VOTE NOW! Should Hub Pro Program Continue?

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   Aneegmaposted 8 years ago

   It has come to my attention that a selected few people that were subjected to the Hub Pro program were sent surveys to ask them about their experience. I haven't got that survey and I highly doubt I will get that survey so I've decided to conduct a survey of my own. For those of you that are clueless about this read these discussions:
   
   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/128409
   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/128471
   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/128501
   
   I'm really curious what the majority of hubbers actually think of this new editing venture that HP has subjected us to. Since I've lost complete trust in HP after they ruined my hubs, failed to apologize or even acknowledge my concerns, I would seriously love for you to vote so at least we can send a message to these guys that this program should not be enforced on us especially hubs that get high traffic.
   
   Simply vote YES or NO  ( and if you want to state your reasons, go ahead! )

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      Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I vote YES, because I had a good experience: editor listened to my ideas and I listened to hers; result was increase in traffic, although it fluctuates a bit for those Hubs somewhat today.
      
      I found the give and take good - some info is perfect for physics class and similar but different info is best for employment interviews, and my editor understood this after discussion. Her other additions were great.  I'm fortunate.
      
      My objection is the adding of personal stories that are not my own, unless they are GOOD stories, in which case I will add "I know a person who..." Good stories can help, just as case studies are a nice touch in scholarly articles. However, I understand Hubbers' upset feelings about stories.

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         colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         +1

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      NateB11posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I vote YES. Probably needs modification but they are already working on that. I think they have sound reasons for using it for improving quality and rank of the site.

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      moonlakeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      No...

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      TIMETRAVELER2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, I support this program, but I do think it needs some modifications in order to work correctly and successfully.

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   Marcy Goodfleischposted 8 years ago

   I vote YES - there are many good reasons to have a program like this, and the feedback in the threads here will help the staff retool that program in ways that can help everyone.
   
   I hope the staff pays attention to the suggestions about adding SEO experts, and to the other good ideas being shared (such as using the editors to purge the site of junk).

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      Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I vote YES on all that, too.

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      colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      YES!

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      janderson99posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      According to Hubpages/about the number of published pages on 23 jan  was 951,000. Today, 7 Feb, it is 933,628. So, HP is dropping about 10,000 pages a week, presumably low quality and junk pages

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         Marcy Goodfleischposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Janderson - this stat does not mean it's a weekly decline - that's just a figure for that window of time. As we know, HP began addressing content issues in January, so this might be a larger number than the overall ratio of hubs being unpublished over a longer period of time.

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            janderson99posted 8 years agoin reply to this

            It is an ongoing trend
            23 jan 951,000
            30 jan 943,906
            1 feb 941,474
            2 Feb 940,355
            6 Feb 935,993
            8 Feb 933,628

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               paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               If the quota thing holds up, this means more traffic for the rest of us.
               
               Edit. And my vote is to keep HubPro. After last Thursday's meetings, I suspect the problems will soon be fixed.

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               aesta1posted 8 years agoin reply to this

               I like to see these figures. It shows an ongoing effort to raise the quality of published articles on the net.
               
               I vote YES as well. I wish to have an editor work with me.

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         Writer Foxposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Published Hubs and featured Hubs are two different things.  As of January 31st, there were 367,893 featured Hubs on HP.

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            janderson99posted 8 years agoin reply to this

            WF Where can you see Featured hub stats?

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               Writer Foxposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               http://hubpages.com/topics/tree

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                  TIMETRAVELER2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Don't tell me you actually sit there and add all of those numbers up every day.  Really?

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                     Writer Foxposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     Nope.  Not every day.  But, there are only twenty-two main topics, so it doesn't take too long.  (I have 16 toes to count on.)
                     
                     

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                        jansharesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                        luv u

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            TIMETRAVELER2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Writer Fox:  So, what are you seeing as the trend.  I don't understand whether we are losing or gaining published hubs because you gave no comparison figures.

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               Writer Foxposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               Well, I can give you a little history.  Before the transfer of content from Squidoo which began on September 2, there were 335,638 featured Hubs. After the content was transferred, there were 452,765 featured Hubs on October 22 (a rapid influx of 117,127 Hubs).
               
               By December 27 after the first massive vetting, 75,127 Hubs were removed. By January 31st, another 9,745 had been removed which brought the featured Hub total down to 367,893.
               
               (Traffic to HP has never returned to what it was prior to the announcement on August 15th. Traffic plunged beginning on September 22nd.)

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                  Marcy Goodfleischposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  This is really useful to know, WF.  I'd be curious as to the ratio of hubs currently featured that are new content (not transferred in from elsewhere). 
                  
                  Do you know if the un-featured hubs hurt the site in any way (Google-wise)?  It's my understanding that (supposedly) they don't hurt the site or negatively affect the way Google treats the site. But I question this a bit, if there are links to those pages on various sites.  Would Google factor in the number of pages that aren't featured and calculate the value of the site based on the ratio of pages that are actually searchable.  (Does my question even make any sense?).
                  
                  By my calculations - there are not quite 10% more featured hubs on the site than there were before the transfer.  Obviously, some of these are new content (not part of the transfer).
                  
                  Since you have a handle on the stats, do you know the percentage change in traffic (up or down) from before & after the transfer?

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   janderson99posted 8 years ago

   Yes => You can opt out. HP can do what it likes to benefit and manage the site, traffic, ads and reputation, including the layout. I opted out, but I have no objection to it continuing as it may be of benefit for some authors. Not my cup of tea!

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   AliciaCposted 8 years ago

   I vote YES. I think there are valid concerns about the program that need to be addressed, but I also think that HubPro could be a valuable program and a big help to HubPages.

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      rebekahELLEposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      + Agreed.  YES.
      
      As has been stated, there is an opt out.  It has never been enforced on all hubbers as stated in the OP.

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      Susana Sposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      +1
      
      A yes here too.

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      Elsie Hagleyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I vote yes!
      Looking forward to someone helping me improve my hubs.

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   Colin Quartermainposted 8 years ago

   Yes as there is an opt out.
   
   Some mistakes might be made but the idea is to improve quality

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   Thomas Swanposted 8 years ago

   YES. You know you can opt out right? So it's not "enforced" on us, if I understand your meaning.
   
   It can be annoying when an editor makes a mistake and you have to check everything, but we're getting this for free.

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   jansharesposted 8 years ago

   My vote is conditional and based on principle. I see that some hubbers have had good experiences in addition to those who have had very bad experiences. I've never been HubPro'd so I can't speak from my own experience. I was initially open to being a part of the program and only opted out after the unfortunate Aneegma incident. For those reasons, I vote that the program be suspended for a brief period until the obvious kinks are worked out. I will remain opted out indefinitely or at least until I see a change at the next opt-in cycle.

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   Jodahposted 8 years ago

   Because of your bad experience Aneegma.."NO"
   Though if they make the necessary changes and ensure nothing is edited without consultation with the author, I may change my mind.

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      Aneegmaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks John! I can always count on ya to have my back!!
      
      I guess what I should have asked is "should hub Pro be suspended until they fix their loop holes?"
      
      Personally I don't want any part of it but we live in a democratic world so majority wins

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