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UnFeatured Hubs should be able to be excluded from search results

  1. relache profile image87
    relacheposted 3 years ago

    Those of us who are still here and who are trying to help clean up the place are finding it EXTREMELY frustrating and confusing and depressing to be wading through a ton of crap that has already been UnFeatured but which we are unable to see or know when we see this stuff in the searches.

    It's pretty clear our efforts would be radically more efficient if we didn't have UnFeatured Hubs in the internal search. 

    My solution is to suggest you add an option to the internal search so that casual searchers can choose to have UnFeatured Hubs included or removed from their search results.

    1. Millionaire Tips profile image92
      Millionaire Tipsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I like the choice of having the option.  Further, the default should be NOT seeing the unfeatured hubs.  New Hubber comes on the site, when they are browsing and looking around, should only be able to see the high quality that is expected, because otherwise, they may think that the lower quality is acceptable.

    2. colorfulone profile image84
      colorfuloneposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      +1

    3. Marcy Goodfleisch profile image96
      Marcy Goodfleischposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I agree that we don't need unfeatured hubs of poor quality to be in the searches. I don't feel they need to be here at all - they should be unpublished, and, as Sue Adams points out, perhaps given a two-week period for cleanup and then nuked.

      As for a feature to allow casual visitors to 'skip' unfeatured hubs - how would they know that's the case?  I see many problems with that idea:

      If there's a button saying "Skip Unfeatured Hubs" many viewers will not know what that means, and some might figure, hey - there's the juicy stuff! 

      Pointing out that there are 'Unfeatured' hubs would be like advertising that there's poor quality writing on the site.

      Hubs that are unfeatured due to low engagement should not be punished - I don't know exactly what those might have in them, but if they're otherwise of good quality, keep them available in some manner.

      Low quality hubs should be GONE.  Period!

      Why does the site expect us to keep our work in a place that isn't purged of junk, copied content, spam and other issues that hurt all of us. 

      This affects our reputations as writers - we need a balanced policy that respects and protects our work and also allows for revenue for the site (and its writers).  But not a policy that focuses on revenue at the expense of those who write high-quality pieces here.

  2. Marisa Wright profile image99
    Marisa Wrightposted 3 years ago

    +1

    1. CelebrateUSA profile image80
      CelebrateUSAposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Concur completely!

  3. SANJAY LAKHANPAL profile image83
    SANJAY LAKHANPALposted 3 years ago

    I agree and support this idea.

  4. LeanMan profile image89
    LeanManposted 3 years ago

    I sort of agree; but I would say that I would like those hubs that are unfeatured due to Quality to be excluded rather than those that are excluded due to engagement. There are many hubs that are excellent that are unfeatured due to engagement purely because there are just so few people searching for their subject area.

    In fact I would go one further and say that if a hub is not up to the quality standards then it should be unpublished not just unfeatured. Then it would automatically be removed from the internal search as it would "no longer exist."

    1. relache profile image87
      relacheposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I suggested an on/off option for this exact reason.  People should be able to filter out all of this stuff, or not.

      Personally, I feel it should either be published or not, and that Featuring itself was a lazy solution to low quality.

      1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image99
        TIMETRAVELER2posted 3 years agoin reply to this

        +1

        1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image99
          TIMETRAVELER2posted 3 years agoin reply to this

          I don't get this whole thing.  If I write a hub and it is not of good quality, it should simply not be permitted to be published.  Articles that are later discovered to be of poor quality should be dropped.   People can always rewrite and submit work again, so what is the point of the unfeaturing?  Articles that have poor readership can either automatically be dropped by the filters if views stay too low for a specified period of time, or the author can try to revamp them to give them another opportunity for readership or delete them themselves.

          I also think writers who come, produce one article and then disappear should have their work removed after a specified period of time.

          Additionally, keyword stuffed summaries should be part of the evaluation process so that they do not slip through the QAP and damage the site.

          1. profile image0
            calculus-geometryposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            +1
            The unfeaturing system is a pointless purgatory.  Hubs that are unfeatured for engagement should be bumped up to featured, and hubs that are unfeatured for quality should be bumped down to unpublished.   Keep it simple.

            1. wilderness profile image98
              wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

              Why is there no engagement?  Because Google (not HP - Google) finds it of low quality?  That is the reason for the system, after all...

              1. profile image0
                calculus-geometryposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                Not necessarily, sometimes hubs getting some search traffic still become unfeatured for engagement.  The system does not work perfectly.

            2. Elsie Hagley profile image66
              Elsie Hagleyposted 3 years agoin reply to this

              Agree 100%. smile

    2. Sue Adams profile image96
      Sue Adamsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I agree, keep those and show them in internal searches.



      Yes, I agree to that too. Give an unfeatured for quality hub a, say 2 week grace period in which it can be improved, then give it a final chop.
      Unpublished crap.

      1. aesta1 profile image91
        aesta1posted 3 years agoin reply to this

        The idea of giving them a grace period is good and unpublish it afterwards if it has not reached the quality expected. Hp editors can also give helpful suggestions especially for newbies to improve their hubs during the grace period.

  5. Glenn Stok profile image98
    Glenn Stokposted 3 years ago

    Another reason why hubs become unfeatured is due to keyword spamming, especially in the summary where spammers hide the stuffed keywords.

    In another forum thread we discussed helping clean up spamming by searching for common keyword spamming phrases and reporting them.  When I did this, I found a lot of them. But when I clicked to the profile of the various spammers, I discovered that non of the hubs I found in the search were listed in their profiles. That means that those hubs were already unfeatured.

    So I agree it would be a good idea to offer an option in the search to show only featured hubs, a choice the searcher can make.

 
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