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Is there a way for HubPages to Force the Thieves to Link back to Us?

  1. sallybea profile image98
    sallybeaposted 22 months ago

    Would it be  possible for HubPages to force Thieves to Link back to us to help Increase our Traffic and SEO?  If we can't beat them, perhaps we should join them!
    It stands to reason that if we are losing views and money, then so are HubPages. Even the niche sites are now being stolen.  I have already filed 2 DMCA's for the niche sites and this could be the tip of the iceberg!
    We really could do with a little more help in this area HubPages. Please!

    1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image98
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 22 months agoin reply to this

      l suspect you will hear from the team that since what you write belongs to you,when your work is stolen, only you can take steps to fix the issue.  I doubt there would be any way to legally force a thief to give you credit when his purpose is to keep all of it for himself!

      1. sallybea profile image98
        sallybeaposted 22 months agoin reply to this

        I have read that it is in fact, possible to force the thieves to link back to your pages by inserting code.   Since we can't insert the code ourselves I think it would be nice if Hubpages learned how to do this.  It seems that the whole site has once again been copied and I am now once again in the process of filing 13 more DMCA's today.which include all our hubs on the niche sites.  Please see my other thread.   It is growing more and more problematical as the original URLS used on our hubs don't match the titles on our hubs or the ones which we are filing DMCA's for.  It is becoming difficult and a full-time occupation,  Traffic is declining along with it.  I am seriously wondering if it is worth writing anything here anymore.

        1. Barbara Kay profile image91
          Barbara Kayposted 22 months agoin reply to this

          Someone suggested a few years ago to add a link within the text to one of your pages about the same subject. At least you are getting a little something from it. Whether Hubpages allows it now is another question.

        2. SheilaMilne profile image94
          SheilaMilneposted 22 months agoin reply to this

          It's definitely possible to include a link back in copy-pasted text.  For example Brainy Quotes does just that.

          Whether it works for scraped articles, I don't know.

    2. EricDockett profile image98
      EricDockettposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      This wouldn't really help anything nor is it something I'd want to see. A crummy spam website that copies your content would only provide a crummy link to your page. It wouldn't help with SEO or traffic, and may even harm it. It does provide some means of verification that you are the original author, but as Hubs are retaining their original dates when they move to niche sites that shouldn't be an issue anyway.

      Dealing with thieves is a never-ending game of Whack-a-Mole. Unfortunately, there is little that can be done to stop it except to file DMCAs when you see fit.

      If it is realistic, I've often though it wouldn't be a bad idea for HP to disable copy by right-click. Instead, readers would get a copyright notice. That still wouldn't stop scrapers and determined thieves, but it would give kids and casual copy-pasters something to think about. I think a lot of them don't even realize what they are doing is wrong.

    3. kenneth avery profile image84
      kenneth averyposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      @ sallybea,
      Last night I ventured to the "toknowthings" and replaced DOT with "." and my McAfee Anti-Virus software sternly warned me to NOT enter this website as there was a danger of my computer being infected.
      So now what?

      1. Marisa Wright profile image98
        Marisa Wrightposted 22 months agoin reply to this

        Excellent, if that is happening then it's quite likely that the spammer is getting no traffic and is more likely to give up.

  2. revolutionbjj profile image95
    revolutionbjjposted 22 months ago

    Have DCMAs had any effect?  I've tried to follow the process in the past, but it has been frustrating and unsatisfactory.

    1. Marisa Wright profile image98
      Marisa Wrightposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      DMCA's do work. 

      The trick is that if it's obvious the site is a thief (rather than making an honest mistake), then there's no point contacting the website owner.

      Instead, look up Whois to find out who their host is.  Then find the right address to send an "abuse" claim to (e.g. if it's Hostgator, you'd Google "Hostgator report abuse") and report the website to the hosting company.

      In this case the host is GoDaddy. 

      https://uk.godaddy.com/agreements/showd … etid=en-US

      https://supportcenter.godaddy.com/Infri … Index?isc=

      The more people who complete that form for their stolen work, the more chance there is that GoDaddy will close down the site.

      1. revolutionbjj profile image95
        revolutionbjjposted 22 months agoin reply to this

        Thanks, Marisa!  I have had a few of mine just straight up yanked over the years, and this is very helpful.

        1. Marisa Wright profile image98
          Marisa Wrightposted 22 months agoin reply to this

          It looks as though the website owner is a serial offender - Hubbers have managed to get his first host to close him down, but he's moved to a new host.  Even if we get GoDaddy to close him down, he may just move again.

          The most effective way to stop him is to get him banned from Adsense. 

          https://support.google.com/adsense/cont … ion_report

          1. Sue Adams profile image95
            Sue Adamsposted 22 months agoin reply to this

            According to
            http://hubpages.com/community/forum/136 … ost2818803

            Margaret Schindel heard back from GoDaddy. It appears that Mochahost.com (not GoDaddy) is the web hosting provider for this site.
            Many of us have filed DMCA notices with (abuseatmochahostdotcom), and the site is now GONE! It has been suspended.

            Check it out:

            So yes, filing DMCA reports en masse definitely helps.

  3. viryabo profile image86
    viryaboposted 22 months ago

    I find it so tedious identifying the offenders or going through their hosts to make them desist.
    Why should I waste precious time I don't have?

    What I do is contact Google Adsense if they have Adsense ads.

    I've gotten prompt responses this way. Works like magic!

  4. FitnezzJim profile image83
    FitnezzJimposted 22 months ago

    Which takes more effort?  Prevention or Cure?   Does the effort to stop internet theft take up so much time and effort that we can't afford it, or give up in frustration?