How Much Hubbers Should Be Earning.

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   jobsmartposted 8 years ago

   Should hubbers be clicking ads on hubs they are following and expect the same from other hubber that follow them?

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      Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Clicking on ads as you suggest is against the HubPages Terms of Service, so do not do it.

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         Camille Harrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         From our FAQ:
         
         "Don't ever have friends or family members click on your ads and don't ever click on your own ads or those of people you know. This will quickly get you banned from Google's AdSense and it's very difficult to be reinstated."

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            eugbugposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            It's very easy to inadvertently tap on an ad on a mobile device when scrolling, especially if the ad stretches down the area of the screen and a scroll attempt ends up as a tap.
            Is there any way in code, when logged in, tapping on our own ads could be disabled?

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               jobsmartposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               I completely agree....does adsence do this intentionally....

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                  Marisa Wrightposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  If you click on an ad occasionally, no one is going to penalise you. You will be penalised ONLY if Adsense notices you're doing it systematically, or if you appear to be colluding with other people to click each other's ads.

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            jobsmartposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Google adsense is pushing hubbers to click on their own ads... Adsense cannot make such rules....Why should they get the bigger bite and not share it down equally....I propose a total review of the ad policies

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               DrMark1961posted 8 years agoin reply to this

               Do you have any sort of documentation for that statement that "Google adsense is pushing hubbers to click on their own ads"?

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                  jobsmartposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  We don't really need documentation...and for the racord its not just adsense...ad firms in general earn tones of money everyday for the hard work publishers do everyday...all am saying is that they review their payment methods to be more reasonable....ptc is not anywhere close to a solution...And for the record...am not encouraging hubbers to become lazy for earning more from their work...its simply what all publishers deserve after a lot of work...

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                     DrMark1961posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     When you make statements like "Google adsense is pushing hubbers to click on their own ads" you do need some sort of documentation. If I said "The hubber jobsmart supports payments from google of half what is currently paid" I would need some sort of documentation. If I could not provide it, the statement would not be based in fact.

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                        jobsmartposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                        Facts dont need proof.... Proof that all publishers experience....you really dont need any more evidence if you experience the same .... the reality that you dont get an equal pay for your hard work....I strongly believe that google is against slavery....not that am saying we are slaves....but they make billions of dollars from our hard work....dont we deserve atleast a fair if not equal pay?

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                           makingamarkposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                           Fact of Life: when you create the industry you get to make the rules.
                           
                           If you want to play by the rules you get rewarded
                           
                           If you don't comply with the rules
                           * (voluntary) you need to find somewhere else to write
                           * (mandatory) you will be kicked off the pitch
                           
                           You can disagree all you like - it doesn't change the rules.

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                              sallybeaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                              ++++

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                              jobsmartposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                              The industry depends on the publishers for the billions they make.....no publishers no ads...no money... ad firms should have a regulatory watchdog that ensures equal distribution downwards....

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                                 makingamarkposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                 Not required. There are never going to be "no publishers"!
                                 
                                 There are far too many people creating content for this to be any sort of an issue for them. It's of no relevance to their business.

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                              jobsmartposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                              At least we can talk about the rules....its better than just keeping quiet and being taken advantage of...

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                                 Chriswillman90posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                 I'm not sure what you mean by being taken advantage of. Advertisers will only pay so much when there's millions if not billions of articles published.
                                 
                                 I'm glad the Hub pages Ad program exists otherwise very few would be making much on here. Even with the program, the majority of writers don't make monthly payout because the competition is so intense nowadays.

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                           Marisa Wrightposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                           You don't like the fact that writers earn peanuts from advertising - go get another job. 
                           
                           I used to write on HubPages a lot - when the earnings rates were higher.  I only write here for fun now, and the earnings are a bonus. If you want to earn a good income from your writing, do your research and go where you can earn a better income.

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      sallybeaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You risk losing your Adsense Account if you click on your own Ads.  Definitely not worth it.

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         jobsmartposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Why does adsense then make it hard for hubbers to earn....I think they should completely review their ad payment program...

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      theraggededgeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Please tell us you haven't been doing that. HubPages itself may get penalised, and you are likely to lose your Adsense account.

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      jobsmartposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      It is not my intention...if I was ever Miscouted....that I would want to earn illegally from google adsense or any other ad program out there....all am saying is that ad programs should start to consider paying publishers seriously and make publishing a serious job....they earn billions and pay us peanuts.....

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      earnerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Absolutely and totally and never: NO.
      
      NEVER do that.  You'll get your account banned, your Adsense banned - and the person you clicked on will have any income reversed.

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         jobsmartposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         I completely agree....it wouldnt be fair even to the advertisers ..   my only concern is their payment option....

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   Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years ago

   +1

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   Ashish Dadgaaposted 8 years ago

   Dear jobsmart,
   
   It is against the Google AdSense & Hubpages policy.
   
   If you are a new to AdSense then kindly read following policies:
   
   AdSense policies: a beginner's guide
   https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/23921?hl=en
   
   AdSense program policies
   https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/48182?hl=en
   
   Behavioral policies
   https://support.google.com/admob/answer/2753860?hl=en
   
   I hope it works for you
   
   Have a beautiful day.
   
   Good Luck
   Ashish

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      jobsmartposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      My proposal only seems fair compared to the choices we are forced to accept...

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   FatFreddysCatposted 8 years ago

   Screw Google. I've been here five years and I gave up watching my AdSense earnings a looooong time ago. Glaciers move faster than they do.
   
   Since I joined the HubPages Ads Program in early '14 I've managed to squeak some pizza & beer money out of my writing here several times a year. Meanwhile, over at Google... *crickets*
   
   If I ever reach AdSense's fabled $100 payout threshold and actually get a payment, I'll take it as a gift from a gracious nowhere.

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      wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      If you're running HP ads it's not surprising that adsense isn't paying much.  Although I make the HPs payout each month, I don't get one from adsense even once a year.

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         FatFreddysCatposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         I was on straight AdSense and nothin' but AdSense for the first two years I was here ... and I was still getting nowhere.
         If HP hadn't started up their own Ad Program I would've given up on this site ages ago!

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            Rochelle Frankposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Me, too. At least I would have given up on the money-- might have stayed just for the interaction. I'm surprised at how much I am earning-- especially in comparison to the effort (or lack of) I have put in lately.

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   mchllhwgtposted 8 years ago

   Am I correct in thinking that I can't run the HP ad programme until I have Adsense though? Rochelle your words spur this newbie on, especially as Im working hardvon my hubs at the moment. I don't yet know if I am good enough but enjoy focusing on my writing. I suppose only time will tell.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yes you are correct

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      jobsmartposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Even newbies know how to count money...and they know when they work hard they deserve their fair share at the end of the day...

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   FatFreddysCatposted 8 years ago

   Yup. Think of Adsense as your ticket into the game. You can't have one without the other.
   
   
   
   Somehow I doubt HubPages is making "billions." Haha.

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      jobsmartposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      True... hubpages have been paying their equal share ...just not adsence....

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   Asif Muhammadposted 8 years ago

   Hi , I would like to know how can i earn from Hubpages

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      theraggededgeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Write lots of well written, popular articles. You'll need to write 10 featured hubs and then apply for an Adsense account so that you can join the HubPages earnings program. The more you write and the more external visitors your hubs attract, the more you can earn.
      
      Study here: http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/contents
      
      Good luck.

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      jobsmartposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Just make sure you sacrifice alot....since adsense pays peanuts

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         Marisa Wrightposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         ....which is why you switch on the HP Earnings Program instead.  It pays a lot better.

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            jobsmartposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            +++

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               Marisa Wrightposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               If you know that, why are you moaning about Adsense?
               
               If you've go the Earnings Program switched on, you will earn little or nothing from Adsense.  That's not because their rates of pay are low - it's because with the Earnings program, each Hub will show only ONE Adsense ad, and it's right at the bottom of the Hub where practically no one will ever see it.

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                  jobsmartposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Do you work for adsense or something....you seem to defend them alot...

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