Everyone has been wondering why the numbers are so up and down with Hubs. Google JUST announced its latest Panda rollout. It's already begun!
Here's the link to the Search Engine Land Article
I had noticed a drop at the beginning of the week. My problem appears to be keyword density because when I reduced it, there was an immediate recovery.
An immediate recovery would not indicate a hit from Panda. If a site gets penalized from a Panda update, it takes a while to recover, often not until the next update.
Thanks for the correction - probably was just a coincidence that it happened at the same time.
The older I get the less I believe in coincidence. Let's take a step back and look at this from a longer perspective. Over the last say two months, many content sharing sites have tanked, traffic is nuts, and now a new Panda update coincides with stats being down for over 24 hours. These things are all connected and I would bet the bank there's an iceberg worth of stuff going on no one is talking about while the writers flap in the wind. I'd bet that's purposeful too.
Someone looking to write the next best seller would start connecting all those little dots... I'm thinking I need better detective skills.
Surely the dots are already connected?
It is a well-known fact that way back in 2011 when the first Panda was introduced, Google declared war on content farms. Usually we have to guess what they're doing: but they actually announced that one! They also made it clear that their definition of content farms was far wider than ours: it included all sites hosting articles on multiple subjects by multiple writers. Google has never changed that stance, and has continued to tweak its algorithm to win the "war". This is just the latest assault.
Since all rev-sharing sites rely largely on Google for traffic, it's a wonder that many of them lasted as long as they did: the writing on the wall has been there for a long time.
HubPages and Squidoo both attempted to avoid the war by splitting their sites into sub-domains, because Google judges each sub-domain separately. That definitely worked on HubPages because when the sub-domains were introduced, some sub-domains became very successful whereas others bombed - demonstrating they were each receiving individual treatment from Google. I can't speak for whether it worked for Squidoo.
I think it was working for some sub-domains on Squidoo and not others, much like here. I was not aware they were going after all content sharing sites so hard but I do believe what you say.
It brings many questions to mind that are all disturbing. First and foremost from a HP perspective, it makes one seriously question the future viability of the site no matter what the site does.
Secondly, and more concerning, it brings to mind the question of too much power. It brings censorship to a whole new global level in a very subtle, yet real way. While I found the information provided in your comment enlightening, it's depressing beyond measure.
When you say it worked for some sub-domains on Squidoo and not for others, you're confirming what I say. The sub-domains that did well were liked by Google. The sub-domains that did not do well were disliked by Google, for whatever reason.
Thank you for the link, much. It does confirm what you say but only to a point. Some of those that were doing really well on Squidoo are not here. What was liked by Google just a few weeks ago now is not. Some have mentioned too many 301 redirects being the problem and maybe it is a contributing factor. Regardless, a lot of good writers are seeing virtually no traffic, through no fault of their own and now left guessing at what to do about it to please some virtual computer algorithm. What's wrong with this picture couldn't be covered in a five hundred page text.
There have been TWO Google Panda updates since the transfer to HubPages was announced, and both or either of those could have affected Squidoo sub-domains just as much as HubPages sub-domains, either negatively or positively.
A sub-domain or website can go up and down in Google's estimation because they are constantly updating the algorithm to improve it (which just goes to show that they know it's imperfect).
Nope. Only one. And it will still be rolling out through much of next week.
I know the latest one is still going. Has everyone decided that the August 8th one was a phantom, then?
http://searchengineland.com/google-comm … end-200179
Marisa, that article is from 2011. It just isn't the case anymore.
Google's Matt Cutts: "Subdomains are now treated just like folders (subdirectories)."
A new subdomain on HP is no more significant than a new folder on any other website, and this has been true at least since late 2012.
http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/125162? … ost2645025
I used that post because I was replying to someone who said they hadn't heard of Google's war on content farms. Nothing to do with sub-domains.
As for how sub-domains are treated, I outline my view on that here:
http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/125277? … ost2645231
Good catch! I'm gonna go through my hubs and review them all.
MrHollywood, I like your enthusiam, but Marisa already beat you to it in this thread: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/125251
and I said:
It's like a relationship with Kung Fu Panda. It starts with fireworks, and then you get a little bang each year you are married
Misterhollywood was first 12 hours ago--Marisa 11 hours ago. Not that it matters. The main thing is, we now know what's going on.
I'll wait for the dust to settle before tinkering with any of my hubs. I also need to know exactly what's 'wrong' before making any changes.
Hmmm I stand corrected!
One thing Google always loves is long, original and creative content. If you are creating that, then keep going. If you are creating product hubs, wait for the dust to settle. Hoping all this will turn out OK for all of us
As far as my hubs are concerned, I'm hoping it's just a question of holding tight and letting it pass. Time will tell.
I posted this in the other Panda thread. It's about an older update, but I find it helpful. http://www.seochat.com/c/a/google-optim … whats-new/
Thanks for posting in the forum misterhollywood. I am new to the game.
Thanks for the heads up. Too bad the article is vague on just how the filter effects thin or poorly written articles.
Thanks for the post. We just keep learning what we need to do to respond to Google's perception of what searchers want. These updates may be a little frustrating but consider an internet overpowered by spammers and black hat operators. I appreciate Google's policing of content.
Someone please let us know what impact this google change will have on our hub traffic and how to compensate. Something is always changing!
"a filter designed to penalize “thin” or poor content from ranking well"
Does that mean eHow will now disappear from the first page of my search results? Please?
I hope that master google will still send a few readers our way. I like writing, but it is really nice when someone reads the Hub.
Thank goodness you are here to see us through this time. LOL
Thanks for the link. I'll have to have a look see at the content I have posted already.
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