Complaints about Hubpages-your opinion

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   NuIfEmposted 8 years ago

   Hi, everyone. I'm a newbie here,just registered today.
   I just want to ask to those who've been hubbers for quite long time, whether you have any problems here such as being unpublished?
   I also want to ask to other former Squidoo lensmaster, like me if there's a problem when your lenses were being transfered?
   As for me, I already deleted my squidoo account before the transition happen because I didn't know about it. But, i'm just curious and also worry when I read theres a lot of complaints about hubpages on ConsumerAffairs.
   Please state your opinion about the matter.

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      SimeyCposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Generally people go to 'consumer affairs' to complain - so it's a biased opinion.
      
      I've been on Hubpages 5 years or more and while I am not as active as I once was, I still come to the site daily to check stats and see what's going on. Over time Hubpages has changed a lot - some I haven't agreed with and some I have - but at the end of the day, HP is a business and they've strived to keep the site relevant and made unpopular choices that probably needed to be made.
      
      You will never please everyone - but HP is still a going concern and still gets traffic. If you look around you'll find there are still a lot of people who have been on here for 5 years or more - that has to tell you something about HP....

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         PegCole17posted 8 years agoin reply to this

         +1

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         Patricia Hollinsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         That's right you can't please everyone; just do the best you can do.

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         Anamika Sposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         I agree with SimeyC. I have been here for 8 years and I am grateful to HubPages for a lot of things including my Career. I am one of those few Hubbers who have crossed more than 10 million views on HubPages (18 Million at this time) and seen HubPages in all its glory. Now all I get it less than 1 lakh views a month.  HubPages is the first site I have made money with  and I have never had any problem with Payment so far. I am irked by many of the recent changes especially the unfeaturing and snipping of Amazon ads. But  as said, HubPages is Business and those behind it knows what's best for the site. They will make every possible effort to bring back the site to its previous glory. Having said that, HubPages is an authority site and still the best site to write for.  If I have to recommend anyone a writing site, it will be HubPages.

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      TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      It's interesting that you are starting off wanting to know the negative features of this site.  Why would you do that?  Don't you want to learn about what is good?
      
      What you don't get is that you have absolutely nothing to lose by writing here, and a whole lot to gain.  It costs nothing for you to use all of the tools and team expertise here, and you do have an opportunity to learn, meet great people and hone your craft as a writer.
      
      Personally, I have always considered it the same as getting a free education.
      
      Perfect it's not, but good it is.

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         tlcsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Here here!

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         Kylyssaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Well, if a person doesn't want to waste time writing for a site other writers have had legitimate and frequent bad experiences with, it would be good to know about it ahead of time. Look how useful this thread has been! The worst thing anybody came up with was their own misunderstanding about how payout works. Wouldn't you find that reassuring, especially if you'd written on other sites that had burned you in the past?
         
         If you have no experience with lesser sites, you might not understand why people would care to avoid falling prey to another Bubblews, Squidoo, or other such site that doesn't practice ethical behavior towards its users. Once a person has such an experience, he or she learns to check sites out before investing effort. You claim a person has nothing to lose writing on HubPages, but is that true of all sites? And how is a writer to know HubPages isn't like those other sites unless he or she asks?
         
         There are downsides to choosing to write for an unethical website and it's smart to know what kind of site you are getting into before you've invested too much into it.
         
         I know you feel about HubPages, but it is run by mortals, not Gods. It's still the best place to write just about anything one doesn't write enough volume of to make one's own substantial site. These particular human beings behave ethically as online business owners and managers, which is somewhat of a rarity. They still get things wrong sometimes and still don't seem to understand what motivates writers, but they accept feedback and make changes when they see how writer inconvenience will affect the site negatively. They even changed the communications so a snip edit email doesn't read like it's a penalty for trying to get away with something unethical anymore!
         
         Unlike any other content farm I've used, HubPages communications have improved over time to become more professional and more appropriate. Unlike any other content farms I've used, they seem to understand that the writers produce the content they are selling ads on.
         
         To the original poster, HubPages is the last good remaining content farm and the only successful one I've ever encountered that is run ethically.

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            TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Well, all righty then!  Good points you make here, but, personally, I prefer to learn the positives.  If there are negatives on any site, you learn them soon enough, I think.

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               psycheskinnerposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               I prefer to learn both, but accurately.  Then if a site has downsides that make it not worth using, I don't have to waste my time there.

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                  ddsurfscaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  I have been publishing here for 61/2 yrs and have seen a lot of changes.  Here is my take on it, and may I add at this point, that I am not in it for the money(good thing for me) but for the pure experience of writing and having others share their opinions and views.  I wanted to see how many people were interested in what I had to say, and see how many fans and followers I could gather.
                  Now, as far as payment, I had, and still have no real idea on how advent, adcents, or trafficing views work, and although I have almost 200 hubs published here, still make no more than pennies a day.  I am not expecting to make money here, I am here to see if I am good enough to be a real published author, and will I be able to spit out some books, hardcover with pages.  I am working on kids books at the moment and we have yet to see.
                  So, I think that it all depends on what you want from the site and what you expect from it.  As far as being unfeatured I must say I dont have a problem here as I have been very lax with making improvements and changes.  I have started making improvements recently and am very happy with the results.

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   paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

   HubPages remains the best game in town.

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   Annsaloposted 8 years ago

   I've read many of those complaints. The problem is quite simple. People don't want to do the work to keep their articles published!
   
   Yes, sometimes randomly an article will get unfeatured for what seems like no reason, but if an article is actually unpublished, there IS a good reason for it.
   
   Since it is your first day I suggest checking out the learning center. To me this site is nothing like squidoo. It has a higher standard.
   
   6 years, and I am still here. I like it here. I don't make big bucks or anything, but I get what I put in for the most part. I've also made some life long friends here so that is an added perk.

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   EdTecherposted 8 years ago

   Speaking as a former squid, turned hubber after the buyout, I endorse HP as a standup business organization doing its best for itself and its members to create a platform where we can publish and make money.
   
   Some people have not been happy with how HP operates.  I think that's because HP's writing guidelines have changed over time, and those people didn't like the changes.  But change is necessary for any publishing site that wants to stay relevant.  Squidoo did not change in intelligent, carefully considered ways, and that's why it's gone.
   
   HP is increasingly focused on quality content.  Google has pushed them toward even greater quality because visibility in Google means visitors, and only with visitors can we make money. 
   
   HP doesn't guarantee you'll make money.  It operates very differently than Squidoo did, and most of the writing practices that Squidoo permitted, or even encouraged, just don't fly here.
   
   As others have recommended, it's important to go through bootcamp and the learning center to get a good sense of HP's writing guidelines.  You should also read a few articles in one or more of the 14 specialty sites they've launched, because content there has been filtered to an even higher quality level.
   
   I have made a modest amount of money writing here.  I've learned a lot about writing well from HP and other hubbers, which has helped me with my writing in other web-based venues.
   
   I wish you well on your writing journey, and hope you find it profitable.

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   psycheskinnerposted 8 years ago

   HP is exactly what it says it is.  You earn according to the share they state, and they pay when payments are due.
   
   That said, content is not a lucrative market right now--I would tend to point most people to other online strategies over any content site.

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      Lee Hansenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Still waiting for April payments, so HP doesn't always pay on time.

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         Sue Adamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Payments for April earnings are paid on the 28th of May.
         
         Are you sure you reached the $50 payment threshold in March Lee? If not, your earnings will roll over to April for which you'll get paid on 28th May, if you reach the threshold by then.
         
         On 28th April we got paid for Ad Program and eBay earnings from Mar 1 to Mar 31 and Amazon earnings from Feb 1 to Feb 29.
         
         HubPages has never failed to pay on time, exactly on the 28th of each month, one month in arrears for ebay and Ad Program earnings, and 2 months in arrears for Amazon earnings.
         
         Please check your Balance History before accusing HubPages of not paying on time, as that has never happened.

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         Annsaloposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         If you weren't paid there is a reason. In 6 years they have never missed a payment for me.
         You must reach the threshold, and amazon payments are paid 2 months behind. 
         So if amazon is why you reached the threshold then that may be why.

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         sallybeaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         I have never had an issue with payment.  Payments are always one month behind if you have reached the payment threshold.

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         NateB11posted 8 years agoin reply to this

         I've never had an issue with payment either, just to confirm what others are saying. I've always been paid and paid on time.

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            NateB11posted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Here are some possibilities: :
            
            -Have not reached $50 threshold.
            -Not signed up for HP Ad Program but are using just Adsense so would have to wait on Adsense and their $100 threshold.
            -Have Amazon earnings which take longer for payment because Amazon takes longer to issue payments.
            -Too early - payment is made on the 28th of the month following the month you reached the threshold.
            -Are not using a PayPal account to get paid.
            -Do not have HP Amazon Program activated and so have to wait for Amazon to deposit money into your bank account.

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         Jodahposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         I was paid right on time as always. Been here almost seven years and though I have had a few complaints along the way HP is still a great place to write.

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         TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

         I've been here 4 years and HP has ALWAYS paid on time.  You must misunderstand something about payments.  Check the learning center or contact the team about this.  I'm guessing didn't quite meet the threshold for the month you weren't paid for, but for some reason think you did.

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   Protaskerposted 8 years ago

   I was from Squidoo and noticed that Hub pages didn't just unpublish our links, the links are all gone, disappeared. Years of affiliate work out the window! Hubs is content only, not necessarily good content but content within their rules here and they let you post "token" links here and there. I didn't know where else to go after Squidoo scuttled away but this is really not he place for my content. Any suggestions for sites more like Squidoo, where we could sell content along with products? Amazon and ebay are the only links allowed and they pay nothing. I don't even want to deal with ebay, so there's another "not" way to make money here.

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   Marisa Wrightposted 8 years ago

   In my experience, most people who complain to Consumer Affairs about HubPages don't have a leg to stand on.
   
   Most of them simply didn't read the Terms and Conditions before they joined!  Neither did I, to be honest, but  I realise that ignorance is no excuse.  The great thing with HubPages is that if you don't like it, you can leave AND TAKE ALL YOUR WORK WITH YOU  - something that isn't possible on every content site.

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      NuIfEmposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Well, as for me, I can't give up now. Because I'm not even started to publish anything. So,I'll try to write a good content hub. Thanks for the post, Marissa Wright

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   NateB11posted 8 years ago

   It's the best site of its kind as far as I'm concerned, with some earning potential and admin does all the work of maintaining the site and its features and monetization, so it's all good. I like the look of it and like strategies the team implements.

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   WryLiltposted 8 years ago

   I've been here six years and seen lots of ups and downs. That said, they always pay fairly and on time and I've never once had an issue that wasn't heard when it was a legitimate problem.
   
   Hubpages is probably one of the best revenue sharing/content farms left - many are or have slowly gone broke, due to Google slaps.
   
   You won't make thousands overnight here, but you won't on your own blog either. It's nice hobby money and a good place to get traffic or throw articles that are outside your own site's niche.

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    Kiss andTalesposted 8 years ago

    I thought about this question and the answer is there is good and bad in everthing even myself. There is no one perfect in any situation. Just like in any relationship you will never always have things your way and that applies to others as well. You can take good experiences here and and appreciate the ones who upbuild you encourage and sometimes make you laugh.
    Then you can be a winer and complainer and lose your focus of your purpose to write and encourage others.
    It depends what you do with your time here on HP. Meet people , accept they are born and bread different then yourself. You can also learn from negative people as well how not to be what they are be who you are and stand by it when you know you speak truth.
    Hope something I mention will help you
    May you find success here and may you have good experiences.

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    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    Looks to me like things are turning around around here.

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       psycheskinnerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       In terms of earnings, not that I have seen

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    JJ McHaleposted 8 years ago

    Just joined myself & decided to get a feel of what goes on here.  It's good to see that writers help one another and offer advice.  Many different opinions, always a good sign for variety.
    Wish me luck!!

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    ninaialcantaraposted 7 years ago

    great to know that there are more good comments about HP. I'm a newbie myself and I'm excited to know more about HP.

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    tlcsposted 7 years ago

    HP is a great site to write on. If your hubs aren't being published look at it in a positive way. You want your hubs to be read, if they are published you know the quality is good. Happy hubbing!

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    Arthur Kyleposted 7 years ago

    Its nice to know there are others out there and in the states as well getting rinsed!

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