this new update. I have seen many new websites emerge which were usually in the depths of the 3rd or 4th pages in the rankings before this update.
I don't know why, but I decided to check your rank. You are the 1st entry on Google for page 2 for me and #8 for my search on "How to make litmus paper" is Yahoo Answers. I wonder if when we search for our own articles, Google shows it higher for us than it is for someone who is not known to go to the HubPages site?
If you search on Google using the Firefox browser, your personalized results will not show. When I did this from my IP location, the Hub ranked #6.
Additionally, you can install SEO Global and check for your listings as if you were searching from specific countries. When I did that, these are the rankings for the Hub using the search phrase without quotation marks:
Because Chrome is owned by Google, it will display personalized results based upon your search history unless you opt out of personalized search.
Thanks for the analysis Marie and Writer Fox. I guess it just proves that there is no first page of Google anymore because it depends highly on location and personalised search history. I used to be 2nd, now 12th in the US. Oh well, hopefully the rankings will settle a bit after a couple of weeks.
OK now it's getting really weird, even for a Friday. All these hubs I thought were not going to be successful now show lovely red arrows and some of my better hubs have reduced traffic significantly. All up, I am still ahead from last week, but can't make head or tail of any pattern just yet.
Is it possible for my entire account to be blacklisted? I have 11 down blue arrows and have lost 50% of my total views for all hubs already.
Yes, it is possible. I know because this has happened to me twice! Not all articles will be penalized in most cases, but overall, if your articles are taking a hit, it will hurt and it can take quite awhile to come back from something like this.
My traffic is up but, more importantly, I FINALLY hit #1 for 4 out of 6 targeted kws - after 3 years!! The sites in front of me (that are now #2 and #3) weren't spam, but they didn't provide as much valuable info ... so yea!!
(and, yes - I do know how to log out of G)
by StormsHalted 8 years ago
After the alleged Google alogrithim update probably after 10 December my traffic has fallen drastically from more then 150 views per day to 50. Traffic was steadily rising but after 10 dec it suddenly plunged showing no signs of recovery. (hubs have remained unchanged).
by Nell Rose 8 years ago
Why does our hub traffic drop so dramatically when they do a Panda update?Can someone explain exactly what happens in simple terms and why? thanks!
by SpaceShanty 7 years ago
All my views are way down, how is everyone else doing?
by Paul Edmondson 8 years ago
Google announced an upcoming Panda release for this Friday or Monday. We will be watching.
by Ultimate Hubber 8 years ago
Best hubpages alternative after the panda update?Since hp was hit hard by the panda update. So any good alternative?
by Mike Dale 9 years ago
Google's latest update was more than just EMD's.Welcome to Panda update 20."Google has confirmed with us that on Thursday, September 27th, they released a Panda algorithm update – this would be the 20th Panda update and thus we are naming it Panda 20. This is a fairly major Panda update that...
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