Articles lined in the editing queue

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   SakinaNasir53posted 7 years ago

   Hello everyone!
   
   I have been submitting my articles for niche sites and I have been getting emails that my hub has quality but isn't upto the standards yet. They give me two options and ask me to either wait for them to edit it (mentioning that this will take time as the editing queue is long) or to edit it myself. If I choose the second option and resubmit it, it might get rejected if they don't like it.
   
   I am feeling just so sad with these emails and I wish they would point out what they find missing in my hubs. This has happened for four of my hubs out of which only one has been edited by the team and sent to PetHelpful. I am still waiting for the other three of my hubs to be edited by the team. What do you suggest I should do? Should I wait or edit the hubs myself? All help will be appreciated. Thank you!

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      Sherry Hewinsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      If you need advice with the editing you can post them in the forum as "I need feedback on my hub." I'm sure plenty of people would be glad to advise you.

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         SakinaNasir53posted 7 years agoin reply to this

         @Sherry Hewins
         
         Thank you so much for your advice. I will post a forum asking for help for one of my hubs now.

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   Glenn Stokposted 7 years ago

   They are very backed up now because they are editing many of the hubs that were originally moved to HealDove since a lot of quality issues were missed with those previously.
   
   I suggest you do the editing yourself because getting it done sooner will be advantageous for you monetarily. You just need to do it right by following Google's Quality Guidlines. In case you haven't been following the other thread about that, here is where you can find the guidelines:
   
   https://static.googleusercontent.com/me … elines.pdf

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      SakinaNasir53posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Oh! Thank you Glen for advising me with this and for sharing this link. I will go through it and hopefully edit the hubs myself.

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         Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         The Google guidelines are exhaustive and exhausting, and personally I think you can tie yourself in knots trying to understand and interpret them.  I would follow Sherry's advice, and post them on the forum for advice.  It's often the best way to spot what's missing.

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      Jan Saintsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Thought they were moving only high quality hubs to niche sites. How did sub-standard hubs find their way on HealDove?
      
      And how many hubs are on this site? I think they should be done with checking them by now. It's exactly a month since it was hit by Fred!

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         Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         HubPages hasn't commented, but we know that the niche sites were originally created by moving the top 20% of Hubs from HubPages.  Those Hubs were selected because they were getting very high Google traffic, so it was obvious Google already loved those Hubs exactly as they were, and therefore there was less need for tweaking.

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            Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I think the problem is that Google changed their algorithm, possibly with Fred. Back at that time you refer to, they went by other stats such as view duration – implying that they are actually reading and not clicking away. Bounces would lower ranking. Then later Google possibly decided to put more weight on bad grammar and spelling. Fred definitely is a different algorithm, as our traffic drop seemed to coincide with it.
            
            What do you think Marisa? Does that make sense?

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               Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               I'm interested that you mention view duration. I don't remember any mention of that as a criterium, only volume of traffic.  However, that's irrelevant now.  Google loved those Hubs then, and clearly they don't now.  And that's because they have updated the algorithm.

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                  lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  View duration is a ranking factor and that's tested by many SEO guys. I tested it out myself on a few sites and my HP articles with larger average times ranked better. Same with pages on my website.
                  
                  BUT the view duration can only be counted if the person spends time on your page and then hits the back button to go back to google. And probably if they go to another page and spend just a few seconds before hitting back the algorithm sees this as a weak sign (for the other website) and thus boosts your site up eventually, if that makes sense.

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                     Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     I know what view duration is, I just don't remember HubPages staff mentioning it as being a factor in their choice of Hubs to move.  They talked about traffic, period.

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                        lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        Ah I thought you said you didn't know view duration was a ranking factor. Yes HP only looked at traffic.

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                           Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           I realise I misread what Glenn was saying.

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                              Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              When I talked about view duration I was referring to Google, not HubPages. I guess I wasn't clear. Due to the fact that Google ranked higher because of a good view duration, Google placed it higher in the SERPs and more people saw it and visited the page. THEN since the traffic was good, HubPages considered it a good quality to be moved to niche sites. That's what I meant.
                              
                              Now, possibly due to Fred, Google is putting more weight on other things—such as poor spelling and grammar.

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                                 Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                 Yes, I realised after Lobobrandon posted.    I'd have thought there was no "possibly" about it - Fred is an update and it has changed something about how Google judges web pages.

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         Jean Bakulaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         I don't think they were sub-standard. But since laymen and women are giving health advice, they want to be sure they are professional and that the advice won't hurt anyone.

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         Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         When they first started moving hubs to HealDove they didn't have the editors on board yet. They were hiring them and training them as time went on. I think that was the problem. I know for fact that the first hubs of mine they moved were never edited. No snipping. No changes. They just accepted them as is. So I can only assume this was done across the site.
         
         As I read other hubs, I found some that had terrible spelling and grammar errors. They were from top rubbers too. So I guess they trusted them for that reason without checking.
         
         Anyone can make typos. You should see my mistakes, but I catch most of them with constant proof reading. I read over my hubs three or four times before publishing. I guess many don't do that and typos get in.

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   lobobrandonposted 7 years ago

   Yes, I would do as Sherry advised. Getting your hub to the standards as the Google quality requirements is definitely something you should do, but in my opinion a stellar hub covers the requirements.

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      SakinaNasir53posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you so much Lobobrandon for your advice. My hubs are always made in the stellar mode. But, I'm not able to understand the missing quality. It would really be helpful if the team could point it out to us.

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         Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         It all is pointed out. No need for the team to repeat it. It's all in Google's Quality Guidelines that I gave you previously. Just take the time to read through it. We all did. It's priceless.

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            SakinaNasir53posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you Glen! I'll go through it definitely.

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   Jason mackenzieposted 7 years ago

   They also have a rule saying you need to have minimum 5 hubs in order to get them featured. So may be if you added one more to the list, it could help with the process.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      No Jason, that's not relevant - that's only for people who are brand new to HubPages.

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         SakinaNasir53posted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Thank you Marisa.

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      SakinaNasir53posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Jason!
      
      I have written 12 hubs till now. Thank you for sharing your opinions.

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