Anybody here written a worthy ebola hub?

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   paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

   I did a search already. If you've written an ebola hub that you are constantly updating as new news comes along, I'd like to link to it. Drop me a note via my profile if you are interested.

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      Barbara Kayposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      If you type ebola in the search bar here, there are so many articles listed that I'd just forget that one.

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         paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Agreed.
         
         This is for my main website; I'm currently on an Ebola rampage there.
         
         I'm updating it daily and it is starting to get more and more daily traffic. I was just looking for a good hub link I could include there. The link would be in good company along with other links to the likes of the CDC, etc.

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            Solarasposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Luis Gonzalez has one he shared this morning

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            The Examiner-1posted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Did you hear not to worry about it unless you, personally, have been warned? It does not seem affect too many others. The traveler from Africa affected 1 other person in the hospital. The traveler died and the other worker is doing well and is going to recover.

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               Solarasposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               Did you hear how the hospital staff did not follow many Quarantine protocols.  The sheets from the Liberian that were covered with the projectile vomit fluids he was spewing around the room were piled up in another room up to the ceiling.  His blood samples were sent through the pneumatic tubes to the labs where everyone else's samples are sent.
               
               Staff did not wear foot coverings when in his room with all of the vomit, then went off to visit other patients in the hospital carrying his fluids on their shoes around the hospital.  He himself sat in the open emergency room for and hour or so twice.
               
               A second nurse has the virus, and while sick and feverish got on an airplane and flew from Cleveland to Dallas.  She even called the CDC to inform them of her fever, and no one there told her not to get on the flight.  WTF

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                  Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  My field in preventive medicine was begun in order to focus on just such types of problems, but the discipline was folded into Public Health and lost emphasis, imo. Things are very wrong now, as you have pointed out to us.
                  We have many CDC people now in Ohio. That plane made 3 additional flights before it was decontaminated. How thorough that was, I have no idea.

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                  The Examiner-1posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Eew, at least nobody else got it.

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                     Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     +1

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                  lisavollrathposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  I live in the DFW metroplex, and have friends who work at Presby, though they are mercifully in another building. There was no discussion of Ebola, and no preparation for it prior to that first patient arriving, Medical personal were not advised on how to handle the patient until after his treatment was underway. Why would there be any preparation? No hospital in the US has ever had a patient walk in with Ebola before.
                  
                  Also, this hospital is not set up for bio-containment. The correct thing would have been for the CDC to immediately send a team to insure proper precautions were followed, and to airlift the patient out to one of the four US hospitals set up for the type of containment this disease requires.

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                     SmartAndFunposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     I totally agree. I think because Mr. Duncan's was the first U.S.A. case, it would have unfolded in about the same way at many hospitals around the country.

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                     Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     I just saw that all 4 designated hospitals for Ebola containment/treatment can hold only 9 patients altogether in Nebraska, Montana, Maryland (NIH), and Georgia (Emery).
                     
                     My Midwestern city health department head announced on TV last night that Cols OH has everything needed to treat Ebola, but that is not correct.
                     
                     We also have only an isolation unit, and no Level-4 Containment. Then, a woman here called 911 with a report of faked Ebola symptoms and a fake trip to West Africa, all in order to gain faster treatment for an undisclosed illness.

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                     Solarasposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     Agreed - the CDC just phoned it in, and totally fell down on the job.  They continue to.  I don't know who is running the ship over there, but there needs to be a massive shake-up. Shameful that they did not go out there and teach not only Presbyterian, but all area hospitals proper protocol.

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                        Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                        I agree. Their publicized stance recently is that they cannot tell the states and the hospitals in them what to do. They cannot be much help with that attitude.

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                           Solarasposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                           If they can't, then who do they think is supposed to do it?

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                              Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                              I think they are taking the "not my job" stance.

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                                 RTalloniposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                 Maybe not so much "not my job" but more like a long-term move to gain more federal control over states.  Any excuse by the agency is rooted in weaseling out of responsibility in the face of the fact that hospitals would try to take CDC advice, but issues about who's going to pay for it are part of the contention.

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                                    Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                    Those are definitely possibilities. Thanks for the reminders.

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                           psycheskinnerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                           It's not an attitude it is a legal fact. They have zero power other than to advise.  What do you expect, that they storm the hospitals with weapons and make them comply by illegal force? They issued protocols, the hospital chose not to follow them.

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                              Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                              That's right, CDC is advisory, except in the case of federal quarantines and some cases of importing human remains. The states, local communities, and tribal groups have the legal authority to follow CDC protocols or not. CDC has little legal authority --
                              
                              "Under 42 Code of Federal Regulations parts 70 and 71, CDC is authorized to detain, medically examine, and release persons arriving into the United States and traveling between states who are suspected of carrying these communicable diseases.
                              
                              As part of its federal authority, CDC routinely monitors persons arriving at U.S. land border crossings and passengers and crew arriving at U.S. ports of entry for signs or symptoms of  communicable diseases.
                              
                              When alerted about an ill passenger or crew  member by the pilot of a plane or captain of a ship, CDC may detain passengers and crew as  necessary to investigate whether the cause of the illness on board is a communicable disease."
                              
                              ENFORCEMENT
                              
                              "If a quarantinable disease is suspected or identified, CDC may issue a federal isolation or quarantine order.
                              
                              Public health authorities at the federal, state, local, and tribal levels may sometimes seek help from police or other law enforcement officers to enforce a public health order. 
                              
                              U.S. Customs and Border Protection and U.S. Coast Guard officers are authorized to help enforce federal quarantine orders.
                              
                              Breaking a federal quarantine order is punishable by fines and imprisonment.
                              
                              Federal law allows the conditional release of persons from quarantine if they comply with medical monitoring and surveillance." -- From cdc DOT gov/quarantine/aboutlawsregulationsquarantineisolation.html
                              
                              Under current law, I understand the only way CDC could storm hospitals is by, perhaps, mass quarantines with the permitted assistance of local law enforcement, Border Patrol and Coast Guard. Sounds like a movie.
                              
                              The attitude I want to see change is this: I would like to see the CDC campaign for a little more legal authority, specifically in the enforcement of protocols for extremely contagious often-fatal diseases. I don't expect that to happen easily or at all.

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            Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I'm following your website now. This topic interests me a lot.

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   SmartAndFunposted 8 years ago

   Hey Para, you might like the one by Long Time Mother. It is at the top of her hub list on her profile page.

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   Solarasposted 8 years ago

   I guess my point is, we should not have to worry about an epidemic, but if people are too ignorant or lazy to follow protocols, we will have one.

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   calculus-geometryposted 8 years ago

   http://kalafina.hubpages.com/hub/giant- … -real-deal
   
   My definition of worthy may diverge from the norm.

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      SmartAndFunposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      A little E. coli or whooping cough would be the perfect Christmas gift for my daughter's a-hole band director. Love it!

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         Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Wowee wow wow! as Christopher Walken used to say on SNL.
         
         It would indeed be a bad trip to have whooping cough as an adult - I had it twice, coz the vaccination wore off. Second time was not so bad - more annoying, really.

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            SmartAndFunposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            LOL, well, I don't mean the real thing -- I mean one of those toys featured in that article. They would make the perfect gag gift to let someone know just how much you like (or don't like) them. I love a great gag gift! I don't think I would have the heart to give anyone the Ebola toy, though. I would stick to E. Coli or something along those lines.

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               Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               Use a whooping cough toy. Cough cough wheeeeeeeeeze.

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   Mark Ewbieposted 8 years ago

   I wrote a blog post called Ebola Gags.  Does that count?

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      Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You should have a big place like The Disney Store, filled with all your stuff!

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         Mark Ewbieposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         An ideal combination to balance the sweet and sugary hell that is the Disney Store

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            Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Right you are!

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      paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      It just might.

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   RTalloniposted 8 years ago

   People need to continue having public discussions on the topic re the issues of prevention, responsibility, how to respond at the polls, and more.  I hear a finance guy is now the czar of ebola--laughable, but the move is not surprising.  He stands with those who wouldn't close borders. Gaps he lacks in knowledge can be filled in by the CDC, etc. who've done such a superb job on this little matter.  There's lots to write about and discus...

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      robertzimmerman2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Actually Ron Klain was the guy who organized Al Gore's legal challenge to the 2000 election in Florida. Using unconstitutional tactics. He's just a very astute Democratic Party Operative and certainly not a medical professional.
      
      It's the President's call so he will have to live with it, but making bad decisions has not bothered him much in the past.

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   clivewilliamsposted 8 years ago

   Ebola, premola, zebola. Too much ebola i cant stand it. Everyone is trending ebola. The governments talk ebola, social networks talk ebola, Seems like ebola is the new revenue maker! and Black life taker

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      Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      It distracts from ISIS, doesn't it?

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   psycheskinnerposted 8 years ago

   The CDC doesn't have a helicopter to send, or the legal power to overrule what the hospital chose to do.
   
   IMHO the dog that was taken by animal control is probably getting better quarantine because the shelter will proactively seek and follow CDC advice.

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      Solarasposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I can't imagine what hospital administrator would spit in the eye of the CDC, and overrule their recommended protocols.  They don't want to get infected either.

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         Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         There's the rub. Some Hospital Administrators and the head of my city health department feel that they know better than the CDC, going by comments in the recent interviews on local television.

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   robertzimmerman2posted 8 years ago

   And the latest news is the new Ebola Czar's credentials include being the "mastermind" behind Gore's attack on the State of Florida. And yes it was an attack, check your Constitutional law before getting upset.
   
   And the media will wonder why we would prefer someone with Medical Experience?
   
   Any Hub on this topic will sound more like Apocalyptic SCI-FI than informational.

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      LuisEGonzalezposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      My hub is meant to inform and calm some who may be prone to panicking....like my mother. But I also agree with you...it can get out of hand quickly and some may only see gloom and doom.

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    Hey, folks! I just saw your very kind Ebola comments on my website! Thank you very much!

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