What do I do when a Hubber harrasses me?

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  1. paradigmsearch profile image60
    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    I'm curious. Which side is harassing you, the religionists or the atheists? smile

    1. gmwilliams profile image84
      gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      For what I see, it is the religionists who are harassing Tessa.

      1. paradigmsearch profile image60
        paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I wish people would get along better... Oh, well. Fact of life I guess.

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        TessSchlesingerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

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        1. paradigmsearch profile image60
          paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Next time it happens, give em one of these... big_smile
          https://i.imgflip.com/11qwgs.jpg
          https://i.imgflip.com/11qwgs.jpg

        2. Brynn Thorssen profile image80
          Brynn Thorssenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I'm not sure how questioning someone about why they are always getting into arguments over a topic that stresses them out is harassing them.  I told her she must be egging them on, and this post cements my opinion.  She did, after all, post a question.  Are we supposed to use our magic Jesus ESP to know not to answer trick questions?  Because her questions MUST be trick questions, otherwise why would she post them and then delete most of the answers??

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            roobposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Christianity is something many people talk against but hate hearing about, at least that is my experience. I myself am a believer Brynn. BTW I am not answering OP's question here... I am commenting on Brynn Thorsten's answer like hubpages gives me the option too.

            1. Brynn Thorssen profile image80
              Brynn Thorssenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              I think there is a reason my grandparents' generation (depression era) always said not to talk about politics or religion "in polite company."

        3. Brynn Thorssen profile image80
          Brynn Thorssenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Would the religionist be the Muslim, Taoist or Voodoo Priestess?  Pretty sure she's not attacking believers of Ute Spirituality.  Her venom is all pointed squarely at the Christians, a group to which I do not belong.

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            TessSchlesingerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

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            1. Brynn Thorssen profile image80
              Brynn Thorssenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              This is mentally ill behavior.

          2. Austinstar profile image87
            Austinstarposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Can you not read? I SAID THAT A RELIGIONIST IS ANYONE WHO IS RELIGIOUS.
            I did not single out any religion.
            Here, let me repeat it in smaller words.
            Religionist=a person of religion - any religion on earth.

            1. Rochelle Frank profile image94
              Rochelle Frankposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              OK , that's good. I guess it excludes any of us who might have religions from beyond earth.  smile

              1. RJ Schwartz profile image84
                RJ Schwartzposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                You're fine

            2. RJ Schwartz profile image84
              RJ Schwartzposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              Actually religionist is more commonly used to identify a religious zealot although your definition is correct also.  Those of us who do not belong to an organized religion are safe...whew....

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                TessSchlesingerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

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                1. Brynn Thorssen profile image80
                  Brynn Thorssenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  So you zealously attack "religionists" for fun and then get offended when they fight back?  And I would love to know what religion I was zealously defending .... no, please.

            3. Oztinato profile image73
              Oztinatoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              It's just that all your negative comments relate solely to a stereotype of right wing back woods fundamentalists. For example the way you focus on the Bible and never mention any other scripture or any indigenous cultures whose lives are built on their own religion

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        TessSchlesingerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

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          roobposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Did we not state our opinions as answers? Are those not allowed?

          You think that we harassed you like people are harassed by the police?

          I mean the police stop ppl sometimes unjustly and the ppl can't leave. You don't have to ask those questions that will invoke a believer's response.

          The synonym is molestation. That is a million times worse than anything we said that might have been offensive because someone is physically harmed, we didn't ridicule or make fun of you. Never have and don't plan too. I took your stance very offensive that you can state but we can't and the censoring of everyone's comments very offensive. It was a one sided almost dictator like question page.

          BTW I asked you if it was me and if you say yes then I said I will leave you alone I promise. But I guess it isn't me because you won't let me know. I am just voicing my opinion here.

          Hubpages if she reports me and you read this, do you not see that I have a point or that we have a point. She kept preaching her view of atheism across the site and her question was how does an atheist talk to someone who believes in God without causing offense. She didn't want to hear the Christian message and wanted a way to say that. Isn't that hypocritical that she doesn't want to hear a Christian's honest answer but preaches her view against God? Then deletes the Christian based comments. I just feel like that is not what this site is about at all. How can people express. Doesn't that look bad to people who visit the site and see that the authors are deleting answers and comments they just don't like even though they are relevant and not harassing. I suggested maybe stop preaching your views and their views will stop being preached to you, when someone goes out against God, we believe that God will not take that lightly.

          Like I said if you really find my pure opinion and honest answer offensive and you think I am harassing you. Then say it and I will not talk to you. But if you report people without asking them or telling them they are bothering you... well that isn't fair. Because honestly I found what you did offensive, but did I report you... no because that is your opinion.

    2. Brynn Thorssen profile image80
      Brynn Thorssenposted 8 years ago

      Tess tends to post questions and then when the answers don't flow in her favor, she deletes them.  I didn't even know you could do that.  You ask questions to get a discussion going, right?  Because otherwise maybe just stick to writing hubs.

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        TessSchlesingerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

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          SonOfSkyrim201posted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Here's a tip: don't ask questions like

          "What do studies show about Atheists that Christians don't know?"

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            TessSchlesingerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

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              SonOfSkyrim201posted 8 years agoin reply to this

              It's not offensive. But clearly you can't deal with a question that provokes people into starting arguments.

            2. Oztinato profile image73
              Oztinatoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              Look you keep hammering the hate speech and insults to one particular group. It's against hub rules and commonsense and logic. Hub Rules ok?
              "Hate speech is not free speech"........Einstein. Oops I mean hate speech is not free speech,  "Einstein".

            3. Oztinato profile image73
              Oztinatoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              You keep hammering the hate speech that's the reason.

              1. Will Apse profile image91
                Will Apseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                All this hammering makes it impossible to think.

          2. Brynn Thorssen profile image80
            Brynn Thorssenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I don't think Tess got the "Don't talk about politics or religion if you want to keep the peace" memo.

        2. Brynn Thorssen profile image80
          Brynn Thorssenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Why don't you post my answer?  The one I wrote about my parents' atheist friend who didn't understand how he couldn't find a like-minded atheist girl in his local church singles group?  The one that spent pretty much every weekend at church looking for a woman and then wondered why he was having trouble finding another atheist!!  Because that is how you were and currently *are acting.

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            TessSchlesingerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

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            1. Brynn Thorssen profile image80
              Brynn Thorssenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              No, YOU said you were getting into discussions over religion everywhere you go and are deeply upset by this.  I suggested that maybe *you are doing something to provoke these discussions/arguments.  If these threads are indicative of your behavior in real life, then I'm guessing you yourself are causing a lot of the problems in your life (you've lost how many friends lately??).  But you are obviously incapable of identifying your own culpability and if there is anyone in need of introspection, it is YOU.

      2. Austinstar profile image87
        Austinstarposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Asking questions on HP is a valid income producing activity. And we sometimes get ideas for future hubs, collect data for future hubs, meet new hubbers, and maybe even learn something.
        But the religionists answering some of our questions, just get offended by the mere fact that we are "atheists" or agnostics and they start their nonsense arguments back and forth, mostly copying and pasting the same old tired religion arguments, or even copy/pasting bible verses that have nothing whatsoever to do with the question.
        The delete function exists on the Q&A section and can be used by anyone asking a question and receiving a contentious comment.
        If you don't want your comments to be deleted - DON'T ANSWER OR COMMENT WHERE YOU ARE NOT WELCOME TO DO SO! or DON'T LEAVE STUPID COMMENTS!
        it's just that simple, folks.
        Meanwhile, the owner of the question will continue to edit their content as they see fit.

        1. Brynn Thorssen profile image80
          Brynn Thorssenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Uh .... just checking but those questions are considered "public" and are open to all members of Hubpages, right?  Or am I wrong about that?  And this is so insanely absurd!  I don't even identify with any religion, and I am certainly not a Christian!  "Religionists?"  What the heckaroo is a religionist??

          1. Austinstar profile image87
            Austinstarposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Sheesh, what do you think "religionist" means? It is anyone that claims to be religious.

            1. RJ Schwartz profile image84
              RJ Schwartzposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              Are you acting as "wingman" in this argument ?

            2. Brynn Thorssen profile image80
              Brynn Thorssenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              You do realize that lumping all people of all religions into one big pile is absurd, right?  I'm sure the Navajo loved being lumped with the Jews.

        2. Oztinato profile image73
          Oztinatoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          The casual elimination of free speech (as opposed to hate speech) is a symptom of bigotry and is not conducive to a discussion. It is an indictment against a person to simply eliminate opinions they don't agree with. It isn't scientific or ethical. It is small mindedness.
          I for one have never banned a person from a hub. Hub rules dictate the removal of hate speech not free speech.

        3. Oztinato profile image73
          Oztinatoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          That validity becomes invalid when a person hammers hate speech. Check the hub rules. Hate speech is not free speech, "Einstein "

    3. paradigmsearch profile image60
      paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

      I just posted a religion/philosophy question. big_smile

      1. Jesse Drzal profile image82
        Jesse Drzalposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Ok cool I will be right over..

    4. RJ Schwartz profile image84
      RJ Schwartzposted 8 years ago

      Maybe people take offense to you personally Tesskie - like this tidbit you posted on one of my hubs only today


      I'm extremely curious to know what your education level is, if you're mentally ill, if you've ever lived and worked (or even traveled) to anywhere else in the first world. (The military doesn't count.) There is something terribly, terribly wrong with the kind of people who believe the garbage you have written

      Don't dish it unless you can take it

      1. Oztinato profile image73
        Oztinatoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        RJ
        thanks for letting us all know the truth. Of course certain people won't accept her words as anything but "free speech" when in actual fact such words are classed as hate speech/personal attacks. This is
        often followed by feigned innocence ie moi??

        1. PhoenixV profile image66
          PhoenixVposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I think I see your point.

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        roobposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Wow that is harsh RJ. I know you don't believe in God or at least that is what it seems from your posts. However I do respect you as a person.

        1. RJ Schwartz profile image84
          RJ Schwartzposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I woke up this morning to find one of my best Hubs unpublished for Hate Speech - 93 hub score and 400 views in a week, plus it was at the top of the most popular hubs on the main page for a few days.   I feel like a target is painted on my back by the censorship happy Liberals on hubpages - I guess what ever they determine can be judged as hate speech, which by the way is also known as free speech.  So someone didn't like the truth being printed and they get it banned- sounds a bit ominous of another former world leader.
          Wait until my next hub - it's gonna be a doozy

          1. paradigmsearch profile image60
            paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Was the unpublished hub the Hilary hub? I'm reading it as we speak (google cache). smile

            1. RJ Schwartz profile image84
              RJ Schwartzposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              No another Hillary hub on why even Democrats hate her

          2. PhoenixV profile image66
            PhoenixVposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            One of my favorite quotes from a commenter was " You have a mass of poorly educated people who are not fit to vote. "{sic ... according to them.

            Perhaps non liberals and Christians should take the same path as the poets and fiction writers.

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              Hxprofposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              Yeah, I dug that comment  A LOT! Fact is, the vast majority of Americans are indeed "poorly educated people who are not fit to vote" because we don't see the WISE ways of Democratic Socialism, and we support capitalism despite the fact that it's fatally flawed.  Well, capitalism itself isn't flawed, but greed has hijacked capitalism, and that greed won't simply dissolve by overthrowing capitalism.  Democratic Socialism itself is flawed because it purports to solve problems that it can't possibly solve.

              1. RJ Schwartz profile image84
                RJ Schwartzposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Democratic Socialism doesn't exist - its a made up term to camouflage socialism.

                1. psycheskinner profile image77
                  psycheskinnerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Yep, as experienced by terrible places like Denmark and New Zealand.

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                  Hxprofposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Always wondered about the democratic part.  I guess stealing from those who earned the money in order to create a "more equitable society" is justified if we call it democratic?

          3. Oztinato profile image73
            Oztinatoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Sorry to break this too you but all HP moderators are atheists. The fair minded good type of atheist not the obsessive hate filled type. No names mentioned of course.
            "Hate speech is not free speech".......Einstein

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              roobposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              So none of them believe in God?

              1. paradigmsearch profile image60
                paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Of course they do, His name is Google.

                Sorry, couldn't pass that one up. big_smile

              2. Oztinato profile image73
                Oztinatoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Check out their profiles: not one commits to any religion. Just decent atheists doing their job and taking out the trashy athiests on HP. No names of course!

          4. Jodah profile image88
            Jodahposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I can't wait to read it RJ

            1. PhoenixV profile image66
              PhoenixVposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              What do you think about that Jodah?

              1. Jodah profile image88
                Jodahposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                What do I think about what, PhoenixV?

                1. PhoenixV profile image66
                  PhoenixVposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  About what happened to Rj

                  1. Jodah profile image88
                    Jodahposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    I haven't read the hub but it sounds like a tough and unfair call. Some people seem to have the power to have others comments or hubs removed with just one complaint, others can complain until they are blue in the face and be ignored. It doesn't seem a fair playing field. We are all entitled to our opinion even if we don't agree.

                    1. PhoenixV profile image66
                      PhoenixVposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                      You mean like someone comes along with a broom and dustpan and cleans up for some, while others get a club? Kind of like that?

                    2. PhoenixV profile image66
                      PhoenixVposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                      You can search RJ's activity and see the hub title and then websearch the title or link I guess and view it cached.

          5. PhoenixV profile image66
            PhoenixVposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Interesting.

      3. PhoenixV profile image66
        PhoenixVposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Is this a copy and past verbatim?

    5. Dolores Monet profile image91
      Dolores Monetposted 8 years ago

      I am sick to death of HP's landing page that is often just a long list of atheists and Christians insulting one another. It makes it look like the whole site is nothing but bickering about God. The Q & A section is a waste of time and serves no purpose but to make HP look like a bunch of nuts.

      1. Oztinato profile image73
        Oztinatoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        What's HP landing page?
        If you don't list religion as one of your interests you won't get religious hubs.
        Religion is a vitally important topic and it urgently needs to be defended from negative misinformation published by obsessed cliques.

        1. PhoenixV profile image66
          PhoenixVposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          +2

          1. Sherry Hewins profile image87
            Sherry Hewinsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Every member of HP sees the "Hot" questions on the landing page, regardless of what topics they follow. The landing page is what you will see if you click HubPages in the header at the top left of your screen.

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              roobposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              Thats what I thought

            2. Oztinato profile image73
              Oztinatoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              You mean the "home page" right?

        2. PhoenixV profile image66
          PhoenixVposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          +1

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          roobposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          True I was guilty of that but had to stop just too much fighting. I just made a q&a asking the same question you just posed Dolores.

        4. KarenHC profile image75
          KarenHCposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I agree whole-heartedly!  Luckily the landing page for people not signed into Hubpages looks more professional and civilized, with a link to a few representative good quality hubs. 

          It's just when we're signed in and go to the landing page we are shown the links to the incredibly distasteful Q & A topics that are currently "popular".

          1. Dolores Monet profile image91
            Dolores Monetposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I realize that. But if a person decides to join HP then finds all this religious stuff, they may think that the site has a religious bent. Not that I am against religion or religious discussion but I find the continuous bickering distasteful. People can become, as we see in the above discussion, quite nasty. And nasty is not attractive to most people.

            1. KarenHC profile image75
              KarenHCposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              I do agree -- "nasty is not attractive to most people".   And the ugly bickering has really changed my perception about some of the people on this site.   I'd be worried about the tone of the site in general if I were new here.

            2. PhoenixV profile image66
              PhoenixVposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              You mean all the nasty anti christian stuff, right?

            3. PhoenixV profile image66
              PhoenixVposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              If some people think its just a magic book with a FSM in it, why would it be a cause for contention for them anyway Dolores?  You believe in an FSM Dolores?

      2. psycheskinner profile image77
        psycheskinnerposted 8 years ago

        And sometimes people are just called haters because they say hateful things.

        1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
          Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Like Kelly LeBrock once said "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful!"

       
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